Sith Soulstar

I tp-crashed 6-8 times an hour and after upping my bandwith completely in the viewer settings, I had not 1 single crash for 4 days. I even opened 2 viewers where the bandwith of one was low and the other one was high, and I didn't crash in the high one but did crash on the low one. Then LL started messing with it and now I'm crashing at a rate of up to 20 times an hour. It's even worse now :-(. Just posting this as info to anyone who can use it.

No idea what LL is doing but after posting my personal solution of upping the bandwith, I didn't have a single crash for 4 days. The 5th day LL posts that they are working on the crashes (on the login screen) and surprise surprise : I'm crashing again! Looks to me like somebody at LL went "hey, this guy found a work-around ; let's completely mess things up so the work-around doesn't work any more either". *shakes his head and sighs...

Well, after a couple of hours on SL, I can now officially announce that (for me) turning up my bandwith seems to have fixed it. I usually crashed around 6 to 8 times in 3 hours time and I had none today (my teleports were crazy fast actually). In fact, I opened 2 viewers with 2 accounts and left the bandwith low on one viewer while keeping it maxed out on the other and behold : the maxed out one never crashed, the low one crashed twice in an hour. Again : maybe this doesn't work for everybody, but it sure does work for me. I can only advice people to give it a try ; nothing to lose 🙂 PS : I'm on Firestorm viewer

You know how they always say NOT to set your bandwith in the viewer to more than 1500? So of course I went in my settings and turned it all the way up. I seem to be teleport-crashing less now. Could be a coincidence, but I thought I'd mention it.

I know that, in all of my 12 years on SL combined, I have litterally never failed to teleport as much as in the last 2 weeks alone. This is absolutely a LL problem and they need to fix it or at least admit they have a problem because this really isn't funny any more.

Seeing this too. No friends online and even when they IM me, they don't show online. It's only after I IM them back, that I suddenly get a notification they're online. There's 1 friend however of whom I always get a notification when she logs in or out. So if it's a region or connection problem, then why is it that I see her log in and out all the time but none of my other friends?

No, probably because some people prefer to read only what they want and choose to ignore the rest because it doesn't fit their narrative. (They do trump "tentacle supremacy" :-p).

1- Ummm... Yeah... I don't see why people would be answering sarcastic rhetorical questions to begin with. 2- For some reason people seem to miss the part where I prefer to let everybody in peace and to judge them on their actions, not by their profile. 3- If we're gonna use search results : Total entries for "Black supremacy" in search: 35 Total entries for "White supremacy" in search: 3 Total entries for "superior black" in search: 20 Total entries for "superior white" in search: 6 4- And just for a laugh :

So how far does this go then? Should I report everybody belonging to a group about supremacy (mostly black) or every female avatar that writes in her profile she's a [REDACTED] for blacks, excluding whites? Or does this so called racism only work when it's white on black? I've given racism in SL some attention and it's amazing how many groups you find that are just straight out racist towards whites. For some strange reason that's perfectly acceptable yet if a (I suppose) white dude puts a quote from a song in his profile that mentions the word 'nazi' we should go full snowflake-mode and report him? Do a group search on the term "white supremacy". You'll get loads of results but if you look at them closely, you'll see that 90% of them are about black supremacy. There's loads of racism in SL, it's just not really white on black but the other way round. Any way : I just let everybody be who they want and play how they want. They can put in their profile what they want and belong to groups they freely choose. If I don't like the way they act, I call them out on it or just block them. Simple...

@Rachel1206 That's weird, especially since Belleza is one of the very worse bodies for me to rezz. I'm going to keep an eye on mesh bodies (sounds pervy, I know :-p ) the next couple of times I log in and do some more travelling around to see if I can notice something more. If (on my viewer at least) mesh bodies influence performance, then it might as well be certain clothes, hairs, whatever... Might be interesting to also have a look at the mesh/bento heads and see if any type rezzes faster than the others. I'm gonna get back to this when I get some results. Does anybody know of a way to prevent a certain brand of body or other mesh from rezzing? Like a way to derender all things created by resident x? Would be a lot easier to test things that way. @Theresa Tennyson Your explanation does clear some things up and sounds acceptable. The most bodies around are indeed Maitreya and it reflects on the CDN remarks made earlier in this topic. But I see more of the other bodies around (especially Belleza, Altamura, and the hideous Aesthetic) than I see Slink or Signature, yet it's the latter that rezz faster for me than the others. So this doesn't follow the 'cached bodies'-rule. Not saying you're wrong ; you definitely might be on to something, I just want to point out the exception.

