Josh Susanto

And did you spend the same amount on listing enhancements?

The boxes make it more difficult for someone at LL to steal, and that's why they have to go.

Just for the record, I'd like to state that I do not condone torture. Of course, it wouldn't actually be my job to do anything about it...

Thanks. That's a bit spotty, and I must admit it shows almost the opposite of what I expected. Has there been any change in the way you've been using listing enhancments?

>Some one or some thing? ;-) ;-) ;-) Well money is disappearing. I don't think LL is prepared to prove otherwise in court. The excuse that maybe it's not really being "stolen", exactly, because maybe it's being destroyed rather than put into anyone's account doesn't fly with me. I'm sure I've pointed this out many times already, but a point I think bears repeating is that the destruction of Linden dollars is where LL really makes practically all of its money. Money that is paid in potentially needs to be paid back until it gets destroyed, so the destruction of Linden money is exactly what LL should want to happen. What I think is really happening, though, is that someone inside the system is taking the money and creating a record that says it is destroyed. That way LL doesn't actually want any questions asked, much less want to be the one asking them. That is, LL keeps a lid on the fact that it is being scammed, because it believes it is running the scam.

Bickering over whether or not we should believe it's deliberate is pointless. The fact is that we know it's happening and we know that LL knows that it is happening and they know that we know and they know that we know that they know we know. Everyone knows that everyone knows that it's happening. And LL does nothing about it. WHY?

Of course they could do that. But not doing it provides a distraction for merchants who might otherwise continue to focus on the continuing failure to address "showstopper" JIRAs. Keeping a few easy-fix problems handy is probably allowing someone to keep her job by letting her show immediate progress any time there's a whiff of anybody possibly being held accountable for anything.

>What you can do to combat the issue is to rez the item, take a copy then put the new copy into a new Magic Box. That is not a bad suggestion, thanks. But I also immediately thought of it the first time I observed this problem. >This creates a unique object separate from the first with its own unique UUID. In principle, this is correct. I get it. That's why I thought it would work, myself. >With luck it will wind up on a separate Asset Server computer inside the Farm too. No luck :-( I don't know how they assign things to specific servers, but I guess they're doing it alphabetically or by date, or in some such combination. Maybe I need to start putting prefixes on stuff that assures it will go to the least busy server. Any suggestions with that?

You might try changing the spelling to "faerie".

Excellent. Thanks. All by itself, this doesn't prove much, although zero is s number we should all be seeing less often rather than more often. Until I get some data from other people, I suppose I can at least ask whether anyone does not see Dora having an improvement in sales for at least 2 weeks before 15 June.

>Are you saying that someone is illegally redirecting some of the marketplace money stream to his own pocket? That sounds like a serious crime to me. I would be a serious crime if the TOS didn't define what is being stolen as licensed intellectual property ultimately to be regulated (or unregulated) in completely arbitrary ways by LL. It's sort of like a casino employee sneaking poker chips away from you, except, in this case, when you report it to the state gaming commission, it turns out that the casino actually belongs to the state, and that they already know and they already don't care.

>Now they need a new excuse for why MBs failed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOLrAa6LUw

It's happened before, and it tends to clear up eventually. Basically, an item fails to show up in my store (I was down to 933 from 1017 last night), so I check to make sure it's in one of my boxes, but that doesn't do me much good if the box doesn't show any sign of malfunction. So I figure I can just drop it in one of the other boxes and delete the nonlisting version if SLM decides to show me the listing again one way or another, at some point. So then I go to get another one from my inventory and ... IT JUST ISN'T THERE, EITHER. What are the chances these would be the same items? And when they DO turn up again in inventory, guess what... they've magically relisted themselves on SLM, too. I also just had another brand-new permissions failure today on an item that I've already been selling with no problem. I coudn't get the item in the box to take more than one permissions correction before that whole thing basically locked up, and the item had (um, "coincidentally") vanished from my personal inventory. All permission had been shut off of the sculpt map, too, which makes zero sense, since they begin in default with more than that anyway. As always, the problem eventually cleared up. But it's a cluster of concurrent problems that one should think would never be related unless there's something intentional behind the whole pattern. At what point would it stop being wrong to take this kind of thing sort of personally? More importantly, how often is this happening while I'm not even logged on to observe it? How many of the weird gaps in sales activity might just be gaps in SLM listing continuity?

>I think it would once you converted. You could be correct. Followers of Marshall Applewhite found the reasons for cutting off their own balls to be "obvious", but only AFTER cutting off their own balls.

I would say more do, with or without the think. Its not the thinking that's the problem; just the lack of doing, for which I guess the thinking seems to be used as some kind of excuse. As long as I'm still not banned again, let me just squeeze in the fact that my store is showing almost 100 fewer items than it did an hour ago, and all my boxes seem to be working correctly. How is this happening? And, more importantly, why does it KEEP happening? If I wanted items delisted (and deleted) I could certainly delist them myself. And considering that it's still impossible for me to get anything permanently off my unassociated inventory list, I would think it shouldn't be so easy for stuff to just up and disappear from the SLM, from my boxes, and also (at least temporarily, yes, the same items) from my inventory, without even leaving a trace. But as they say in the video, things really are not at all broken in August 2011, so I can see why it was necessary to fix them the way we have them fixed now. This IS an improvement for someone or it wouldn't just be continuing. So for whom is it an improvement?

And when we have finally all converted, what then? Will the server(s) that process DD be able to handle all the additional activity? I mean, since everything else has already gone so perfectly for everyone?

Thanks, Darrius. Warm fuzzies aside, what I meant to emphasize was that if people intend to compete by offering product but not service, it should really be pretty easy to squeeze them out of the market. Unless they prefer to shape up, of course. But with LL setting the standard, don't hold your breath.

>I'm sure this will be of little to no comfort, but I also use both MB and DD and on the period of 7-21-7-25 had delivery failures. Every single one of them, was a MB item For sure, many parts of the system were being messed with at that time. Even after I stopped looking like a cloud, it took me longer than usual to get unruthied. And since a large part of the sim I work in is still completely gray, I'm not suprised to learn than some people have also had "box problems" (SIM problems). I understand that DD is supposed to "fix that". I also understand that this incident comes immediately before the only recently postponed 1 August box shutoff, so it's probably just one more thing originally intended to convince you that you "need" to stop using your boxes .

Not that the general shape of the data is especially encouraging in itself, either... But there is a conspicuous gap that emerges and seems to remain of fixed size. When, precisely, does this gap open, and what, precisely opens it?

YES. THANK YOU.

Thanks to responding to my request before I deleted it. Is that sound bite for sale?

When in doubt, file a JIRA. What's the worst they're likely to do? Ignore them both instead of ignoring just one?

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16643492 http://www.metaversejournal.com/2011/08/15/linden-lab-ceo-were-growing-but-were-not-sure-why/

Does anyone else get the impression that some dates have been changed and messages reattributed?

Obviously I'm not doing a good job of digging through the thousands of messages, sorry. But I think you all know that the person identifying as CTL was gone for some period of time, based on what was posted. I also believe that there was an improvement in marketplace function during that time. Of course, that's splitting hairs. If everyone will just post their sales figures for as far back as they can go, I expect I'll have no problem showing that total sales are substantially higher on days when CTL does not post anything, which is the more important total pattern.