[Clothing buying preferences]

It depends on the prices and on what colors are included in the mini-fatpacks.

[When Second Life happens in Real Life]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:22 PM, Persephone Emerald said:

I saw this news story on YouTube and had to share it, because it reminded me so much of living on SL mainland.

If you have any other video, pictures or stories that are clearly examples of Second Life happening in Real Life, please post them to this thread too.

It's way different from SL. They had to submit plans, get a building permit, and comply with building codes and zoning regulations.

[Corset-Waist Deformers?]

 

20 hours ago, Orwar said:

   Any out there?

   I've got some push-up deformers which work great for the bosom in corsetry, but are there any that can pinch the waist? I know there's corsets rigged to be tight around the waist which then require alphas for the body beneath (many of which I find a bit too extreme), but could a deformer replicate the shaping akin to the love handle slider in the avatar shape to make an over-skin corset look a little tighter (without me having to make a specific shape)?

   I did find one (free) set of deformers which has one (three, actually), but according to the description it only works on certain bodies (Anatomy, I think it said?), but 'not on bodies like Reborn' - and it appears to do nothing on Legacy either. 

Check this out: Second Life Marketplace - [Raven] Deformer Suite

[Is PIOF essentially "Age Verification"?]

17 hours ago, Modulated said:

Again, when you get a prepaid debit card in the U.S. it is not anonymous, you have to give information. You seem to have left that bit out, you are in fact verified when you activate it and must give personal details to reload the card. The cards can be used if they also have a checking account function'/can handle ACH payments with SL, otherwise they can't.

Some info here: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/why-am-i-being-asked-for-personal-information-to-activate-or-register-a-prepaid-card-en-443/

Wrong. When you buy the card, you have to give NO information. You may choose to give information later online, in which case you can give fictitious information. I have used prepaid debit cards that had no connection to a bank account to pay LL at least twice.

[Is PIOF essentially "Age Verification"?]

No. Answering from the US. I have at times used prepaid debit cards to pay LL. They worked perfectly well. A kid can buy one for cash.

[38 attachment points are not enough]

2 hours ago, Cackle Amore said:

While it might only be a bandaid, if those are all attached to the head, then they could probably be linked together, unless one of the items are from one of those weird no mod sellers

That's not a very practical solution for things like earrings and glasses, of which one usually has many different ones that are mixed and matched in different outfits.

[How 'binding' are user-made ToS/licenses]

There is one case in which those TOSs clearly are invalid: when they are not made available to the buyer until after the sale.

[38 attachment points are not enough]

Mostly, 38 is enough, but occasionally it isn't, usually when, in addition to all of the usual things, I am wearing multiple items that have texture-change HUDs. I don't need to wear those HUDs continuously, but I do need them when I first don the outfit, and I know of no other way to attach them conveniently than to include them in the outfit.

 

 

 

[What option is best to protect modesty in places with lots of lag?]

Here's my solution:

Second Life Marketplace - Mormon Underwear

 

[Does anyone do custom shape styling?]

On 3/2/2024 at 1:56 PM, Melancholy said:

I have an older Lelutka head -- Simone. I'd like to upgrade to an EvoX head so I can take advantage of newer skins, but the heads don't respond well to my existing shape. After days of wrangling, I have to admit it's beyond my ability to make the newer heads look like "me." Are there shape makers or stylists who help people upgrade from one generation of head to another? Is this even a thing? 

Me, too.

[Ebody and V]

1 hour ago, Ceka Cianci said:

Session has their own fluid system that's named, Lets just say ,close to the word JAZZ, that works with the V and the P huds.. But The INM usually just works with furniture and other objects in world and other users with that system..

It was released as a beta version with a long list of features that were to be added, but there have been no updates since I bought it in May 2021. Draw your own conclusions.

[Lara X bits]

9 hours ago, AmeliaJ08 said:

I'm told the 'V' update is on its way but... it has been a while.

It's not actually an update but will be a separate product that will need to be purchased.

Which is pretty bad.

Maitreya gave us LaraX as a free update. My favorite clothing creators are giving LaraX versions as free updates. But Sessions/ASA won't do that.

I have been a very satisfied wearer of The V Bento, but you can bet I'll be giving Sensations a look.

[What new name would you give Second Life?]

The Biggest Game of Dolls.

[How Far Into Realism Do WE Truly Want To GO?]

On 12/16/2023 at 5:25 PM, Bagnu said:

As it stands, we have a cartoony look in SL. Would we ACTUALLY be comfortable if our SL were fully RL realistic, as if we were watching a movie? I don't know if I would be. Or would we like it more? Any comments on this?

I would love it. I hope our avatars keep getting better. As others have said, they have improved very much from what they years ago. I hope and expect that improvement will continue.

[Multiple adjacent parcels listed for one price .. enforceable or buyer beware]

On 12/13/2023 at 12:34 PM, animats said:

If the seller is willing to disclose their identity, you can contract with them outside SL. That's enforceable in court.

After thinking about this, I wonder if a contract entered into by avatars within SL might be enforceable in court. If negotiated in IMs, there would be a written record which is maintained by LL for some time. IANAL,  but I wouldn't think that the parties using aliases would invalidate the contract. Couldn't an injured party file suit against "John Doe" pending identification of the defendant, subpoena identification and contact information as well as IM logs from LL/Tilia, serve the defendant, and proceed with the suit?

