Felix Wagstaff

$150 gets you your own sim. That includes teh LL transfer fee, you are only playing me $50 for this sim. Tier runs out very soon, and I am not going to pay another month. Please send a Notecard to seanabrady Resident if you want to buy this sim. The sim is empty and ready to move right now. If you ever wanted to own your own sim this is about as cheap as it gets. I have one Full Region for sale. This is a full 15,000 prim region on a class 5 server. Details: Asking Price: $150.00 US Transfer: The asking price includes all transfer fees. Teir Date: 22nd (Tier is paid through 6/22/2012) Terms: Region must be moved and renamed SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Effington%20Hills/135/95/22 Please contact me by sending a notecard to my in world manager (seanabrady Resident) with any questions or to discuss a sale. Sean is available for more than me so best try and get with him if you can.

Ok everyone. This is it. We are approaching the deadline. I would love to see this sim stay in SL. I am going to send this back to LL in a few days if it isnt purchased. I am lowering the price to just $200. That includes the $100 transfer. More details below. I have one Full Region for sale. This is a full 15,000 prim region on a class 5 server. Details: Asking Price: $200.00 US Transfer: The asking price includes all transfer fees. Teir Date: 22nd (Tier is paid through 6/22/2012) Terms: Region must be moved and renamed SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Effington%20Hills/135/95/22 Please contact me by sending a notecard to my in world manager (seanabrady Resident) with any questions or to discuss a sale. Sean is available for more than me so best try and get with him if you can.

This sim is going back to LL this month if I cannot sell it. Don't like my price? Make me an offer. Still a good amount of paid tier on this sim and its ready for transfer to your estate today. Don't miss a chance to grab a sim without paying the 1000.00 setup fee. I am lowering my asking price by $100. All terms remain otherwise the same. Time is running out!!! I have one Full Region for sale. This is a full 15,000 prim region on a class 5 server. Details: Asking Price: $350.00 US (Negotiable) Transfer: The asking price includes all transfer fees. Teir Date: 22nd (Tier is paid through 6/22/2012) Terms: Region must be moved and renamed Please contact me by sending a notecard or my in world manager (seanabrady Resident) with any questions or to discuss a sale. Sean is available for more than me so best try and get with him if you can.

This sim is going back to LL this month if I cannot sell it. Don't like my price? Make me an offer. Still a good amount of paid tier on this sim and its ready for transfer to your estate today. Don't miss a chance to grab a sim without paying the 1000.oo setup fee. I am lowering my asking price by $100. All terms remain otherwise the same. I have one Full Region for sale. This is a full 15,000 prim region. Details: Asking Price: $450.00 US (Negotiable) Transfer: The asking price includes all transfer fees. Teir Date: 22nd (Tier is paid through 6/22/2012) Terms: Region must be moved and renamed Please contact me or my in world manager (seanabrady Resident) with any questions or to discuss a sale.

This sim is going back to LL this month if I cannot sell it. Don't like my price? Make me an offer. Still a good amount of paid tier on this sim and its ready for transfer to your estate today. Don't miss a chance to grab a sim without paying the 1000.oo setup fee. I am lowering my asking price by $100. All terms remain otherwise the same. I have one Full Region for sale. This is a full 15,000 prim region. Details: Asking Price: $450.00 US (Negotiable) Transfer: The asking price includes all transfer fees. Teir Date: 22nd (Tier is paid through 6/22/2012) Terms: Region must be moved and renamed Please contact me or my in world manager (seanabrady Resident) with any questions or to discuss a sale.

We are selling one region at 200 US dollars + transfer fee. Next tier is due on 22nd of November. Please contact Felix Wagstaff for more information inworld or on info@felixestates.com Cheers, Felix

No, but that is not really the same situation. The banning for using an anti-grief and anti-lawlessness feature is comparable to putting in your covenant that "in this region we allow disclosing private information publicly to anyone who enters. Or, in this region we allow porn and showing hacked movies - even though we have classified the region as general. You can't take away the fundamental rights given to us by the LLCS. It would be like disallowing the use of brakes in cars when driving on certain streets.

