SLAddict Allen

Ossian wrote: SLAddict Allen wrote: He made a lot of sense in this interview. This policy change doesn't give them any more power. They didn't even have to communicate these rules at all, they could have just enforced them. Thumbs up for communicating, and going the extra mile to explain. The only point that still makes me roll my eyes is about viewer bullying. Oz said that a lot of new people were leaving because they were told to try a new viewer and got frustrated with having to download different viewers. Therefore they felt it best to remove viewer tags. There are issues with that: 1) Does being recommended another viewer really constitute bullying? 2) So because we are trying to help other users by recommending a better experience, we are to blame for that feature dying? 3) How is one supposed to fathom how not having viewer tags will keep people from saying you shouldn't be using Viewer 3? 4) You would also not see these recommendations if, for example, V3 was up to par! Yet one more example of LL taking the easy road. What I got from it is that LL was looking to see where new people stopped using SL, and one was the point when older users told them "You need to download a different viewer." It doesn't matter HOW it was said, because just the idea confused and/or bothered the new users enough to make them leave and not come back. I got that too. New users got confused when told what to download and where to get it, and decided on their own accord to leave, and suddenly a feature is no good. Isn't giving more than once choice the whole point to the existance of TPVs? It just reeks of "We will only do so much with our viewer to improve it, so we are trying everything else to fix these other Open Development issues."

He made a lot of sense in this interview. This policy change doesn't give them any more power. They didn't even have to communicate these rules at all, they could have just enforced them. Thumbs up for communicating, and going the extra mile to explain. The only point that still makes me roll my eyes is about viewer bullying. Oz said that a lot of new people were leaving because they were told to try a new viewer and got frustrated with having to download different viewers. Therefore they felt it best to remove viewer tags. There are issues with that: 1) Does being recommended another viewer really constitute bullying? 2) So because we are trying to help other users by recommending a better experience, we are to blame for that feature dying? 3) How is one supposed to fathom how not having viewer tags will keep people from saying you shouldn't be using Viewer 3? 4) You would also not see these recommendations if, for example, V3 was up to par! Yet one more example of LL taking the easy road.

As said before try cranking up RenderVolumeLOD (I think thats the title) in debug settings. I have it set to 4.0. Most people will recommend that for proper viewing of sculpts as well.

Cummere Mayo wrote: 1) for the people worried that the adboards will be broken by some of these changes: Owners and creators of a script designed to show online function will still be able to have their status seen by the object. So store owners can still have a status indicator for customers. What about FULL STAFF boards? You know, ones that have the online status of all owners and employees of a business? I've seen boards with as much as 6 or more online statuses. They cannot be owned and created by 6 people.

Freya Mokusei wrote: Rayne Keynes wrote: People build things like online indicators to be used in clubs, land rental etc so that the OWNER of that business can indicate whether certain employees, dancers, customer service etc, are online or not,... and as such available to answer questions, help with issues etc,... by forcing the people who design these things to give/sell the script full perm so it can be copied into a script owned by/ created by the recipient, your effectively killing that business. Easy solution to this particular problem. Have a full perm script that is copied, which only includes the online/offline detection code. Enough of those are freebies that the bits given away in there won't hurt your IP. The small full-perm script then sends the online/offline detection to the limited permission, still secure, main script. Unfortunately this has nothing to do with IP. The online/offline detection is whats being broken.

Selene Gregoire wrote: Copybot viewers can display any TPV viewer tag they want to use if they know what they are doing. Up to and including an LL viewer tag. And if they don't know what they are doing, they just got help from LL.

greek Wingtips wrote: who in the thier right mind on one of the bussiest days of the year decided to do a maintenace on market place, OMG the person who made that desion should really go onto a bussiness course , crazy really crazy They did maintenance to fix problems that had already taken the site offline.

Phil Deakins wrote: Gadget Portal wrote: " One of the key goals of Linden Realms was to learn more about what tools Residents could use to develop richer experiences in Second Life — and boy, did we learn a lot! In Q1 2012 , we will be releasing new tools used to develop Linden Realms, which will allow Residents to create even richer original experiences in Second Life. To prevent abuse of these tools, we will introduce a "creators" program in which verified members will be given access to these very powerful capabilities." This is the part that worries me. Cutting off casual creators. I don't see it that way. If the new capabilites were simply additional features for building objects, e.g. in the Edit box, then I would agree with you. But, as far as I can tell, they are completely different, and could be used buy idiot kiddies to mess other people about. If that's the case, LL has three choices - (1) make it so that everyone can use them, (2) don't let anyone use them, and (3) be nice and let users use them but control who, so that idiots can't use them against other people. I prefer the third of those. For instance, if we didn't have flexiprims, and a new capability was flexiprims, then I would agree. It's just a building feature that everyone should be able to make use of, and I would be against it being restricted to some people but not others. But the new stuff was described as "powerful", which I take to mean something quite different to a mere building feature like flexiprims. Tools in the edit box have been used by idiot kiddies to mess with others for years. Restricting access to tools is NOT the answer.

Thanks Keli for giving us a space to comment. Shame on Rod for not doing so, but that LL's way of doing things. A few things stood out to me: I kind of like the "game within SL" approach. You can do everything else in SL, why not be able to play immersive games? Besides, SL is a platform, not a game itself. If this helps make people understand that, that'd be awesome to me. Thats about the only good thing, though. The creators program - yet another way LL is stroking the egos of certain users who call themselves "advanced" or "power" users, while leaving new users without the tools that put them on a level playing field. What a joke. The 16 (yes, SIXTEEN) percent adoption rate of Mesh - Rod BRAGGED about this number. Seriously. I couldn't make this up. Read it again. About the bug fixes, Rod says, and I quote: "this makes for a poor headline". No Rod, it does not. The bug fixes that are not out yet, or that didn't work, do however. "For landowners, existing land tier pricing will not go up in 2012" - A nice way of telling us a price decrease is nowhere in sight. Thanks for nothing. Less really is more. Slash the prices and you'll figure that out. Pathfinding: might be cool, but then so were the sim tours and hot air balloon rides ive been on for years.

dont scratch your head. really. my standards are pretty clean and simple. if the software works without any lag in version 1.23.5, and then 2.4 is loaded and lag is, and, no joke, 3-5 second response to movement events, and then you go back immediately to 1.23.5 and the lag is gone..then yes, its not ready for primetime. i assume there's some video card compatibility issues at play, but i'll wait around for a few more iterations of the software. Like Darien pointed out, this is likely to happen when switching viewers. New cache, and it possibly took you back to some default preferences as well, if you use custom ones in 1.23. Is the lag any worse after spending some time on it, logging out and starting multiple sessions? Or did you not bother to try that? Deleting your cache, uninstalling 1.23.5, and reinstalling 1.23.5 and launching it would likely give you similar results. Biggest reason you get no lag on 1.23.5 is because it has stuff stored in memory. A beta won't have that the first time you run it.