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  1. On 1/13/2021 at 8:33 PM, Rolig Loon said:

    My own scan object, which I have sold in MP for years, is clunky and brute force, but it works.  It's just a spherical object, essentially a drone, that hops all over the region, following a grid pattern and doing overlapping 16m scans.  It stores everything internally, cleans up duplicates, and dumps a report out at the end.  I made a second one that makes a series of vertical hops from ground level to 4000m.  I've never taken the time to make either version very sophisticated, so they don't send data to a remote server or anything.  Designing something like that is pretty simple.

    TYSM,  I'll check it out.

    As an aside, why doesnt' Area Search work better? It's not possible to find all objects within a specified range without using drones?

    There's nothing in SL that does what Conover's program did, so far as I can tell.  The usefulness of an Excel sheet that lists every object in a sim giving locations, owner, group assignment is just fantastic when moving parcles, repairing areas, finding objects, or seeing what other people have littered on the land.  

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  2. On 1/12/2021 at 1:50 PM, Monty Linden said:

    I'm going to assume you mean the desktop app is failing with that message.  One thing LSL doesn't yet provide is a fixed point where pieces of a distributed, scripted system can go to find the other pieces.  This usually means a small service on the internet where the pieces can register and search for other pieces (and do license checks, etc.).  Looking at the installation instructions, for the HUD, I'd guess that this function is associated with the 'AOS-Extreme: Object-DNS successfully updated:[200]' line in Local Chat.  If you are still getting this status, there's a good chance that part is working.  If not, the HUD needs a patch.

    If the HUD is fine, problem will be either with the service or the desktop app or both.  There are some debug modes and interesting buttons ('CM') on the app.  Look for clues there as to what the app thinks it is trying to connect to and where data may be corrupted.  Look out for truncated hostnames in particular.  If the app lacks sufficient debug capabilities, you'll need to look at environmental tools to tell you what is happening:  Wireshark, syscall tracers, etc.  Those will inform possible actions.

     

    Thank you, this makes total sense. 

  3. On 1/12/2021 at 3:38 PM, Lucia Nightfire said:

    Just an FYI, such setups can most definitely miss things as it's using sensors which have arc based ranges, meaning spherical or segments so unless there is complete overlap of all scanned areas of interest you will have blind spots. Also, there is a limit to the number of returns sensors can make so anything beyond that limit could be missed.

    It would help if we had a script function to scan a parcel with filtering options and specified object key return limit.

    Thomas did a fine job.. His sim scanner didn't miss anything at all.  I used it extensively. I've moved entire sims going down the excel sheet and moving each object either by "restore to last poition" or drag and drop then edit for the no copy ones.  

  4. On 1/12/2021 at 1:50 PM, Monty Linden said:

    I'm going to assume you mean the desktop app is failing with that message.  One thing LSL doesn't yet provide is a fixed point where pieces of a distributed, scripted system can go to find the other pieces.  This usually means a small service on the internet where the pieces can register and search for other pieces (and do license checks, etc.).  Looking at the installation instructions, for the HUD, I'd guess that this function is associated with the 'AOS-Extreme: Object-DNS successfully updated:[200]' line in Local Chat.  If you are still getting this status, there's a good chance that part is working.  If not, the HUD needs a patch.

    If the HUD is fine, problem will be either with the service or the desktop app or both.  There are some debug modes and interesting buttons ('CM') on the app.  Look for clues there as to what the app thinks it is trying to connect to and where data may be corrupted.  Look out for truncated hostnames in particular.  If the app lacks sufficient debug capabilities, you'll need to look at environmental tools to tell you what is happening:  Wireshark, syscall tracers, etc.  Those will inform possible actions.

     

    Yes it's the desktop app that fails.

     

  5. I have a question for you knowledgeable folks.  I'm a research scientist / simulation programmer so I know quite a bit about programming but I stay mostly blissfully unaware of how LSL works since I'm here to enjoy SL.. which is why I'm here to ask you experts.  

    I use a powerful tool in SL written by Thomas Conover,  it's a full sim object scanner, uses drones in SL to generate a list of objects, locations, owners, etc similar in a way to Area Search except that it finds every object in the sim.  It's this:  http://www.thomas-conover.com/gadgets/aos-extreme/

    It no longer works as of about Sept or so.  I suspect it's related to this issue because it links a PC program to the SL scripted HUD to create an Excel file with the object lists.  It now fails in the linking with the error message: "Could not find DNS entry for in world object."  

    I'm guessing that the move to the cloud disabled it from reading all this stuff. Obviously it's not your job to help me but I'm asking your learned opinions on whether this being a casualty of the move sounds likely.  Talking to the maker, Thomas, is off the table as it appears he's left SL and possibly RL too.  I can't find any similar device in SL either, and, like his security orbs, many people used this device.

    Your thoughts?  TY in advance :)

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  6. I attempted to rez an Intan couples dance ball (fully stocked, very expensive to replace) and got a message that the object failed to rez.  Normally when that happens, the object is still in my inventory.  But this time it's not, and for sure it's not on the property either as I know the prim count exactly and I even asked my landlord to look for it.  I know the exact name of the object and it's not in my inventory either.

    I cleared cache and relogged, no help there.  I logged on to the beta grid and did the same, also no luck.

    How can I get my (expensive) object back?

    Thanks!

    Knobs Slade

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