ColdFrixion Writer

I appreciate the reply. Actually, I found it. It was under Environment Editor> Sky Presets> New Preset> Lighting (tab)> Scene Gamma.

I can't seem to find an answer via forum search or on the web, hence my question -- where are the gamma settings in the latest SL viewer? I haven't bothered to alter gamma since version 1.23, however I can't seem to locate the setting and I thought it was in the environment editor.

So long as displaying both (user and display name) are the default behavior, I'm not necessarily concerned about screen clutter. In my opinion, what's important is that the user is conscious of disabling user names, should they choose to do so. Whats important to me is the knowledge that not everyone will be conscious of that. There will always be new or naive users, but considering both names are listed as the default behavior I'm of the opinion it's a no-brainer. I would rather see the situation avoided and the benefits still achieved by simply getting rid of the limited batch of last names and allowing users to change their name one time (or perhaps periodically for a small fee). I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that. In fact, it would be ideal. However, I don't really see that happening anytime soon. That said, I'm not hardcore about the impersonation factor of display names, assuming both the user and display name are apparent at the outset.

So long as displaying both (user and display name) are the default behavior, I'm not necessarily concerned about screen clutter. In my opinion, what's important is that the user is conscious of disabling user names, should they choose to do so. Whats important to me is the knowledge that not everyone will be conscious of that. There will always be new or naive users, but considering both names are listed as the default behavior I'm of the opinion it's a no-brainer.

CF, I guess you're just not grasping the point. Consider this - You have never seen a single instance of somebody impersonating a Linden with group names. Fine and dandy. I'm not convinced that your experience is a valid statistical sampling, but let's assume for the moment that there have been no instances on record of this happening. Why then, would the Lindens feel it necessary NOW to ban the use of their name as a display name? And why in the world would you object to letting residents switch off the capability to use their name as a display name? I don't know but if they were that concerned about people impersonating them why have they allowed the use of the Linden name in group titles for so long? To me, it's a non-issue either way but that's me. For that matter, you could use a titler. Point being, even if you could keep someone from using your moniker as a Display Name, what's to stop them from impersonating you using a group title? In my experience I've never seen group titles used for identity abuse, hence what reason would I have to believe it would be an issue with Display Names? Further, it's hard to abuse identities when yours is easily apparent to anyone that has user names enabled. Considering no one knows whether you have unique user names enabled or not, users attempting to impersonate would be taking a gamble and they'd look pretty stupid if the person they were trying to fool could easily see they weren't who they're trying to represent themselves as. That probably wouldn't stop some people but it's a strong deterrent, in my opinion. The person would run a fairly heavy risk of being easily exposed and banned from the sim to boot. Group tags are different because they do not replace usernames in tags, chat and IMs, regardless of individual preferences set by others. So you might put Adam Spark as your group tag, but ColdFrixion Writer would appear underneath. Yes, just as unique user names appear underneath user display names. If a user keeps it set as a preference to display usernames, and can put up with the extra screen clutter displaying all 3 causes. So long as displaying both (user and display name) are the default behavior, I'm not necessarily concerned about screen clutter. In my opinion, what's important is that the user is conscious of disabling user names, should they choose to do so.

CF, I guess you're just not grasping the point. Consider this - You have never seen a single instance of somebody impersonating a Linden with group names. Fine and dandy. I'm not convinced that your experience is a valid statistical sampling, but let's assume for the moment that there have been no instances on record of this happening. Why then, would the Lindens feel it necessary NOW to ban the use of their name as a display name? And why in the world would you object to letting residents switch off the capability to use their name as a display name? I don't know but if they were that concerned about people impersonating them why have they allowed the use of the Linden name in group titles for so long? To me, it's a non-issue either way but that's me. For that matter, you could use a titler. Point being, even if you could keep someone from using your moniker as a Display Name, what's to stop them from impersonating you using a group title? In my experience I've never seen group titles used for identity abuse, hence what reason would I have to believe it would be an issue with Display Names? Further, it's hard to abuse identities when yours is easily apparent to anyone that has user names enabled. Considering no one knows whether you have unique user names enabled or not, users attempting to impersonate would be taking a gamble and they'd look pretty stupid if the person they were trying to fool could easily see they weren't who they're trying to represent themselves as. That probably wouldn't stop some people but it's a strong deterrent, in my opinion. The person would run a fairly heavy risk of being easily exposed and banned from the sim to boot. Group tags are different because they do not replace usernames in tags, chat and IMs, regardless of individual preferences set by others. So you might put Adam Spark as your group tag, but ColdFrixion Writer would appear underneath. Yes, just as unique user names appear underneath user display names, unless disabled as the default behavior.