OK... So I've been seeing this pattern and I've been paying more and more attention to it and testing my theory and I came up with the following : The speed with which my environment rezzes depends greatly on what mesh bodies are around. I've been noticing that Maitreya ,Slink, TMP and Signature bodies rezz first and about everything else (Belleza, Tonic, Abar, Altamura, Aesthetic,...) takes a (very) long time to rezz. It looks as if these bodies are having a SERIOUS impact on my rezzing speed in general. On my travels I happened to arrive in a sim where a dozen avatars were around and it only took a couple of seconds to rezz everything while it usually takes me 5 to 15 minutes to rezz! I checked and.... yep, only Slink and Maitreya bodies around ; none of the others! Does anybody have an explanation for this? And why these bodies seem to affect only me and apparently nobody else?

@binder59 I looked into Cloudflare but I don't see how that would help. I'd have to set up my own website? I tried adding www.secondlife.com but got the message that "this zone is banned". Think I better wait until I get news from my friend. Lol...

@Klytyna A friend of mine who works in IT is looking into the CDN thing. He told me pretty much the same as you did. He's currently looking into setting up a VPN to see if that helps since it skips a couple of hops. He even talked about trying to access LL servers via Asia instead of via the eastcoast of the US. Not sure if going through Asia is going to do any good, but still... We can try :-). I'll report back here once I get some results from that VPN. @Rachel1206 Yes, I flushed my DNS a couple of times already. Just did it again but still no change. And yes I'm on IPv4 and Windows :-).

@Klytyna My bandwith is currently set to 1400. I also tried 3000, 1000, 500, 200 and even as low as 50. None of these settings improve anything ; SL just gets even slower when I lower the bandwith while my ping and packet loss stay the same. I still don't understand why I seem to be the only one having this problem. I talked to other people from Spain (some even with the same ISP) and they don't seem to have this problem while most of them have a system that's older and a lot weaker than mine. Made me to believe something in my PC was broken but I checked everything and it's all running great. Last but not least : you might be on to something with that CDN (no idea what it is or how to check it -let alone improve it-, but I've heard it being mentioned before). No matter my ping and packet loss, my rezz times don't really improve all that much when those numbers are lower. But then again : I'm guessing all of Europe makes a connection to the USA through that same line (as far as I know it's the only line) and still it only seems to be affecting me :-S.

@Lillith Hapmouche To make sure I just ran a test, comparing low settings to ultra settings. On both settings I have today a packet loss of +13% and a ping of +/- 400ms. FPS is also the same on both (50+). Rezzing times are about the same on both settings BUT : on ultra, more things rezz faster in the beginning than they do on low settings and near the end when everything is almost rezzed, it happens slower on ultra than on low settings. Looks like ultra settings start things of pretty fast but then slowing down a lot near the end, where low settings has a steady pase from start til finish. As for my ISP : I tried 3 different ones in the past year and it's all the same. My wife works for my current ISP and she asked them to run some tests so I may hope they really did everything they could. They said it's a Linden Lab servers problem and I think that's also what my traceroute command tells me. I'll add a pic of my traceroute just in case anybody gets any wiser from that (erased part of the first 4 steps for privacy reasons). Usually it gives me 3 or 4 time outs ; today only 2.

Nope, it doesn't matter which viewer I focus on. I can run either one in full screen mode and minimize the other one and the numbers will stay about the same. Also : both avatars are standing inworld next to each other, so it's not the sim ; and both avatars have the same avatar complexity (they're twins, even wearing the same HUDS). And about the nodes not functioning... I'm afraid it must be something like that and I'll have to learn to live with it. It just sucks having the world rezz in 5 to 10 seconds on ultra settings one day and the next day and ever since, having to wait for 10 to 15 minutes on low settings :-(. On the bright side : I'll probably spend less and less time (and money) in SL until I eventually just stop playing it all together. After 11 years it starts getting boring any way and these problems are really taking the last bit of fun I had left out of it. Thanks any way for trying guys!

Just throwing it out there... I opened 2 viewers at the same time, small windows, allowing me to place the statistics bar next to each other and make a screenshot. On the left is the statistics bar of the first viewer I opened, on the right the second one. How can my Packet loss in viewer 1 be 6.1% and in viewer 2 'only' 0.6%??? This just gets weirder although I guess I shouldn't be complaining since my packet loss stayed under 10% these last few days... :-S

Just did a little timing... Teleported to a small skybox with 4 avatars around. Lowest FPS : 39. Once rezzed it stabilized around 105. Average packet loss : 7.7%. Once rezzed it stabilized at 7.2%. Ping sim : from 400 to 1277 ms but mostly around 600 to 700 ms. Once rezzed it stabilized around 600 ms. Time to rezz my surroundings : 2 minutes. Time to rezz all 4 avatars : 6 minutes. Not a bad day actually... (sad, I know)

@Whirly Fizzle Yes, I did that ages ago.

@Whirly Fizzle I just connected to SL via the cellular network of both my own phone and the phone of my wife (2 different providers). Same packet loss, much higher ping (up to +5000ms).