Hi Analya, Yes - there are few ways to do that in SL nowadays - especially since I used the latest Phoenix viewer and had media and voice switched off. That just made the need to report it more urgent (it has also been reported to the Phoenix devs). I disagree with you - but that's fine.My opinion is that: Linden Lab has in the Community Standards given us the right and ability to abuse report. By punishing and effectively disallowing the use of this feature; I feel that the region owner is breaking the Community Standards. Effectively helping and supporting people that grief and hack and forcing his visitors to lie. After further discussion with the said region owner I was also informed that he would take the griefer off of the ban list in a few weeks time. So effectively supporting the illegal act. Felix

If that was ever true, it most definitely isn't now. They do not have the paid staff to act to abuse reports or even support enquiries. The age banning thing - however - result in an immediate blocking (not ban) of the account until the person age verifies. This happens automatically or semi-automatically. I have seen regions go under because the region owner was too proud or had too little compassion for the people living and using his sim; to reach out and find somoene that wanted to take it over and keep it alive. I truly hope that Linden Lab does not act like that and let's SL close down. Maybe the lesson to be learned is that there is no money to be made in this, and maybe they should consider merging into the OSgrid and let us live on freely (in all senses of the word). Just a thougth...

I agree. Sad but true I won't be surprised when next time I try to login it says "Sorry we are out of business - no more money, we ate up the people that tried keeping us alive"

I think there is some sort of generic check on your name and social security code when you age verify. But you are right - you are not asked to age verify as you sign in the first times.

Hi Ariel - yes I already submitted a support request But sorry I haven't put up my opinion on this. It was merely to hear if anyone has ever been Linden banned or if it just an old rumour that you will be banned by Lindens at the drop of a hat. I agree - I would hope that LL diferentiaties and makes a personal assesment. However I am unsure if they still have the man power to that..

nope Feel free to share your thoughts in my other threat relating to being banned by a Linden: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion/Banned-from-SL-by-a-Linden/td-p/1128169. Thanks, Felix

My sentiment and experience is that Linden Lab is (unfortunately) understaffed and unable to deal with any abuse reports or even support requests. The only thing I still see "working" is reporting people for being underage. That seems to get them out of the game straight away (unless they are able to age-verify), Felix

Hi all - as a follow up to my thread about having written in your region or lands covenant/rules that you ban people that use the built-in abuse report feature on your land (see here: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion/Disallowing-Abuse-Reporting/td-p/1126105); I am asking a new question: If you consider the banning of abuse reporters to be fair, could we maybe discuss and hear from a real Linden employee how an abuse report is treated? As far as I could see on GridSurvey's website; most of the results of an abuse report is a warning issued and only in the worst cases a ban of as much as 10 days 2 weeks. I would in this discussion like to differentiate between abuse reporting for under-age reasons, as they are quickly sorted by performing an automatic age verification. I would also like to to hear a Linden's thoughts on whether steps are taken towards people that falsely abuse reports other avatars? An example could be in a competitive combat region; someone would falsely abuse report another player for being underage or even for using what he think is copybotted equipment. Maybe even abuse reporting him for using a gesture that offends him. How do you deal with that? Looking forward to your thoughts and comments and, please feel free to move/copy it to another category should it fit in better there.

As far as I know - the "copy AR to region owner" feature still doesn't work. I have tried it before, but it came up saying "feature unsupported". I think it would be nice to have that feature - simply to keep the region owner in the loop on occurrences in his region. Cheers, Felix

Thanks Peggy, I am glad to see that I am not the only one believing so! Felix

Dear Dilbert, Thank you for your comments. I agree that it can be annoying to get those messages from visitors complaining about other visitors. The case here is something else though: Is it acceptable that a region owner bans people for using the built-in Linden Labs Abuse Report system, AND that he puts it in his covenant and public rules? In my world it is not. It would be like threatening to stone a girl to death if she was raped. Sure that will prevent any rapes in your country. But it's not the way! Felix

I think you agree with me that - using ordinary words "it is lame to say you ban people that abuse report in your covenant"?