There definitely needs to be a way to show the users name in your friends list, if nothing else so you can keep track of who's who from one week to the next. A toggle that allows the user to see one or the other, or perhaps both would be very useful.

LMAO , Seriously?, you're going to try and say that you are not still comparing Group Tags/Titlers to Display names? I read and comprehended your post very clearly the first time. Yes it was an issue before but as I stated it was easily discernable to differentiate avatars/Avatar names. Point still stands if there's no risk/danger of identity theft/impersonation/fraud with the new display names system, why have the Lindens protected the use of "Linden"? As you have said they didn't protect it with group tags Thank you , goodnight. What we have here is a logical fallacy called irrelevant thesis. It's where an individual attempts to refute anothers argument, advancing a conclusion that's different from the one being made. Again, you did not peruse my post carefully and that's not meant as an ad hominem. Ok, let's break it down. What I was not stating: In my last post, I was not saying that a person might confuse a group tag for anothers identity. If that's what you read then you did not read it carefully. I was making the point that, as of the present, a user can impersonate other GROUP members by creating and wearing a GROUP tag that's exactly the same as GROUP tags worn by members of any other GROUP. Now you tell me, did I mention anywhere in the above paragraph anything about confusing someone group tag for someone name identity? Example; Let's say I run a store called FAMOUS SECOND LIFE STORE. Let's also say I've created a group for my store and given myself the group title "FAMOUS STORE OWNER". As it currently stands, anyone else can create a bogus group and give themselves the exact same group title "FAMOUS STORE OWNER" even though the group name itself might be different. However, anyone could easily be fooled by the group tag above their head unless they actually did some investigating and discovered for themselves that the actual group name doesn't match. The point; someone can easily impersonate other members of any other GROUP by creating a bogus group and giving themselves a title that exactly matches the title of the owner or staff of some other, perhaps very respectable GROUP, thereby quite easily impersonating members of any GROUP. Again, was I making the point that someone could easily confuse a users group tag for their display name? No. I was making the point that as of the moment, group titles aren't sacred. Others can use the exact same group title that anyone else uses in their group. Hence, if there hasn't been an issue with group impersonation via bogus groups, why would there be an issue with identity impersonation using display names? In fact, you have to wait a week to change your display name, whereas anyone can change their group title on the fly, at any time.

ColddFrixion , you keep mentioning the Group Title thing . Let's clear this up, the Group Title thing and any Titlers are EASILY discernable from the actual user name , whereas this new Display name feature isn't and by LL's design wishes would REPLACE the username if possible. SO PLEASE STOP comparing them, it's apples and oranges. That being said, it's still fact that the Lindens feel there could be impersonation/identity theft issues thusly they protected the Linden name , All most of us want is to have our registered usernames protected from being used as display names , which should be the policy anyway. It's also fact and evident by the way that LL is continuing forward with Display Names that they are blatently ignoring the feedback they are receiving from the majority of us SL residents. Which really doesn't maintain good customer relations. Had you perused my reply, you'd have noticed the point of the post was different from the earlier replies you allude to. Please read it carefully once more and if you're of the same opinion, I'll be glad to explain the difference.

People can change theis name and use the same name of other residents? Users can also use the same group title other residents use in their groups, hence wouldn't it be just as convenient to impersonate group and store owners or other staff? Would you say that's been an issue heretofore? The difference is you can change group titles whenever you want. You can only change Display Names once per week. To answer your question, they can't change the original name they picked when they created their account, which is your unique identifier.

