Ellyn Elan

Don't think the cat was referring to your forum photo, sweetie. That wouldn't make sense.

Straight out of SL, no editing and it shows but I am too lazy and full of Christmas food to mess with it. The hair has an appropriateness shelf life, so it was now or never. I checked out a few sims on the Destination Guide. Winterland is wonderful, my favorite of the places I visited. Hanging with the help. Not a vanity shot but a quick snap of a pretty sim. (Winterland) This is NOT using the sim's settings. Old Europe sim, below. I lost my coat. I love this DNR dress, it is so versatile and the texture is beautiful, but dang it, the skirt layer always makes butts look huge even though my shape was altered for a pencil skirt AND the skirt layer. Old Europe. Liberties of modification taken with Tukinowaguma hair. And God Bless Everyone!

An honor to see the esteemed Antoine sharing his readings with us. Pray tell which deck are you using?

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Perrie Juran wrote: Ellyn Elan wrote: Interesting! Thanks for the post and links. I'm glad to read you got your rounded poochie bum back. Does this only work for Phoenix? And if you do the changes in Phoenix do other viewers see it? I see where it says you'll see the changes on everyone, does it work in reverse or only for those with the patch installed? My apologies if I was not clear. The text was all quoted from the note card. I have not tried this yet. But as I understand it, this should work with all viewer versions. So does this mean you don't have your rounded poochie bum back?

Sy Beck wrote: Could someone point out to me the person or persons who wake up every morning and can be bothered to rush to the feeds to see who or what is trending? What do these people do when they get there? Plan their day around whatever is trending? Go and buy anything they see in the picture? Print it out and pin it up on a bedroom wall. Believe and trust in whatever is posted there? Or, maybe they obsess about it a bit too much, let it take over their life, write and fret endlessly about it and believe it's the thin end of a conspiratorial wedge intended to take over SL. Beats me. You are somewhat illuminating your own sig line there Sy in pointing out what could be classified as much ado about nothing. /me looks a little horrified. "You mean it ISN'T a conspiratorial plot to take over SL? You mean we CAN'T trust everything posted?" It is interesting what people fret about, is it not? Luckily it isn't contagious.

Interesting! Thanks for the post and links. I'm glad to read you got your rounded poochie bum back. Does this only work for Phoenix? And if you do the changes in Phoenix do other viewers see it? I see where it says you'll see the changes on everyone, does it work in reverse or only for those with the patch installed?

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Pamela Galli wrote: /me huddles in the corner with Celestiall, wondering what is going on here. /me brings some cushions, popcorn and a variety of beverages and hopes to hang out with Celestiall and Pamela. I know those pages exist but could not care less about them. They have nothing to do with my secondlife! I also don't understand why people who are interested in such things want to settle for anemic copies of the real things like FB and Twitter. Trending? You've got to be kidding?

What a strangely (poorly) written question to just toss off by the Ls. I suspect the Ls were hoping for wild gushes about how we love to play at Twilight! OMG! It is amazing! Fangs are changing my life! Or maybe they were hoping for the My Little Pony crowd if the new treacley-sweet log in screens are any indication? Is that Cinderella stepping out of an egg with flaming tiki's behind her? I can only speak for myself but will presume to speak for the group of people I know well in SL. LL, when are you going to learn what you have? The people I know are much more likely to be building things out of their own experiences and creativity, they are more likely to be explorers, musicians and artists or those who appreciate musicians and artists. The people who role play do read to get background. Or are you looking to start a new "literature" and SL marketing fiasco? I think if you do that then you should promote the Gor books above all others, make sure you get all the details right, and then feature it on your PG sites and log in pages in all of the nadu female submission and scant clothing glory of Gor.

Perrie Juran wrote: as for my sig, i do have a specific reason for it several reasons actually /me types backspacebackspacebackspacebackspace /me tries again backspacebackspacebackspacebackspace

:matte-motes-smile: To answer my own subject line question, I would say, "Um, no. What a crazy notion!" I do think they are telling of bits and pieces though. I read sig lines. Sometimes I will visit a vendor based upon their overall posts and the inclusion of their business ID in their sig sometimes the reverse is true. Some lines make me smile, some are boring, some require the cipher code book and some I argue with. There is one sig line (tease tease) that makes me want to fire off a response every time I read it. They are like mini-profiles, which I read when I'm inworld. I just changed my sig line. The new one is a fabulously long sentence, that believe it or not I had to edit down in order for it to fit, from a book I've been reading, Tristam Shandy. (And I just noticed I made a typo in the sig line. Hurry up and edit!) I love the rambling but controlled style and the sentiment is one that I identify with. My old sig line had nothing to do with me or any other specific point, I just loved the sound of it. I wish we all came with equipped with our own script writers who can come up with spontaneous remarks for us like the one Don Draper made in Mad Men, "It wasn't a lie, it was ineptitude with insufficient cover." How about you? Read them? Ignore them? Favorites? Ones that make you want to argue? How did you choose yours? Does it tell anything about you?