@Whirly Fizzle Thanks for the help. I tried SL on my (12 year old) laptop. Same problem there. Although it's old and 'crappy', SL isn't even worse on my laptop. Lol. It's just equally bad. Not sure how to connect my desktop PC to the internet using my cell phone, so I'll look into this and get back to you on this. I connect using a wired connection and I don't have wifi on my desktop computer, so I can't try using wifi. However, my old laptop can use wifi and if I connect it over wifi or use a wired connection it doesn't make a difference. To make sure it's not my cable, I used 4 different cables to connect to the internet, but it's all the same. Note 1 : It seems today for some unknown reason my packet loss (according to the statistics bar in the viewer) is suddenly down to about 2%!!! I haven't had a packet loss this low in almost a year! Is Linden Labs reading this post and finally doing something about it? Lol! Wondering how long it'll last... Note 2 : About 6 months ago I updated my BIOS and that seemed to seriously improve it, almost to the point that the problem was as good as solved, but after 2 days the problem returned. So I'm not sure if updating my BIOS worked (temporarily) or if SL just happened to love me for those 2 days. I have been thinking that maybe my CPU is getting too old, but after some research I concluded that it should normally be more than powerful enough to play SL without any problems. Right? (Intel i7-3820)

@ LittleMe : I've tried all kind of different settings and none seem to make a difference. I usually have it set to 1500. Interesting fact here is that I never crash. Also teleporting is pretty fast and never gives me any trouble. It's just that, when I arrive, it takes me that long before everything is rezzed properly. @ Whirly : I have Norton as Firewall and Antivirus, but I've had that for years and it never gave me any trouble. I also tried completely disabling that but that doesn't make any difference. I use Firestorm but I also tried the original SL viewer, Singularity and Black Dragon. The problem is exactly the same on all viewers. Extra info : I joined 3 different ISP's and the problem remained with all 3. My current ISP did some tests and according to them there is something wrong once my connection hops to the Linden Labs servers. For those familiar with it : When I execute a "tracert" command to a SL sim, the results I get show hops from my location (Spain) to France, Germany, England, the US, and then I get 3 to 5 time-outs (that's bad. Lol). Of course Linden Labs persists that nothing is wrong on their end, so I don't know any more :-S

Hi everyone! This started almost a year ago, practically overnight, around the time of an update. I have been trying everything I can think of, hoping it would fix things, but nothing is improving. Contacting LL doesn't help (because, let's face it : they don't really give a damn). So this is the problem : When I teleport to a place (5 to 20 avatars around, most just standing still), it can literally take me up 15 minutes before everybody and everything is rezzed (on lowest settings). Last year it took me about 5 seconds (on ultra settings). My FPS is mostly somewhere around 60. BUT : My packet loss (according to my viewer) is mostly around 12%!!! and ping is mostly around 400 ms. The odd thing is that when I check packet loss and ping to an SL sim with the prompt commands "ping" and "tracert", it gives me 0.0% packet loss and 180 ms ping! If anybody could tell me what is going on, I'd really appreciate it because after 11 years on SL this is REALLY taking the fun out of it. My PC : cpu : intel I7-3820 / GPU : Nvidia GTX 1070 / RAM : 32GB (1600 Mhz) / OS : Windows 8.1 64-bit. My internet (+/-) : Ping 17ms / 15MB down / 2 MB up // Speedtest to Phoenix (AZ) : Ping 180ms / 13MB down / 1.8MB up. Thanks for your time!

For those who still have this problem and for those who just came here because they have it : Update your BIOS! After almost 3 months I can finally play second life again as I used to, just by updating my BIOS! Look for an update for your motherboard and read instructions carefully. After the update restart computer twice to make sure it settled in alright and enjoy second life again! :-D

I'm so glad to finally find this topic!!! I thought I was the only one. SL was working just fine for me. Graphics settings were at high+ (just under ultra) and the world and people around me loaded in a matter of seconds. Somewhere around June/July I closed down SL and went to bed. When I started up SL the next day, it was lagging very badly. Textures staying grey for a long time, buildings loading slow, avatars even slower. By now it can literally take me up to 10 minutes to load a scene with only a few avatars present at the very LOWEST graphics settings. I noticed it got worse every time there had been a maintenance. I've been trying every possible solution for the past 2 months but absolutely nothing improves my SL experience. It's just getting worse with every 'maintenance' they do. Contacting LL didn't get me anywhere either. They replied but were unable to solve the problem. I'm afraid those of us who got affected are just going to have to learn to live with it. Or quit SL all together which is what I'm seriously thinking about after 10 years (I have 1 older avatar). It's a big coincidence that the problems on SL (and the unwillingness of LL to do something about it) started around the time that Sansar was launched. Isn't it?