Personally, I wouldn't want to use the Linden namesake anyway. For that matter, the only time I've seen the Linden name used by anybody was one of the actual staff members. I never saw anybody impersonating a Linden in any form. But that's beside my point. This is what I am trying to say: However, I've known instances of "griefing" through the use of that display name trick where the person pulling off their little joke about ruined the victim's reputation there on the spot at her job. A pretty "upright", honest and straight forward business type of person and she was victimized by somebody who thought it was funny to "post" an impersonated comment in open chat that was quite vulgar. (turns out that griefer was a friend of a former friend and the insinuated "joke" was actually a malicious attempt to ruin a public image). The only way anyone would have known it was an imposter who made the comment would have been "investigating" the profile of the person making the comment. But unfortunately, not everybody knows to do that (all jokes aside, especially newbies and anybody not yet familiar with navigating the viewer). A simple "switch" (check box or button) that would prevent impersonation by any means would be a prudent measure to ensure one's own reputation is kept intact from possible assault. I can see where the use of a "display name" would come in handy for certain role play character names that would fit the genre that they are playing. But it's not entirely beneficial and leaves it too open for misuse. Before I respond to the rest of the post, would you please tell me which display name trick you're alluding to; a group tag, titler or the new display name feature?

CF, I guess you're just not grasping the point. Consider this - You have never seen a single instance of somebody impersonating a Linden with group names. Fine and dandy. I'm not convinced that your experience is a valid statistical sampling, but let's assume for the moment that there have been no instances on record of this happening. Why then, would the Lindens feel it necessary NOW to ban the use of their name as a display name? And why in the world would you object to letting residents switch off the capability to use their name as a display name? I don't know but if they were that concerned about people impersonating them why have they allowed the use of the Linden name in group titles for so long? To me, it's a non-issue either way but that's me. For that matter, you could use a titler. Point being, even if you could keep someone from using your moniker as a Display Name, what's to stop them from impersonating you using a group title? In my experience I've never seen group titles used for identity abuse, hence what reason would I have to believe it would be an issue with Display Names? Further, it's hard to abuse identities when yours is easily apparent to anyone that has user names enabled. Considering no one knows whether you have unique user names enabled or not, users attempting to impersonate would be taking a gamble and they'd look pretty stupid if the person they were trying to fool could easily see they weren't who they're trying to represent themselves as. That probably wouldn't stop some people but it's a strong deterrent, in my opinion. The person would run a fairly heavy risk of being easily exposed and banned from the sim to boot.

I wasn't saying i wanted to be a linden. and i have seen one. here was a sever griefer problem and i about feel over at the L rep that showed up to fix it. It was A, not saying the but A, Philip Linden. and oddly that griefer vannished about 3 seconds laer and all his alts I didn't mean to imply that you, personally, wanted to impersonate a Linden. I was just saying for anyone who's wanted to try and impersonate one, the option's been available for years now and I've never really seen that title in anyone's group name heretofore. For that matter, I've never seen anyone use group titles to impersonate anyone else in general. Maybe it's just me but I don't see why that trend would change with Display Names.

Good point Ando. If the "Lindens" forbid the use of their namesake... then we should also be able to do the same as a matter of personal choice. At least, with that choice we can reasonably guard our SL identity & reputations. If you really wanted to use the Linden title all you'd have to do is create a bogus group and give yourself the title of (whatever first name) Linden. I doubt it would fool all but inexperienced users however residents have had the option to use the Linden name in group titles for years now. Have you ever seen a single instance of someone successfully impersonating a Linden this way?

If you really think dowloading a newer version of the sl viewer is not a big issue well then your so wrong i asume your running sl without changing things in debug and prefrences and your screem position with the layout like building. It cost me about 30min everytime i change to a update and i dont whant to update every month i deleted library junk out of my inventory good for 1400+ items all crap and useless junk this is just a example why i delete that? well it cost more time to load the inventory! I deleted classic clouds because they are lagy as hell and footprint shadow etc etc etc....... so yes i have a problem with the useless updates sl is ffooling us with indeed so what is that your problem is that something you may judge me about you f****tard? If you're opposed to frequent updates (I'm not saying you are) is there a reason you have to download and install the latest beta version? I could understand the opposition to frequent updates if updating was required.