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Looking at some of the undeveloped grasslands made me wonder . . . could this continent be mixed development? I.e., part of it as Linden homes and part as regular old undeveloped land to purchase? Also really hoping there will be more water space around the continent. As it is, there's no way a sailboat could pass it. And, while I'm dreaming, maybe some restrictions on ban lines and security orbs? Would be great to have a continent that can actually be safely flown over.

I think it’s a great idea! Should be easy to implement too. LL just needed access to the complete service records of everyone who has been in the military to verify against. Then we need to make sure LL has every SL user’s correct name, DOB, social security number, etc. so that LL can cross verify those claims and avoid getting caught up in problems with people having the same name. And, of course, everyone will need to supply identification when registering so we can make sure they provide their correct identification info. Then we will need some method of monitoring or collecting reports whenever someone says they were in the military and they might not be. What could possibly go wrong?

Suggestion: Spend some time listening to good DJs that you'd like to emulate. Befriend some DJ's that you consider to be good ones you'd like to emulate and ask them to give you tips. There are tons and tons of lousy SL DJs out there. I've even mistaken some for automated audio streams. But good DJs are always in demand and have no trouble finding work.

Both parcels are now sold. Thank you to both buyers and enjoy!

In the spirit of trying to restrain topic drift a little bit and help keep this discussion on topic, I went ahead and started a separate topic about buying abandoned land here: Sorry to anyone who was too disturbed by the topic drift.

There seems to be a lot of interest in buying land over in the SSP discussion, and it's an issue that comes up periodically, so I thought I would start this thread in the spirit of keeping the discussion from leading the SSP thread completely off topic. 🙂 the Linden Lab policy on requesting sales of abandoned land is here: if you take a look at that, you will see that there are some pretty widespread misconceptions. For example, there is no rule requiring that people surround the abandoned parcel on three sides to create a sufficient claim to justify the sale of abandoned land to them. But there is a guideline saying that people who already own land in the region get priority over others. I own only about ¼ region and it is a little bit scattered into various locations in the grid. But the overwhelming majority of the land I have has been purchased as abandoned land. It's probably the least expensive way to buy land and there is so much out there that it really isn't hard to find something desirable-- albeit a few categories, like Blake Sea land, are pretty hard to come by. I've always understood LL's policy on this to be a way of putting land back into use. It doesn't earn them any money and it doesn't look great when it is just sitting there empty. So it seems like buying abandoned land is a win-win for both LL and the user. That said, the guidelines really are just guidelines rather than hard and fast rules. There is a lot of discretion on whether or not they will approve or deny a request or put a parcel up for auction rather than sell it to you. So I always approach it as a favor that they don't have to grant. I say please. I don't state the request as if it's a demand that I'm entitled to. I follow the guideline by mentioning if I own a parcel in the region. And at the end of the transaction, I always say thank you to whichever Linden I've interacted with. That's mostly a matter of just doing my best to be good people. But, when you work in customer service, things like that can be a big deal. I also tell LL a bit about what I plan to do with the parcel I'm asking to buy. I don't really know, but I would imagine that they are less interested in selling to a land baron who is going to flip it and immediately sell it to someone else a much higher price. I've always had the impression that they want people to buy abandoned land so that those people will actually use it. So I don't say much, but I do put in a sentence or two saying that I'd like to buy this parcel to expand my dock, or to build a river, or whatever else. I have heard that LL considers disciplinary records when deciding whether to grant or deny a request to buy abandoned land. That wouldn't surprise me. So if you've ever been banned from the forums or the grid, that could be a factor against you. Again, I don't know, but I would not be surprised at all if LL looked at what people do with the land they already have. I have heard stories of Lindens popping into large parcels in particular to have a look see. If that's the case, I would guess that they probably would favor aspiring buyers who use things in a community friendly way. In the land that I buy, I try to build pleasant--even beautiful--environments that make the surroundings nicer. In one spot, I am one of several buyers who tend to buy land as it becomes available largely just for preservation purposes to keep it beautiful and open for others to use. My parcels are always, without exception, open to visitors, so there are never ban lines or security orbs to keep everybody else out. If someone is causing me problems, I will ban them individually. I don't think I have anyone banned on any of my parcels at the moment. You're welcome to have a look at an example of the type of thing I'm talking about my current construction project here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Koss/124/240/129 I own almost 15,000 m² on that region. It probably does not hurt that when I bought much of it (as abandoned land), I was using a large chunk of it as a community holiday land. I set it up as a place where anyone could come, join a group just long enough to rez some holiday decor that brought them a bit of joy for the holiday season, and then leave if they wished. I plan on doing the same during the upcoming holiday season unless something happens to prevent me from still owning the land at that time. Another project at the back of my mind is to build a community center somewhere to use it as a venue for a mixture of different types of events— parties, exhibits, etc. But I haven't found the right place yet or really figured out exactly what it is that I will plan to do there. if you do stop by, please do say hi in an IM or just walk over and say hi if I am on the property. And definitely don't forget to feed the ducks. 🙂 So these are my thoughts on the subject of buying abandoned land. Sorry for the length.

Well, probably this really belongs in another thread. But I have always figured that I am basically making a request for a favor when I asked them to sell me abandoned land. So I am really nice about it. And I also expect that they would prefer people to own and use the land rather than just flip it and sell it for profit. I'm always buying it to use it, so I tell them what I'm going to do with it. For example, one sailable abandoned land parcel I bought recently, I said was for a dock extension. And when they sold it to me I did indeed extend my dock and use it for additional boat docking space.

I typically get some excellent mainland parcels for about $1L by buying abandoned land. It's pretty easy to do with a little patience. No need to have land bordering the parcel and so on like many people believe. That information is years outdated at this point. To me that's the big problem with these or any Linden homes. Why take one of those when land is so cheap? I suppose it avoids a lot of time and effort involved in setup. So there is a convenience factor for sure.

The new Linden homes looks pretty nice. I probably would want a houseboat and I have a sneaking suspicion those will be the most in demand. It sounds great to have the new continent connecting two of the big continents as well! But my big worry is the security orbs and the ban lines. Existing protected passages tend to be so narrow that it's difficult to drive through in a car without hitting some ban line. If you are flying or in a boat? Forget it. That is a huge factor that discourages use of mainland parcels. The benefit of the mainland is it's a bunch of space put together to travel over. But if you can't . . . what's the point? So yay! for connecting continents and nice houses. I hope there will be enough protected space to actually travel over the newly connected continents easily.

One parcel sold. One still available. A 1024m^2 parcel for $L3000. Remaining parcel here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hae An/218/186/55 Nice, flat land with access to protected road Route 9.

I have a pair of adjacent 1024m parcels for sale in Jeogeot. Both parcels adjoin protected Linden Road Route 9. If you are a premium member, you can buy one and have it as a home with no tier cost. Or combine them to form a single 2048m parcel. Location is here: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Hae An/215/176/55 I am not a high volume seller. This is actually my first time ever selling any of my land. 🙂 Please contact me in world with any questions.

I totally misread this so my reply didn’t make sense so I deleted it. Sorry!

This is definitely a purchase of abandoned land. You can tell because the parcel name is a date and an avatar name. Also, it is for sale by a Linden. The price is $1L per meter and it is set for sale to a specific avatar. It has not been purchased by that avatar yet If it were an auction, then the land would be purple on the map and you wouldn’t see it for sale to a specific avatar. Also, the bit about needing to have land on the sim to make a case to buy abandoned land is widely believed, but it is information that is outdated by at least a year or two. The policy has changed and the current LL Policy is stated here: Basically, LL tries to give priority to abandoned land buyers who already own land in the region. But anyone can buy abandoned land and LL will usually sell it to them directly. LL putting it up for auction instead seems pretty rare. And I’ve never known that priority issue to come up, though I suppose it could if two people wanted the same parcel and one hand land in the region and the other did not. Hope this helps!

There are some land sellers who charge inflated and ridiculous prices for all land parcels. I recommend just not doing business with them. SL abandoned land is cheap, abundant, and easy to buy as long as you don’t mind waiting a few days for LL to respond to you. And you can almost always find something as nice or nicer that way.

For this type of issue, you need to consult your own legal counsel, not this forum. Probably the answer depends on considering factors related to the terms of use associated with the object in question, the TOS for SL, and the law in your local jurisdiction.

There are a bazillion boats out there, most made for only two people to be aboard at once. I’m looking for a sail boat that has a large passenger/crew capacity so that I can bring larger groups of people out sailing with me. Bonus points if the boat is a decent racer in any category. Right now I have my eye on the Bandit 55 or Bandit 60, but I am wondering if anyone else out there knows a good sail boat with a large passenger capacity? Plus it looks like there hasn’t been a sailing thread in a log time, so time to have one. 🙂

Yup, I misspoke. It was definitely ban lines, but I should not have said it sent me all the way home. The minimal is hugely useful for navigating, but the problem is, it doesn’t show that a parcel has ban lines until you are pretty much on top of it. And even then, it often doesn’t show anything if the ban lines are on a different sim, like where these were. I do have one myself but I don't use it often though, I find it to be rather slow. I use it mostly to find places to rezz a vehicle. If you are using the Firestorm viewer you can make parcel borders visible in the mini map as an alternative. Personally I prefer that over the HUD, it gives a more detailed view and is faster, just assume every parcel has banlines raised and you will be fine I am using Firestorm and I’ve had parcel borders shown probably for a year without having even turned them off once. I find them useful for sailing, driving, and many other things as well. Unfortunately, Linden rivers and canals and such, like we are talking about here, are very narrow and it is difficult to keep yourself within them without stepping ever so slowly over the line. Even more so when there is a sim crossing involved, as in this case. And even more so when there is a curve involved, as was also true in this case. That’s true with road vehicles like cars. But even more so with vehicles like boats and planes that do not travel on a solid surface and tend to deal with drifting and inertia. So the net result is that basically we can (and do) try, but ban lines can make tight spaces essentially impassable. I own a parcel near Mare Secundus and I go boating there all the time. But I never use the most direct route because it passes through a tight spot with a sharp curve. Even when I slow down to less than one knot, it’s very difficult to make it through without hitting the ban lines. And it’s a whole lot easier to just go around it.

Recently, I bought my first waterfront land in many years. It's on a river near the Mare Secundus. And yesterday I decided to go take a trip all the way down to the coastal areas around the snowland subcontinent. And so I set forth. I journed across the Mare Secundus and proceeded into the perilous straits of unnamed to the Sea of Fables. I passed through the perilous river of whatever it is to Ice Bay. And south I went to another lake whose name I don't know. And as I entered the strait heading further south, I came to a sim crossing. I bravely continued on seeing no hazard. And as soon as I crossed the sim crossing, I immediately was in an area with ban lines with no warning whatsoever. I got instantly ejected back to my home. So much for a long trip. Almost finished and then ruined very close to the destination. There used to be a HUD used to warn of ban lines that could help avoid them. But it doesn't seem to exist anymore. Does anyone know of tools that would help deal with the ban line plague? They needn't be sailing specific since all who travel in vehicles on the mainland seem to have the same kind of problem. I run into it when I drive my car too, for example.

Well, to answer the original posters necro question, I think the reason for those who hate furries is simple jealousy. If I did not have such a cute, fluffy tail, I'd probably be jealous too. 🙂 On a more serious note . . . it's not like it was in the old days. The furry hate is a lot less these days. Most people have figured out that we are just people and not some kind of weird fetish and such. There are still haters out there. And, for some reason, a lot of people seem to feel like one of the big benefits of land ownership is the right to exclude others. Some do it via ban lines or orbs. Others do it via rules on not allowing some people in.

Too much sanity may be insanity!

I’m searching for M rated land on the top of a mountain. Not a plateau. Not a small hill. And not the side of a mountain. It must be the top. The size desired is between 1024 and 3072 m^2. The fewer ban lines, security orbs, and pollution in the view, the more I am willing to pay. Minimum altitude is 200m, but one of the super tall 300m mountains would be cool. Anybody out there interested in selling something like that?

I see this quite a lot on the mainland. Someone buys a parcel. They set it for sale at a ridiculous price (like 100,000L for a 512m plot that is not at all special) and then they build on it and use it like any other plot. In a few cases, I’ve seen such land be for rent, so I suppose it was a way to advertise. But in most cases, it’s not an ad at all. What is that about?

Looking for Christmas lights and decor in SL? There's a Christmas display setup by me, my neighbors, and the SL community right here. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Koss/81/77/119 Please do check it out and feel free to join in (although the snow may pose building/rezzing challenges). Anyone know of other big Christmas displays in world? I'd love to check them out. When I was little, my parents would take me through the neighborhood to see the Christmas lights. Would love to do the same with Christmas decor in SL.

This gift just happens to be where I spend a great deal of my time in SL these days. That made the clue pretty easy to figure out. It took me 30 seconds to find it and 25 of those were spent flying from where I was when I looked at the blog post with the clue. Please do say hi if you are in the area. And do take some time to look around. There are spots all over the surrounding area that are just gorgeous. I own an expanding land area in the region and I really love it. I also use part of it for public, community display that is open now. I also don't know where else to post this, but I would like to thank LL and the mole team for some truly fabulous prizes on this hunt. Just perfect for the season. And, unlike most hunts, the prizes have been very useful pretty much immediately given what time of year it is.

Is that protected water? Do the structures come with it? Signed, A fellow snow lander