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Madelaine McMasters

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  1. 17 minutes ago, kiramanell said:


    No, they're insane. Wity and caring, possibly (but irrelevant); but definitely, literally insane: "in a state of mind which prevents normal perception, behaviour, or social interaction."

    I believe you are wrong. They're worried, perhaps frightened, but hardly insane. The harder you argue your point with me, the more credibility you'll lose, with me and others.



    And more broadly: https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555


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  2. 3 minutes ago, kiramanell said:

    I'm that gal who will tell the Empress she's not wearing any clothes, and the anti-vaxxers they're insane.

    And you'd be so very wrong about the anti-vaxxers, potentially driving them deeper into their beliefs. They are absolutely sane. They're intelligent. They're witty. They are kind and caring and... misinformed.

    We're all misinformed about something. To question their sanity simply reveals your own ignorance and ends the discussion. You no longer have credibility.

    Don't do that!

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  3. 41 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    The nastiness of this is, to my mind, justified by the subject. As brutal and, frankly, unfair as this satire is, the target is vastly more horrifying.


    I'm conflicted over that clip. If the point of the satire is to elicit change, I wonder if it works. Might it actually victimize itself with semantic satiation? George Carlin eventually did.

    I share your horror over the Catholic Church and hope it is safely repaired or dismantled, but I don't think that clip will do anything but to get the faithful (of many religions) to dig in their heels in revulsion. I try to avoid having my humor work against me.

    Mea Maxima Culpa, though hardly humorous, seems more effective to me.

  4. 18 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    The whole point of showcasing this kind of weirdness -- what Letterman used to call "Stupid Human Tricks" -- is in itself kind of nasty and mean-spirited, because the humour derives in part from showcasing the supposed ridiculousness and pointlessness of what these people are doing. And it does so by measuring their manias against a constructed "norm" to which the rest of us belong: "Hey, I find this ridiculous and funny! Just like everyone else who's laughing! I belong in the ranks of "sensible" and "normal" people too!" So, it is not merely holding people up to ridicule for its entertainment value, but also actively defining an "inside" of "cool kids" by exhibiting those whom it very showily excludes from that category.

    I don't need to see people being humiliated publicly to be entertained. And as much to the point, I am deeply suspicious of any sort of exercise that works to make me and others feel smugly superior and complacent about how much I "belong." At its best, humour creates community through a shared enjoyment of incongruity: when we laugh together, we are recognizing our affinities, and we come closer together. But I don't like it much when the mechanism for showing who is "in" is exhibiting those whom we are supposed to identify as being "out."

    That said . . . I kind of love Carson in this, because, although he's playing the game, he's also sweet and gentle and kind and courteous to her. I'm not particularly nostalgic for the humour of a half century ago, per se, but it does seem to me that American comedy and humour took a strange turn when Letterman, smart and funny as he is, took over from Carson. The humour suddenly became a whole lot meaner in spirit. And I'm sorry for that.

    I dislike Letterman and Seinfeld for the reason you state. I also dislike the late shows that do "man on the street" interviews showing only the clips that reveal ignorance. You never see the person who makes the questioner look like a fool, and you know that happens.

    In this clip, I don't think Carson is making fun of that woman's passion for finding patterns so much as going for the juxtaposition of museum worthy potato chips. There hasn't been a time in my life where someone expressed an interest in something weird and I haven't felt the desire to have fun with them over it and reveal my own weird interests. Weirdness is everywhere and I relish it.

    That is, I hope, a recognizable trait in my humor. I target me more than anyone else.

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  5. 12 hours ago, roseelvira said:

    And is it wrong that what my husband s near death and every thing i witnessed at his icu bedside and eveything that happend is it wrong or not normal for me to be  a bit sensitive to things at this time  i am just asking  very softly 

    Rose, you were one of a few people who IMed me condolences after the passing of my mother. I'm grateful for that. It was a lovely gesture and it helped. I understand that you are highly religious. You've demonstrate what's best about religion, caring for others.

    I'm an atheist (to within some inevitable degree of uncertainty) and have a fairly wicked sense of humor. In the last conversation I had with Mom, we were joking about her impending death. It's what the McMasters family does in the face of tragedy. In RL, the people closest to me have cracked jokes about Mom's passing that have made me laugh out loud. They understand me, Mom, and the "McMasters way", and honor her memory in that way. I hope I am sensitive enough to guide my humor around your pain, like helping hands, to lift your spirit, not crush it.

    I am in agreement with Scylla on subjecting religion to humor. Religion, like athiesm, science, politics, sex, etc., are human endeavors. I can't think of anything funnier than... human endeavors, particularly sex. The more seriously we take these subjects and ourselves, the more ripe they are for the sharp eye of satire. Satire. Not sarcasm. Laughter with, not laughter at. Though we have vastly different beliefs, I suspect we both share one. Laughter is good medicine, maybe not the best, but still good. I've often commented on Mom's drift from Catholicism to the "it's all good" sentiment of the local Unitarian church in search of the best potluck dinners. She was searching for the sense of community that both religion and the sharing of food can bring. My humor is not intended to denigrate, but rather to illuminate the human condition with a warm, yet revealing, light.

    For what it's worth ($30, and naught more than some potential small legal recognition) I'm an ordained minister of Universal Life Church, registered with the State of Wisconsin. Though my "ministry" is a bit tongue-in-cheek, I'll preside over Mom's funeral and the wedding of my cousin this summer with all the thoughtful consideration those events deserve. Mom's life was full of laughter. I hope my cousin and his wife will share a long future together, filled with laughter. They picked me because they both love irony and could imagine nothing more amusing than being married by a smart-ass atheist who preaches their own most cherished belief, kindness to others. Whether I send people home laughing or crying, my goal is to celebrate the lives, past and future, of the people involved and the little communities that surround them.

    I'm thinking about you and your husband. I hope that, no matter how it goes, the two of you still have some laughter left to share.

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  6. 4 hours ago, Orwar said:

    I just like pushing buttons. Much quicker to sort people out that way. 


    3 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said:
    4 hours ago, Orwar said:

    Anyone can hold a polite conversation within the boundaries of social convention, it doesn't tell you half as much about someone as to see what happens when you drop them off at the deep and see how they deal with it. 

    I don't really understand why you'd want to test someone like this right from the off. What are they supposed to have to prove to anyone? 


    3 hours ago, Orwar said:
    3 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said:

    What are they supposed to have to prove to anyone? 

       Whether they're worth my time, obviously. 

    I have other methods to make that determination.

    I just used one.

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  7. 1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    "You can wind my watch" doesn't have the same "ring" to it as, "You can ring my bell".

    Yeah, but a well wound watch can run for days, ya know.

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  8. 11 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

    I'd like to know the significance of you vajayjay being hidden by what appears to be a pocke*****ch.

    Well there ya go, Li'l. The naughty word filter knows the significance.

    Sadly, nobody's ever offered to wind it.

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  9. 16 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

    I'm a little confused about those extra swirly features.  Aren't those the same things that they put in the X-ray glasses you can order from ads in comic books?  How do those work?  Explain , please.

    They're mesmerizers. They appear stationary, but if you watch the tassles long enough, then look away, the entire world swirls...

    I wanna see any of you counter-rotate your tassels at different speeds.

    Everyone's got a talent. That's mine.

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  10. 56 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    Hi Everyone. To make this process easier, I'm going to be producing "Maddy McMasters Paper Dolls," which I'll be distributing to anyone interested (C/M/NTFP).

    This way, we don't have to wait for Maddy to get around to trying the suggestions we've made, and we'll be fully armed should she try to tell us that they aren't what she was looking for.


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  11. 12 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    Oooh! I don't know this place. Thanks Lindal!

    I think Maddy is looking for something less messy? (I on the other hand love messy.)

    Maybe Mina?

    Yep, I'm looking for the Hollywood perfect shiny do that Anne wore so well.

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  12. Hi Kids,

    Since childhood, I've had a crush on Anne Francis. For the last 10 years, I've been wearing hair that looks like the elder Anne...

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    Now that I'm nearing 50, I want hair more like the younger Anne from my RL profile pic...


    I've found two styles. This, from FABIA is nice and sharp, but it derenders at viewing distances above 15m or so, leaving me bald...

    This from Tameless is messier, has some neat flexy bits and renders at all distances...


    I prefer the well kept look of the first do, but don't like the rendering issues.

    Do any of you know where I might find similar styles?


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  13. 22 minutes ago, Dano Seale said:

    and most music died in the mid-90's as far as I'm concerned.....from BOTH sexes!

    I've never actually done a search and I'm not sure just how I'd do it, but I suspect I could find music to love from every decade since the first sheet music was printed in 1473. That's nearly 55 decades of things to enjoy.

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  14. 40 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said:

    A slightly different approach

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    And an even more slightly different approach, burying the modification of fToggle in the usage of it...

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  15. I very very rarely get rude IMs. When I do, I'm with all those who just stay silent. Replying to an unwelcome advance with what you deem to be a witty response just hands them the win. If I respond at all, it might be with constructive criticism. Sometimes I sense loneliness on the other end and offer a little compassion.

    I don't like put-downs. When I do deliver one, it's usually in defense of another person, or an idea. I rarely feel the need to defend myself. If I do, I've usually made a mistake and offer an apology.

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  16. 1 minute ago, JanuarySwan said:

    I don't know much about the black plaque and how it stopped...some of these things in history seem surreal since we weren't there.  But, maybe they should update the term to "vaccinating the herd" because that is really what will make us immune.  The problem is in America there are times vaccines are not mandatory.   Plus, Covid-19 is vicious in that even if we've had it we don't know how long the antibodies will last.  And even with the first vaccine it's thought it may not be enough which kind of eludes to almost admitting the antibodies don't last all that long.  Our herd may need several vaccines.  From what I've heard pretty much across the board though is it could a couple of years, maybe a little less.   So much is unknown. 

    Absolutely, January. (And welcome to the forums!)

    Clearly, some politicians who are are constructing public policy don't understand herd immunity and the relative costs of reaching it via infection vs. immunization. Immunology and epidemiology are terribly complex subjects, the lay public can be excused for not grasping all the nuance.

    Even if infection doesn't confer permanent immunity, it does remove the infected and recovered individual from any potential role as a spread vector for at least some period of time. That lowers the infection rate for the duration of that immunity and that may be sufficient to keep total infections to a manageable level. This is the case for the flu, where vaccines often miss their intended target as the virus mutates. You may not prevent people from getting ill, but a secondary goal is to prevent the health care system from being overwhelmed.

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  17. Just now, Mollymews said:

    i interpret what Sweden did a bit differently.  Sweden penned separately  only those animals they found to be sick, taking them from the one big pen as they were discovered. Other farmers divided up their one big pen into lots of separate pens (because they had the pens to do so), reducing the spread of infection between the animals

    like you say this was a strategic decision. The farmers (next door to Sweden) to date have lost less animals than has the Swedish farmer

    I didn't say Sweden's strategy was correct, just that it was different. I also mispoke a bit. Their decision was not to pen those with low vulnerability (general population) but those with high vulnerability (lock down the nursing facilities). Unaccounted for (probably forever) in all this is the pecuniary aspect of shutting down economies. That calculation is easier for a farmer to make and the moral implications are less weighty.

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  18. 12 minutes ago, JanuarySwan said:

    Not from what I understand.  Herd immunity means vaccines only, targeted vaccines that make us immune, even if we need more than one injection for several years.  Infection and it's antibodies may make us immune for a little while but if we went mingling all about, it would be like herd culling because we have no sustained immunity known yet plus we can spread the virus before we even have symptoms.  That is why herd immunity takes years but it's only through vaccines that we can achieve it (immunity) as the term herd immunity goes....which maybe should be called "vaccinating the herd" for a better term.  

    The concept of herd immunity vastly predates the invention of vaccines. Herd immunity was one factor in the eventual decline of the black plague in the 1300s. Vaccines are the preferred method to achieve herd immunity because they prevent the spread of the disease while avoiding the symptoms of it, one of which may be death (cull).

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  19. Just now, Mollymews said:

    i think we might be saying the same thing. Is just how many pens do we have on our farm

    in the human case we have lots of pens (households) and so can also separate those we might expect to survive from each other, so to reduce the total number of infections in the herd

    Sweden decided not to pen healthy people in their homes, but rather to penn the vulnerable elderly in their care facilities. The strategic goal is different. When you pen the sick, you are avoiding herd immunity. When you pen the vulnerable, you are depending on it.

  20. 4 minutes ago, Mollymews said:

    yes, but in this covid case there is no vaccine. Without penning the sick animals separately from the rest of the herd then we end up culling the herd thru infection in greater numbers than is necessary

    Alternatively, can can (and have been in some places like Sweden) penn the most vulnerable animals and let the strongest weather what we expect will be a survivable illness.

    17 minutes ago, JanuarySwan said:

    Herd immunity is about vaccines and has been around in America since the 1930's, so it isn't anything new here...just maybe the first time some of us are talking about it/hearing about it.   So, "vaccinating the herd" would probably be a better term.   Without a vaccine though, it would be like herd culling, and that is where we stand today.  

    There is no generic herd immunity. My mother contracted a mild case of polio in the 1930s and suffered barely noticeable weakness as a result. Herd immunity to polio would not arrive until widespread administration of Jonas Salk's vaccine in the 1950s, continuing through to today. Herd immunity was in the news a few years ago when measles popped up in the Pacific northwest. Anti-vaxxers were blamed for compromising herd immunity via the introduction of injectable and therefore potentially infectious offspring into the otherwise protected population, endangering those who, for various reasons, could not receive the measles vaccine.

    The only ways to achieve herd immunity are (I think?) via infection or vaccination. The cull ratios for each method are vastly different.

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