I also had the thought that we need access to some kind of escrow system in SL, letting either LL-vetted-and-licensed users serve as escrow agants or LL itself providing the service.

[Tattoo layers, stupid Q]

If your body has applier tattoo layers, you can apply to tattoo to a layer and hide one of the layer's arms.

 

[Fitmesh Necklaces]

I would appreciate someone giving me a little more education about rigged mesh. Until this discussion, I thought I understood mesh clothing well, but it's clear that I don't.

I did some testing with old standard-sized rigged mesh clothing. I did not test exhaustively but tested several selected shape sliders. It responded to the height, body thickness, shoulders, arm length, and torso length sliders, but did not respond to the body fat, torso muscles, breast size, love handles, or belly size sliders. A newer rigged mesh clothing item responded to all of these sliders. 

I understand that the newer item was rigged for my specific (Lara) mesh body, but that doesn't seem relevant to which shape sliders it would respond to. I didn't try it, but I'm pretty sure that if I had tried it with a mesh garment rigged for some other body, it would have fit poorly but still responded to the shape sliders.

Are there just two kinds of rigged mesh attachments? Does one kind always respond to the same sunset of shape sliders and the other respond to a larger subset that is always the same or can there be many variations in what subset of shape sliders they respond to?

[Fitmesh Necklaces]

On 12/1/2023 at 9:20 PM, Blush Bravin said:

That's incorrect. They basically mean the same thing, but the term fitmesh is no longer used. It was kind of a transition term used by creators when they were figuring out how to get mesh to respond to shape sliders so it could be used for clothing. Rigged mesh means the mesh has been rigged to the bones of the avatar skeleton. That's why rigged mesh responds to the sliders. Once rigged mesh was officially adopted the term fitmesh was basically dropped and the term rigged mesh became the norm. 

OK. Thanks for educating me.

Thanks to all who suggested places to look.

[Fitmesh Necklaces]

13 hours ago, Blush Bravin said:

Avaway has an extended assortment of rigged necklaces. I have several necklaces from other creators as well. Perhaps your terminology is part of why you are having trouble finding "fitmesh" necklaces. The term fitmesh was only used during the very early stages of rigged mesh development. It's been called rigged mesh for years now. 

I almost never wear any necklaces that aren't rigged mesh.

Earrings and rings are abundantly available in rigged versions. In fact, you can't wear rings unless they are rigged on any finger other than the ring finger. I use elf ears quite often and they are animated so rigged earrings are a must for me. E.Marie and Vibing oftentimes have rigged earrings and/or rings on the Saturday Sale.

I understand fitmesh to mean "rigged mesh that responds to shape sliders," and I understand rigged mesh to mean rigged mesh that does not respond to shape sliders.

Is that incorrect?

[Why is it so difficult for creators to put a demo in a folder?]

I want the HUD or other container because I like to keep backups, and that makes it convenient. I also like the convenience of not having to use a HUD or open a box to access my purchase. Therefore, my preference is to receive a folder containing my unpacked purchase and a box or HUD containing all the items. Often, if I don't receive a HUD or box, I'll box up a copy myself for a backup; that is obviously extra effort that I would prefer to avoid.

[Fitmesh Necklaces]

I hope this is the right place to post this.

Why aren't there more of them for sale? When fitmesh was released, I expected that there would be a lot of fitmesh necklaces because necklaces almost never fit well. I have found very few? Why? Am I the only person bothered by poorly-fitting necklaces?

[What Would You Like to Remove From Second Life Permanently?]

No mod mesh clothing.

[What Would You Like to Remove From Second Life Permanently?]

11 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

And that right there, is the classic display of that sense of OVER-entitled "What's mine is mine and what's YOUR'S is MINE too!".

Who the hell are YOU to demand that a land owner WASTE their LI allowance catering to your sense of over-entitlement.

 

The BAN LINES are your indicator.

I don't demand anything of any other landowner. However, I am free to draw appropriate conclusions from their behavior. Nice people willingly share and accommodate other people's needs and wants. Jerks don't just because they can get away with it. No one can know what's in another's mind, but I suspect that the usual reason is that it makes them feel powerful and consequential. 

My land is open to everyone, with two exceptions: those who have earned bans by behaving offensively (After 14 years, there are only about 100 on the ban list.), and neighbors who have put up ban lines. 

[What Would You Like to Remove From Second Life Permanently?]

1 hour ago, Katherine Heartsong said:

That is an odd thing to me. I would have thought that an attempt to cam into someone's home through the walls would stop at the walls as is the case in many video games. Sure you can peek in windows that are uncovered, and if someone's left a door open get in camming that way, but walls should be solid, no?

I have been wondering since 2007 why SL is designed to let people cam through solid walls. Not that it really matters because there are no people inside, only avatars, which are fictional just as Facebook said when they closed my account years ago.

[One thing or person that you wish you can get back in SL?]

On 10/27/2023 at 12:55 PM, Rolig Loon said:

That's probably very wise, and it certainly would reduce clutter. I have a hard time doing this for people I have been close to, though. I have a hard time believing in an afterlife, but I do have a strong feeling that we are "alive" as long as someone remembers us.  My parents and grandparents are alive in my mind, and I hope I remain alive to some people well after I am gone.  It's not nostalgia in the wistful sense; it's hard to explain.  Somehow, removing a person from my friends list just because she has passed on in RL shuts a door that I don't want closed.

Yes, a thousand times.