Yes - exactly - so you agree. I didn't ask for advice on how to avoid being banned. I did this to open a debate )

Dear Stella, We 100% agree. You can get banned for anything without reason. However - the case is that you should not be allowed to put down an anti-LLCS reason in your covenant or in your rules. That is a direct attack on Linden Lab, telling them that we do not give an eff about your abuse report systems and in fact we will ban anyone using this system or who uses your Linden Viewer for that matter. Abuse Reporting is a serious thing and involve a relationship between you as a legal person and Linden Labs, where you report another legal person for breaking the terms of service or - as in my case - the US federal law. Scaring people away from using this channel by threatening with repercussions should they use exercise their right to use the system - is in my humble opinion a very bad thing to do. A bit like saying "sure you can complain about the service received in our supermarket, but just know that we will NEVER let you buy milk again anywhere!". Felix

Dear Ciaran, I think you either need to read my text again. The only way the region owner YYY knew that I abuse reported the griefing/hacking resident was because I told YYY that I did so. I did that to get him to ban him immediately and not wait for Linden Lab. Linden Lab has not given me any answer so far? I am sorry that I do not know what you refer to there? Yes, you can ban anyone for anything. However, if I put in my covenant that I ban african americans on sight; do you not think that Linden Lab or even your own federal courts would be upset and call it illegal? That was an example - don't make me come up with more examples of what inappropriate and illegal things you can put in a covenant ) Cheers, Felix

I have come across a location in SL where they publicly state that you will be banned for using the abuse reporting feature. The following is an extract of a message I wrote on a form relating to this specific region. I have exchanged the region name with XXX and YYY is the region owner. Should anyone be named like this in SL my apologies goes to them! I have - the hard way - found out that by using the built-in abuse report feature to report an avatar you will get banned from XXX. This new policy of banning people that abuse reports other residents has, as I understood from a director in XXX, come about as there was a problem with "abuse reporting in anger". While I do not understand why this is a problem for XXX, I appreciate that there have probably been incidents where people have abuse reported enemies for silly things like age, pushing in the spawn, etc. Such abuse reports are of course annoying, but there is no way for the XXX region owner or staff to know that they occur since the region owner is not normally notified of an abuse report (unfortunately, I might add). There is also nothing that hints or mentions any sanctions from Linden Lab towards regions that receive many abuse reports. As a result of my own banning from XXX, after I abuse reported a resident that bumped me with a script in the store which publicly announced my IP, OS and other private details; I consequently abuse reported YYY and placed a support request with Linden Lab to have the following clarified: Is it legal to remove the rights that we are given by the Linden Lab Community Standards (LLCS) in a region covenant? Are we not sacredly given the right to abuse report and is it not our responsibility to do so if we encounter things that are illegal both in Second Life and in the Real World? In short does the covenant and region rules supersede the LLCS and federal US law? If it turns out that it is perfectly acceptable policy to ban people from your region if they abuse report fellow residents - I for one will quickly allow gambling in my region so I can start making real money. Apparently it will then just take putting up a covenant that allows it and cancels out the federal US laws and the LLCS! The problem with what XXX is doing here is also related to the "I copy your IM's" notice that people sometimes put on their profiles. It doesn't make it legal to do so just because you put it on your profile. Nor is it legal if you carry a letter in your wallet stating that "I rape girls that look at me". But we shall see what happens here - I hope that the nice Linden Lab people will bother with investigating this issue as it is an interesting one. And of course I am in no way trying to put a question mark at the legality for a region owner to ban me or anyone as he sees fit. Just don't put it in you rules/covenant like that. 

Please - please - please.. Read and understand how to setup your land acording to your wishes. Especially before you abuse report people for leaving stuff rezzed in your rez-open zone.. Secret is - as another poster mentioned - allow all to rez, but then set auto return at x minutes (for instance 15). The trick then - and this is IMPORTANT - is that you ONLY rez permanent stuff when wearing your landowner group tag. O - did I remember to say you need to deed the land to a group? Cheers,

And what would you want to pay? You do understand that a full region costs 1000 US$ from Linden Lab?