BothamFidor wrote: After reading your post I decided to go and ask some representatives of The Silent Majority for their opinions. This is a summary: Fidor

@ Perrie (and really @ all): Sounds about right to me, even with my limited knowledge of this whole thing. I posted my comments to the LL post.

Linden Lab wrote: The Community Tools User Group was created for input and feedback during the implementation of the Lithium community platform. Since this platform is now live, it makes sense to open the feedback up to the community as a whole. The best place for this is in the feedback forums where all residents have the opportunity to discuss and comment on topics. We will continue to collect this feedback from the forums and may conduct some beta user groups in the future. I thought people were already giving their input and feedback in this part of the forum. They have been giving feedback throughout the community platform since its inception -- at least from what I've read. I'm new here AS WELL and have taken the time to read/scan a bit of the back posts. I would hope that the good folks at LL involved in this aspect of LL would also have done that piece of work, since I assume that is also what they get paid for -- or so I would also assume. As I read this post from LL it sounds like they have not, until now, paid any attention to the comments HERE in their own forums but only to those made in the CTUG. Is this true? I would suggest making this part of the forum more readily accessible. It is not obvious to find stuck off to the side like that.

I thought that I read somewhere in the official LL info that LL would intervene if there was fraudulent merchant practices. I would think promising to deliver something and not doing it would be fraud at the very least. Am I incorrect at this notion? Is it only on Marketplace where LL will theoretically do something?

Sy Beck wrote: Ellyn Elan wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: PeterCanessa Oh wrote: I will jump through the plurals and possesives Venus hoop. I will even jump through several hoops belonging to several Venuses (honest). The unique Venus' hoops' labels will be alphabetic, ie; a, b, c, d ... Where there are several Venuses, all Venus's hoops' labels will be numeric, ie; 1, 2, 3, 4 ... Thus each hoop's label will either be alphabetlc or numeric PS: I ran out of wood and chucked the wood chuck on the fire. Anyone hungry? Shouldn't that be "Veni"? Veni vidi vici? I think if memory serves me that even in Latin it would be venus for the noun but yeah, veni for the verb. I vote for Venuses following the same rules as losses. Right then! This is getting too geeky even for me! :matte-motes-agape: If you want to be a total pedant then Venus is latin in origin so it's plural would be Veneres. I think though that we were talking about possessive plurals (the Genetive case) in which I think (guessing really) the form remains the same so Veneres would also be the possessive plural too. I am more than prepared to be shot down on that one though. Duuuuuuude!!!! I dunno about you or how it goes on that side of the Pond, but this is more than beginning to feel like one of those conversations after a few too many, ya know, like I totally think that the Latin for that would be, like, you know... Wut? Wut?!

Storm Clarence wrote: Orca Flotta wrote: I'm a ESLer so you don't have to believe me but from what I have learned the did already indicates we're talking about the past, so after a did a sentence is to be continued in present tense. So it shoud be Why did I get this??? Get it? Got it. Don't just love when ESL'ers correct other ESL'ers. There is harmony in the forum once again. Now we just need someone from Pompeii to correct our Latin!

Phil Deakins wrote: PeterCanessa Oh wrote: I will jump through the plurals and possesives Venus hoop. I will even jump through several hoops belonging to several Venuses (honest). The unique Venus' hoops' labels will be alphabetic, ie; a, b, c, d ... Where there are several Venuses, all Venus's hoops' labels will be numeric, ie; 1, 2, 3, 4 ... Thus each hoop's label will either be alphabetlc or numeric PS: I ran out of wood and chucked the wood chuck on the fire. Anyone hungry? Shouldn't that be "Veni"? Veni vidi vici? I think if memory serves me that even in Latin it would be venus for the noun but yeah, veni for the verb. I vote for Venuses following the same rules as losses. Right then! This is getting too geeky even for me! :matte-motes-agape:

Pussycat Catnap wrote: A more eloquent, or perhaps sophisticated speaker, has no need to sink into vulgarity to get a message across. Vulgarity and insult are the vehicles of an emotional loss of control over one's message. I agreed with most of your post. I think taking others into account when communicating is important if communication is truly the purpose. Communication is a sharing of information. That isn't everyone's intent on the Internet or RL. I also think there is a tendency these days to be so overly politically correct that meaningful communication is impossible, which is what Ceka was discussing. To the point that I quoted above I will say, "sometimes." I think you're right, that in most cases vulgarity and insult are not needed. However, when skillfully wielded by a person of intelligence and wit there can be nothing more potent. Some of the best quotes in the world are the witheringly disdainful insults of those with rapier wits. Churchill is one that comes to mind. :matte-motes-grin:

Celestiall Nightfire wrote: Pussycat Catnap wrote: Online, self referenced jokes can just make a person sound like a bigot to a listener who in person, might have been able to be empathic and even in the same crowd. Such a style of humor is 'best left at the door.' Pussycat, you have made a very keen observation in the above sentence. I'm going to extrapolate on that thought, as it is an important one. That online "jokes", references, and the type of humor that a poster understands...can...and very often will be misconstrued. If an online joke is worded, so that a meaning other that with which the writer intended, can be gleaned, often what will happen is that a dissenter who wishes to find an area of complaint....will pick out that "joke" and use it as an example of how the person is "bad". Then even when the poster explains their intent, the dissenter will not acknowledge the posters intent. The dissenter, can then keep trotting out the "words" that the poster wrote...and never acknowledge that the poster clarified the meaning of the words. In this manner, a war of words can be waged. By twisting the intent and meaning of another person, one can work a campaign to vilify them. Now, in Pussycat's comment above, she ends with the "best left at the door" recommendation regarding the "jokes". I *think*, part of her reason for that recommendation, is because of the very type of word manipulation that I describe. Those jokes can, and will, be used against someone...by those that dislike them. So, it's really up to the individual, if they want to take the risk of making a "joke" that could be misconstrued, and used against them. I suppose if one feels the audience is sufficiently savvy and will "get" the joke, then they are fairly safe. If not, then one takes a chance, and posts the joke or not. But, they had better be prepared for fall-out. Now, the issue is not just with the person who might make a questionable joke...but the issue is also with those that would deliberately use that joke to malign and discredit someone. This is done in politics all the time, and personally, I cringe when I see it. Particularly, if the person who wrote those words has clearly stated what the words were intended to mean. Oh, yes. This is a prime tactic of trolls both inworld and out and if you have ever been on the receiving end of it I will guarantee that it will drive you nuts. The problem is at least two-fold in that the person with the intential agenda of "misunderstanding" will keep it up and for the most part the general public doesn't pay close attention. Whoever squawks the loudest and the most often will usually win the day because it is that version that is heard. Yes, this happens in politics all the time, from all sides, and it is enough to make those of us who do pay attention start throwing things at the tv, publication, monitors, etc. while hurling invectives and reaching for chocolate and brandy! (Maybe that is just me?)

Venus Petrov wrote: Even things simply written can be misinterpreted. Years ago I wrote a piece of prose describing an effort to hang wet laundry outside on a windy day. It was interpreted by one reader as a cry for help from someone about to attempt suicide. The best we can do is communicate our intent as clearly as we are able by our choice of words. They will be interpreted via the prisims of one or one thousand and each may have a slightly different take on it. ^^this^^ I think we've all had this experience if we communicate with any frequency. I have had simply stated things wildly and widely misinterpretted, leaving me to scratch my head and wonder wtfreak. Although, LOL, I have to say your story beats the heck out of mine.

Melita Magic wrote: Yes, Pixel Dolls is going, and This Is A Fawn is gone. Dollywood is another that was around since the start but left last year. Buy it today, may not be here tomorrow. Some attrition is to be expected anywhere. Situations change. But yes, there seems to be an exodus. I know it was happening before but I first noticed it when one of my favorite stores that now I can't recall the whole, strange name that included the word Turquoise was here one day and gone the next and that was over a year ago. I wonder with the push to mesh how that is going to affect traditional designers and if we'll see an even bigger decline? Of course we should also see an influx of new mesh designers but I suspect the it will be more loss than gain. We shall see.

Conifer Dada wrote: Ellyn Elan wrote: AAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHH! I cannot believe how many posts go missing! And threads! .............. Some posts might disappear because of accidental deletion by the posters themselves, I've done that myself. The delete button is right underneath the edit button and easy to click by mistake. Thanks Conifer and yes it does happen. I'm confident that in the cases I'm referring to user error is not the case, though. :matte-motes-frown: