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2 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:
Yes, should being the key word. It does not say must or required as it does in Belli.
Ah yes. In addition to the trying to claim they are all special and the rule doesn’t mean anything, I forgot the people who try to nitpick about it and claim it’s not really a rule. Last time I went to a user group meeting and raised this with LL, they agreed it was a rule. Back then they were actually enforcing it as well.
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7 hours ago, Codex Alpha said:
Yep, my account is due up pretty soon, and I'm making a decision about it soon. I've commented before in other topics, how it seems I'm paying more, but for less service and access - and so it's increasingly becoming harder to warrant the Premium sub each year unless real value is added.
I currently have three premium accounts. At least some of them will not be renewed because of the situation with orbs and such. The premium fee is a tiny item in my budget, frankly. But I am tired of funding LL’s refusal to address the situation.
The great thing about SL is there really is something for everyone. LL says it’s supposed to be a community oriented, social space. But there is ample space for misanthropes who don’t want to participate in that. Just not in the middle of everybody else where their antisocial actions are disruptive. That’s the thing about community. One persons actions always affect others. And it’s always about more than just “me me me me me.”
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7 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
There is no such rule on mainland. The rule applies to Belliseria only.
Sigh. Incorrect. The rule in Bellisseria is 15 seconds. You’ll find LL’s explanation of what scripted objects should/should not do elsewhere here under the heading “script use.”
Among other things, the general rule is that scripted objects should “Provide adequate warning to the undesired Resident.” Typically the orb crowd likes to argue that all of them are exceptions to the general rule for some unexplained reason or that no warning at all is “adequate,” which effectively deletes the requirement. No point in having written it if it’s a nonexistent requirement.
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I formerly owned a couple of airports, a preserve in the snow lane where I held holiday events for the entire grid, and a few other things that I did mostly in hopes of positively contributing to the community. I finally discontinued all of that because I got tired of the way that some people feel like they should have a right to plop themselves down in the middle of the community and make themselves a disruption by teleporting home anyone who dares to set a virtual toe across the borderline. It’s kinda like if I bought my home in real life and setup a surface to air missile battery to shoot down any plane that dares to overfly my property. I’ve not yet heard any such a person even attempt to justify why that is a positive contribution to the grid as a whole. But it sure does inhibit exploration and, as a result, use of the places I spent a lot of money in for people to enjoy.
LL has said in the past that it wants the grid to be a social, welcoming environment. And the current interest in the metaverse is a huge opportunity for LL to capitalize because Second Life is basically the most developed metaverse around. But doing that means a certain degree of caretaking and cultivation of community.
At this point, LL has a rule requiring adequate warning for security orbs. The last I heard, it was refusing to enforce that rule. LL has seen the benefits that came from enforcing that type of rule in terms of building community. And it should have a major, major incentive to want to cultivate community right now when the multiverse is such a big thing. Why in the world would you want to build in where newbies come in, wander around, and greeting by a hostile blue popular and then get bounced out? Talk about a good reason to not login again
If LL’s desire to have community is limited to words not backed by any action, then I don’t see why I should be paying them for the privilege of trying to combat their own apathy as I strive to contribute to the community they claim to want. So I quit paying the several hundred dollars that I was paying LL every month in an effort to contribute. People have indeed been discussing this since at least when I made my first account (July 2006) and LL needs to address and solve the problem.
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On 11/8/2021 at 10:51 AM, Prokofy Neva said:
I think you may find later upon reflection that normal criticism of a venture you chose to make public in a way that others felt threatened by will come to be seen as both legitimate and also unimportant.
Well, unimportant. But come on. I'm giving a tribute to the people who built Campbell Coast. I know some people have chosen to spread some things that aren't true about it, but meh. Who cares? It's a tribute. Some of the people involved in that are still involved in the new Campbell Coast and they are on the receiving end of a real compliment. Not everybody has people building tributes to their work. But okay. Whomever is so upset about my love for the original CC, I guess I'm really sorry for loving it so much that I paid tribute to the people who made it.
On 11/8/2021 at 10:51 AM, Prokofy Neva said:If you do log in, put out a tip jar so people can donate.
There is a tip jar on the second floor! In fact, it's the tip grammy I used for my DJ sets at Campbell Coast! But the script is deactivated so it doesn't accept tips.
I'm really grateful for the support. But the truth is that this small parcel doesn't impose any additional costs on me because I had the tier space free. And I honestly don't want people's money. Just come and enjoy some fond memories. 🙂 In fairness, though, knowing that people appreciate it does give me a little motivation to actually get off my rear and do some more work on it while I've got some time on my hands.
On 11/8/2021 at 10:51 AM, Prokofy Neva said:You did one extremely important thing already: you put up a map. This is very important because obviously land changes, the concept of the community changes, etc. but you have it recorded in an actual map of that time. And you already have some artifacts and stories. So just keep going. You might consider at this early stage to swap out the building -- it's taking up too many prims.
Therein lies the whole point. I'm glad you get it. This isn't about putting anybody down. This is about tribute to something that was really magnificent and special and a gift to the whole community! It's supposed to be full of happy memories and a tribute to the people who made it. I don't see why anybody should find it threatening. But, if anybody does, they can certainly talk to me about it. Or they can keep being upset. I did finally notice today that somebody purchased a ring of land around the museum and banned me from it just so I'd be surrounded by banned land, so I guess somebody's upset. Maybe I'll get upset about it once I'm done laughing.
As far as the building goes, it's one of the original Campbell Coast structures. Since the whole point of the museum is to pay tribute to that original Campbell Coast, I think I'm going to keep it. Replacing it with something else would defeat the point. even if it is a bit primmy. But I really do appreciate the thought!
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18 hours ago, Owl Dragonash said:
Those of us who love Campbell Coast have put in a lot of time and energy your welcome to come visit.
It's unfortunate and sad how many people who loved Campbell Coast, who put a lot of time and energy into making it what it was are now not even acknowledged and are sometimes dismissed as a bunch of freeloaders. I think that much of what drives some of the ongoing tension about Campbell Coast is a simple disagreement over what Campbell Coast is.
Is it the place? Well, that still exists. The land is there. It's still named "Campbell Coast."
Is it the community? The vibe? The arts? Well, in that case, like you said:
18 hours ago, Owl Dragonash said:The Village of art galleries in the sky is still there yes with less artists but ya know free vs renting even when cheap.
Fewer artists. Many performers gone. Many of the quirky characters who made the place what it was now gone, including people who were asked to stay. And I think that dissing those people because as just not wanting to pay cheap rent is disrespectful to them and dishonest. I think we both know that many would have paid much more if things they valued were preserved.
As you say, "communities evolve." That's only natural. But change makes for . . . well, change. Things are no longer what they once were. People come and go. The spirit of the place changes. And if you were a part of it because you loved the people and the community spirit and the art, then something has been lost.
The loss doesn't just show up by people being, as you say, "angry" or moving on. It shows up in the vacant galleries. It shows in that Campbell Coast is now a much smaller "huge and sprawling" area than it once was. And it shows in threads on the community forums like this one in which people are sad because they see something being lost. And I guess it would not be shrinking if it had continued to draw as many people who were willing to donate their time and--yes--their money.
I suppose it's equally possible that some people have gained something by the changes. After all, if it does draw a different crowd, then it stands to reason that the people who come as part of that different crowd must feel like they have something to gain by being there.
In fairness, I think the fact that people do feel like something is lost is quite a compliment to what BJoy, Doc, Owl, and Kitty did in the first place. I hope they can recognize the fact that they did something good and that people appreciated and valued it. If no one valued it, no one would be sad now.
(I guess that I have to make a potential conflict of interest disclosure here so that my words can be properly judged: I was asked to stay with my photo gallery and my DJ show, but I declined to do it. As I made clear at the time, I was not willing to stay at a low price. I was not willing to stay for free. I was not willing to stay even if they paid me to stay. I had offered to pay the previous ownership multiple times, but I just didn't want to be a part of what I saw coming.)
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On 11/1/2021 at 11:28 PM, Jolly Nova said:
With Campbell Coast selling tons of land and abandoning a lot of it, this museum is now more important than ever.
Between a car accident that happened about the same time I made the announcement that continues to mess with my upper body, and the attacks, both verbal and griefing, I have to admit it’s become a much more difficult thing for me to invest in and actually finish building. I’ve got a ton of artifacts from the original CC. Far more than I can fit in the museum, frankly, thanks to the support of others. But I’ve also got arms that I need for doing the work that aren’t in great shape and I’m discouraged. I guess in that latter regard, that’s kinda the point because so are many others. The museum is meant as a tribute to what BJoy and Doc did that was beloved by so many. And I guess the memory is all the more important. Now if I could just spend more than a brief time doing stuff in SL without my arms gettin inflamed from wrist to shoulder . . . .
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17 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:
The problem with artists and creative people in general is that basically at root they think commerce is crass, in poor taste, ugly, and generally the province of greedy, grasping land barons. And then they get their wish, because they couldn't take the financial cost of "it's all about the people" seriously.
Come on. I gave you a pass on the blatant sexism last time around. Seriously? You're writing this to one of those "artists and creative people in general" who has spent the last few years as a funding source for two major airports on the grid, among other things? Who do you think has been paying for that? Not the land barons. Me. Out of my own pockets. Apparently I can't take "the financial cost of 'it's all about the people' seriously" because I . . . have paid hundreds per month in tier costs and land rental fees to keep these places going so that people in SL could use them.
Sounds like there's some learning to be done about the "artists and creative people in general". Apparently we creative types who pay the bills do know something about the money end of things.
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I'm drawing a different lesson here and I'm trying very hard here to stay a reasonable observer and avoid attacking some people who have attacked me. It's hard sometimes, but attacking others isn't what I'm about and I don't want to get myself in trouble either. 🙂 But the lesson I see here is that you can be about community. Or you can be about money. It's very difficult to do both.
To me, Campbell Coast was about the people. The community. BJoy and Doc had made a point of inviting in creatives and people that they thought would make it a more desirable place and basically sponsored them to be there because the people made it a more valuable contribution to the grid and a place where more people would want to be. The result of this was to create a place where you could come and just expect to have a good time. We had goofy, eccentric events like Bingo 'n' Beans. And if people came to Campbell Coast, they quickly found out they were coming to a fun, happy place where they'd laugh a lot. It was a lot like the early days of Bellisseria when everyone and anyone wanted to be part of Bellisseria specifically because of the fun and the sense of community. In fact, it was a lot of the same people, including a certain evil cat.
When ownership changed, Campbell Coast became about money above all. There's nothing morally wrong with making money. But it meant a lot of people left. Many of those silly events were terminated. People who had been invited in because their presence would be a draw to others suddenly found themselves treated like unimportant folks. Just another source of Lindens in someone's pocket. Lots of hard feelings were created very quickly. This turned love into pain and a source of conflict. People with connections among one another and to the place quit. That meant the end of the community. The hard feelings meant that what had been a joy was turned into a wound and a source of conflict. I know for a fact that friendships have ended among people who found themselves on opposite sides of turning Campbell Coast into a for profit venue. And when the people left and the joy turned to a wound, Campbell Coast was basically dead. Sure the build might exist. The name was still on the regions. But the people, the community, and everything else that made it what it was had ended.
When people got hurt by Campbell Coast, they stopped loving it. And that's bad for business and for making profit because all those people who were walking out the door were the customers and the people who created a reason for customers to pay to be there.
What replaced it seems to have been just another club and shopping mall like many that populate the grid. What made it special? What made it different? Nothing that I can see. There are plenty of nice builds, frankly. And the lack of something to make it different from every other place just like it is also not good for business. It leaves customers with no reason to choose *this* business over any other.
I know a lot of people say that it *had* to become about money because no one would pay for it. Yet there are people who have taken over parts of the original at their own expense. I know there are a lot of people who will pay big bucks to keep community spots open for the good of the rest of the grid because I've been one such person for a long time. So when you tell me that such people do not exist, you are telling me that I don't exist.
Moreover, there are middle grounds where people could have been asked to help pay more of the cost without going all out full land baron stereotype.
I think this is the beginning of the end of Campbell Coast. Soon there will be little or nothing that remains. As a person who loved Campbell Coast, that makes me sad. But . . . well . . . I think many of us saw that coming. I'm not sure what to do with the Campbell Coast Museum I set up either. I set it up as a tribute to BJoy and Doc, but some people have chosen to see it as something else and it has sustained attacks as a result, as have I. Those attacks are another example of how love turns to pain and ruins what something was meant to be.
All things considered, it's just a sad thing to see happen. Campbell Coast is a real loss to the entire grid.
(Full disclosure: I was one of those creatives and community people who was asked to be part of it. After the ownership change, I was asked to stay, but to pay a nominal rent. I was there to support BJoy, Doc, and my other friends. I'd have happily paid BJoy and Doc ten times more than I was asked to pay after the ownership change and had offered to do so. But I wasn't interested in being a part of someone's commercial, profit-making project, and especially not in having my art used that way.).
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I have performed at Campbell Coast. I have exhibited there. I have attended events there. I’ve had tons of friends I hung out with there. It’s really sad to see what has happened. But I think all of us should be thankful to BJoyful and Doc Rast for what they created for us. Campbell Coast was something truly special.
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Located in the snow lands overlooking frozen Lake Zermatt, the snow leopard preserve is for sale! This is a 27,376 sqm parcel. Surrounding land owners have kept the mainland blights of sky pollution, security orbs, and ban lines to a much lower level than most of the grid, resulting in a much better experience than so many places. This has also been the site for the annual SL community holiday festival for the last three years running. It is one of the best places on the mainland that I have ever seen.
Asking price: $3.7L per sqm
Location: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Koss/87/89/122
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For the first time since Bellisseria's very early days, the Evil Cat (me) has given up her Bellisseria house and is no longer in a Bellisseria group. I have no more meaningful involvement with Bellisseria and no plans to return, but you never know, right?
But of course we had a lot of fun. And I don't want to leave the building without thanking everyone for that. So many thanks to everyone. I hope the evil cat antics entertained everyone. 🙂
You might see me at an event now and then, but that's about it.
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On 9/21/2021 at 10:46 AM, Qie Niangao said:
Mainland itself is a very different situation now, with ancient orb-worship an entrenched religion of believers in the god-given property rights of pixels. If intrusive parcel and script settings were no longer available on Mainland, of course Estates could fill the demand, but I'd fear more than a few folks would just quit SL land ownership altogether, out of spite.
The same people with the same "me me me" attitudes complained about the restrictions on Bellisseria. Then they wrote posts in the forums thanking LL for those same restrictions hen they realized the situation benefited them. If past is prologue, that seems to bode well . . . but of course there's uncertainty and you could be right and I could be wrong.
On 9/21/2021 at 10:46 AM, Qie Niangao said:- I don't recall the whitelist banline ever being other than 50m Above Ground Level. I vaguely recall the explicit "blacklist" bans extending upwards from 768 to 4096m when the build height was raised, but I'm not real sure about that history.
When I created my first account in July 2006, it was at 4096. I became a good customer of Cubey Terra's planes and a frequent flyer at Abbott's Aerodrome back when it was the main center of SL aviation. Then, alas, I gave up. It was just too problematic that no matter how high I flew or no matter where I went, I'd run into the ban lines.
Past is prologue . . . and now we have the same issue, but it's with orbs in place of ban lines. Even worse because keeping someone off your land is one thing. Teleporting my avatar without my permission is something else. What happened to this whole issue of people having the right to control what they pay for? I pay a few hundred per month and I don't get to control my own avatar?On 9/21/2021 at 10:46 AM, Qie Niangao said:- It's possible that further development enabled by the cloud migration could make it much less expensive to run sparsely-populated regions. No idea where that may stand on the priority list for server development.
Well, the above is actually #2 on your list, but when I quoted it, the forum system changed the number. Just wanted to say that your point seems logical. After all, wasn't cost cutting the whole point of the move? But even so, the cost can't be zero for those abandoned regions. And zero does seem to be the income from them.
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1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:
I'm pretty sure, though, there used to be some enforcement against hair-trigger orbs. Not sure when we heard about it, but I'd guess sometime around when Zindra was created, and the reported penalty was only return of the scripts with a warning; I don't recall anybody saying a suspension was involved.
Yup. I've personally reported zero warning orbs that got removed. Now LL doesn't seem to do it. Kinda strange to say, "hey, you shouldn't do it, but awwww it's okay if you do."
1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:Somebody should go to Governance (or Concierge?) user group to see what the Lindens actually think the Mainland policy even is now. I'd be surprised if there's agreement (and more surprised if they agreed that zero-warning kick-bans were just fine).
At one point there was a group of us that came together to talk to Linden Labs by doing exactly this. At one of the usergroup meetings I personally went to, the Lindens present were surprised to learn there was any policy at all. One of the big successes of this group seemed to be Bellisseria's orb restrictions in that Belli opened without them, they were then imposed, and Belli proved to be a massive success for what LL told us they wanted the whole of SL to be--a friendly, social space. And, incidentally, something that made people pay up for premium memberships.
1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:As I usually post to these threads, it's far too late now to establish a meaningful "right to roam" policy for Mainland, but that once upon a time it would have made LL a lot of money over the years to limit the more restrictive access features (whitelist banlines, llTeleportAgentHome) so they'd operate only on Estates. For one thing, the pretend-privacy aficionados and proprietors of animatronic brothels, etc., would be paying slightly more for Estate fees than for Mainland tier, and more interestingly, Mainland would have been as visitor-welcoming as Bellisseria which has proven a very big draw (and, I'd suggest, not only for vehicle users).
I disagree. Again, Bellisseria was opened without any restrictions. And then the restrictions were added after. The same could be done on the rest of mainland. In fact, some might remember the old days when banlines reached up to the max build height of 4096m. Nowadays they only go above 50m above ground level. That was a massive improvement introduced later.
Moreover, all of the abandoned mainland costs LL money to maintain, but it doesn't generate any revenue. If I were LL, I'd be very interested in getting some income from all that abandoned land. Making mainland attractive would help a lot and the way it is now obviously isn't working. In fact, we see that private estates and the handful of mainland areas with restrictions on orb abuse and ban lines are the places that are actually generating $$$.
Of course, the cost of enforcing the policy is an issue. We know that LL has found it laborious and expensive to enforce in Bellisseria. But having a uniform grid wide policy would be a heck of a lot easier and less expensive for LL to enforce. Orb makers would release updates that complied with the policy thereby replacing many non-compliant ones. Non-compliant orbs could be removed by automated gridwide search and removal tools just as has been done in the past with other griefing tools, IP infringing objects, etc. in the past. After all, if LL can ban gachas, there's no reason they can't ban other things. It's just a matter of choosing.And, of course, I'm one person who is cutting my mainland holdings and the amount that I pay LL per month directly because of ban lines and security orbs. I'm certainly not running out of funds to pay tier. But I'm choosing to cut down on it because I don't want to pay for the experience and I'm tired of spending hundreds of USD per month to support things that are meant to be found by explores when LL does not provide a place to explore. I know I'm not the only one. And when people start cutting things they create for the community, that means the whole community loses. Not just LL.
Which brings us back to that point about people advocating for making SL a better place for all versus people whose perspective is limited to "me me me" and nothing more.
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11 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
There has never been such a policy on mainland. The above quote you mentioned said scripts should and not scripts must. Wording is important.
If the only thing you can find to disagree with in all that I said is to quibble over interpreting one word, then I am gratified that we already agree on so much.
Then there’s the people who like to say it uses the word generally and they—and everyone else—is an exception to the general rule that should get an exception.
The other favorite for those who promote ban line and security orb abuse is to argue that it only requires “adequate warning” and no notice at all is adequate, therefore the requirement to provide adequate warning actually doesn’t require providing any warning at all. Which means basically it’s a line of text that may as well not exist. And it states a requirement that doesn’t actually require anything. Not very sensible, but it’s what the ban line/orb people say.
But the thing I’ve always found especially galling is the difference in morality. We have some people whose whole perspective is “my land, I do whatever I want.” Then we have people who want to make SL a better place for everyone. Selfishness vs. responsibility I suppose.
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Another interesting, related question would be why do people who own multiple parcels get rid of them? Apart from money issues, I mean.
For myself, I'm gradually downsizing. A lot of it has to do with frustration over ban line and orb abuse. What's the point of keeping things open for others to use when others can't really get there? Another part of it has to do with my own getting busier in real life. And still another part has to do with just feeling burned by the SL community.
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At the last SLB, Patch said LL would not be further restricting ban lines or security orbs on the mainland because they want the mainland to be free, accessible, and travelable or words to that effect. I'm not sure how that makes sense at all given that the ban lines and security orbs prevent exactly those things from happening.
What I can say is that I've been funding a forest in the snowlands overlooking Lake Zermatt, two airports, a marina, and a museum, all of which are kept open for everyone free of charge with no ban lines. The freedom, accessibility, and travelableness of the mainland enabled by all these banlines and orbs makes it very difficult for people to even get to those places. And I've been very frustrated about it for a long time. Especially since LL no longer seems to be enforcing the policy against zero warning orbs quoted above.
At this point I've started downsizing and I'm not sure when I'll quit. But I am tired of paying hundreds of USD to LL per month so I can provide free things for people when people can't easily travel there and use them. And I'm tired of feeling confined to my own land because I can't wander outside of it without risking somebody's orb teleporting me home with no warning at all. I'm trying to move what I get rid of into the hands of people who will continue them on . . . but the bottom line is that the ban line and orb abuse so interferes with the experience that I'm no longer willing to pay for it as I have been. I'd imagine I'm not alone. So I'd imagine some of the spots I've kept open and funded for the benefit of everyone will be disappearing over the next few months. Maybe to be replaced by parcels surrounded by ban lines and zero warning security orbs. I'd probably keep things open if it were not so difficult to travel around the mainland.
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1 hour ago, BJoyful said:
A new owner is a drastic change and we certainly hope all will turn out for the best when the dust settles... and a Museum dedicated to the process and to many treasured memories is a wonderful and positive thing! Certainly we will have some funny photos and memories to contribute and we're sure @Female Winslet will be a great curator of the community's museum. Without Museums we may forget our history and be forever doomed to repeatedly fail instead of progressing. ♥
I will do my best! Thank you to you and to everyone else for the encouraging words! I much appreciate them!
1 hour ago, Prokofy Neva said:You really should write as much of this down as you can now because it is invaluable history and help to others! I know you have to budget your time strictly but maybe just speak on to a tape and edit it later.
I've thought about asking Joy and Doc if they'd write a history of Campbell Coast for the museum. I don't want to ask too much . . . but it would be cool at some point if it's not too much trouble. 🙂
1 hour ago, Prokofy Neva said:The sea front sim is now an airport. This mystifies me. Are airports a thing? I mean, I see bunches of them defacing the gorgeous Blake Sea coast, but I guess you can rent slips out? Or maybe sell the planes themselves, which of course are cool.
SL has had an active and sizable aviation community for quite a long time. Due to the widespread abuse of security orbs that put up a bunch of pop-ups and interrupt flights by teleporting people home with little or no notice, most SL aviators tend to fly mainly or exclusively over protected water. For the same reason, airports and other aviation facilities tend to also be right adjacent to the coast. It also avoids situtions where people who buy land near the airport in the takeoff or landing path and setup ban lines or orbs that prevent the airport that was there before from operating. There have been issues of that.
Still, the waterfront need not be ugly. I like to think we've done well at making White Star look nice from the sea. 🙂 Not that I'm responsible. I'm one of the owners, but did not design or build it.-
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I own land mainly to keep things of value open to the community. I have:
- A small marina that provides a rezzing area with space for helicopters and boats near Mare Secundus;
- A large area in Koss setup as a nature preserve with old buildings overlooking Lake Zermatt in the snowlands, which also becomes a community holiday celebration area from Thanksgiving through the New Year;
- Two airports (one I co-own, the other I own outright); and
- A museum I'm launching for a much beloved art colony that is still in existence in name, but most of the community and the artists have left.
Apart from my own house in Bellisseria, that's the main stuff. It's all open to the public and intended for the public to enjoy. No ban lines and no security orbs. A ban is a pretty rare thing.
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Campbell Coast was an art colony near and dear to many of us. I had the first ever photography exhibition in my life there and did DJ sets. Many others were artists, performers, renters, and community members. I am eternally thankful to the original ownership for giving me that opportunity as it turned out to be the first of an increasing number of photography jobs in my real life.
While Campbell Coast still exists, a change in ownership has made it a different place and resulted in many people choosing to move on. Change is inevitable, of course, and people do move on. That's just life.
But I'd like to see that community spirit memorialized and, ideally, continued before the original community of people evaporates and becomes too difficult to find. So, I've managed to acquire an original piece of the Campbell Coast real estate. I'm preserving as much of it as I can in its original condition and using it to start a Campbell Coast Museum in honor of the original place. I've also arranged to acquire an original Campbell Coast building to house it in. And even the land description info is being preserved as close as possible to the original.
All who have been a part of the original Campbell Coast are invited to be involved! Some already are! You can contribute items from the original Campbell Coast. Props from events. Photos of events. Anything you find significant from the original Campbell Coast is welcome. Also, people who are not yet involved are welcome to join the Campbell Coast Museum in world. We might even try to bring back some of the old events if people are so inclined.
Please contact me with any questions. You can find the museum parcel here.
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Laserlight/178/166/150
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Wow. Honestly I thought Riot Hax was the slenderman. I am wrong! Wow. Well done! And as one of the Bellisseria characters myself . . . may I just say thank you for adding to the personality and color within the Bellisseria community and for being another character who has entertained us all?
P.S. You are still not a more evil cat because you are not a cat. 🙂
P.P.S. Even though I'm evil, I hope your life improves and gets better. I'm sorry it has taken some rough turns. 😞
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In fairness, many things in SL are rather petty. Parcel bans, for example. I've been given lifetime bans by people I've never even met. Once in a while they post things in their land description to make clear they are mad at me for an opinion I stated on these forums--usually for saying something needs to be done about orb and ban line abuse. Other times I have no clue who the person is or why my name is on their ban list.
I hate to say it, but why should retail transactions be any exception?
SL is a community full of all kinds of people. That's part of what makes it so great. Most people are pretty decent. But unfortunately, some people are petty jerks. That includes merchants too. I just wish we had better means of addressing it when people cross lines beyond being merely petty jerks.
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The Evil Cat just saw a Bellisseria Slenderman walk past on the relay track.
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I was surprised to hear of Ebbe's passing. We all lost someone who was important to us today. I really don't know what to say beyond that except to offer my condolences especially to the team at LL, as they probably knew him best and are probably even more saddened than the rest of us.
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1 second Orb timing, is it necessary
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Posted · Edited by Female Winslet
My point exactly. And the reason I’ve been cutting what I pay to LL over the last few months. As you say, actions do speak louder than words. And LL says they want to have a community. Their actions say otherwise. And I‘ve been voting with my $$$. I’m sure others will too.