LXIX Tomorrow

I just thought this was worth revisiting, since I had a chance to talk to a lawyer, a real live honest to goodness lawyer, not someone who pretends to be a lawyer on SL. He confirmed what my bar owner friend told me about the law in this state, and made a couple of extra points. Basically, the state legislature here recognized the fact that the ASCAP and BMI where "double dipping", that is charging the venue and the performer for the exact same thing at the exact same time, that's called double dipping, and it's against the law. So they decided that they should mandate who pays, and since the venue owner stands to gain more, they decided that venue owners in this state will pay the fees, and not the performers, period. So then I asked him about this online thing that I do in a virtual world called Second Life, the first thing he said was "as long as your ass is sitting in this state when you log on, the laws of this state prevail and you don't have to pay, the venue owner pays". Then I explained how the game owner, Linden Labs, is in California but inside the game there are separate venue owners who operate under the confines of the game using virtual, or game, currency that can be converted to real currency. I also explained that the streams that we use are broadcast separately from SL and the individual venue owners allow that stream to be heard in their virtual locations. His off the cuff response was that Linden Labs controls what is or isn't allowed inside the game, so they would ultimately be considered the venue owner, but he also said that he would need to look into that a little further, and he charges $500 per hour, so that's where the legal advice ended. He did reiterate, that as long as my ass is sitting in this state, the performer does not pay, the venue owner (whoever that is) pays.

I did click your link, there's nothing there for me. I'm an individual performer, I play guitar and sing at other peoples venues, I don't push my own stream, there's no provision for that sort of thing on the website you provided. In the state where I live, for a very short time it was the performer's responsibility to make sure they weren't violating any copyright laws, but the state quickly turned that over and made it the venue owners responsibility. At one of the bars where I play, the owner only pays BMI, and she's gotten very good at recognizing which songs are covered by BMI and which are covered by someone else. She looks at my song list and says "you can't do that one, you can't do that one, all the rest are ok". My point is, in the real world, the venue owners pay, not me.

Yep, always right about everything ... your mommy must be sooooo proud.

Let me guess, you pretend to be a lawyer when you're logged into SL, am I right? Perhaps you didn't read the part where I said ... "we contacted BMI and ASCAP directly" ... hand over my heart, they laughed and said "don't worry about it". Jeeze, clearly you're one of those beautiful mind geniuses who's always right about everything ... good luck with that.

lol, I like they way you put it. Most of the time I contend that it's far easier to seek forgiveness than to seek permission, if they ever come after me, I'll gladly return all of the money I've ever made performing in SL ... I'm pretty sure I have that much in my wallet right now.

Their attitude about this may have changed eventually, but as a live performer who used to worry about this, we contacted BMI and ASCAP directly, and explained exactly what we were doing. In a nutshell, performing cover songs at a virtual venue in front of a live audience made up of avatars that have real people driving them and listening to our performances ... hand over my heart, they laughed and said "don't worry about it".

Well, I'm not a Chromium media developer, or any such thing, so I wouldn't have a clue how to quantify this in the grand scheme of things, but as far as SL is concerned, ... "it doesn't work". A little more specifically for SL, media textures don't work. What's worse, when ever there is an object with a media texture, TVs or otherwise, out in front of your camera, out to the maximum draw distance you have set, you get a dialogue box explaining that your media player cef plugin is not working and that it needs to be re-installed. When I log in at Nova Albion I get three such dialogue boxes before I rez, and they need to be dismissed before I can do anything else ... and then I'll get more. My quick and simple trouble shooting started with realizing that I didn't have the problem with the previous version, so I learned as much as I could about libmedia_plugin_cef.so, and offered the simple solution above. Another solution would be to rename the libmedia_plugin_cef.so in your SL lib folder to anything (so it doesn't exist), and let the OS use the one that's in your usr/lib folder, since it was provided by Google Chrome, and is likely correct. Personally I like the .so files to be in the folder that the app. is looking in, instead of defaulting to the system folder, it's quicker. And by the way @Lindal Kidd ... this is only Aisle One

It's back, with Firestorm 64_5.1.7.55786 on Linux ... and by the way, reviving an old thread is perfectly valid when old problems reoccur. CEF is Chromium Enabled Fartgoblins or Framework or something to do with migrating to or from HTML5 video. The "libmedia_plugin_cef.so" file provided with the latest Firestorm seems to be bad ... the easiest way to fix it is to rename that file in your lib folder to libmedia_plugin_cef.so.new, then copy the old file from your old Firestorm installation. If you don't have the old installation anymore, just unpack it, it's not a big deal ... or get the file from your Chrome web browser folder, it's the same file.

I just got an email from the exact same address telling me that "some Residents outside the United States with a Credit Card on file may have difficulty with their current payment method" and "your account has been identified as one that may be affected". The next line was trying to get me to click on a fake link and re-enter my credit card information. I'm not outside the US, and I use Pay Pal, so LL doesn't know or care about my credit card information. I highly suspect anything from that email address is fake.

@doobie322 ... The guy (DeanT Scout) told me the in-world profile thing is a known issue, and pointed me to this Jira: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-10415 As far as the forums are concerned, he simply said "the community site has undergone some recent changes, and things are still settling from the changes".

@doobie322 ... The guy told me the in-world profile thing is a known issue, and pointed me to this Jira: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-10415 As far as the forums are concerned, he simply said "the community site has undergone some recent changes, and things are still settling from the changes".

Maybe something got messed up with your account in the forum transition. Kind of off topic, but we did touch on it here, so I thought I would post an update. I suddenly couldn't see my in-world profile either, so I filed a ticket. Turns out a recent change requires me to log in to my profile window separately from the viewer (probably because I don't allow cookies), and the support guy acknowledged that my profile here in the forums is missing, and will hopefully be restored when everything settles after the transition.

We're still talking about Second Life, right?

Just a quick update ... everything is back to normal this morning, including my neighbors' cat. I did a few more tests yesterday, they worked fine when I found a place to rez on three of the adjacent sims, and they did not work when I took them up to 4K meters on my own sim. There were a few other strange things going on as well, the sim was definitely broken last week. Thanks for all the suggestions

I don't, it's no copy ... but I did take it to a rez zone, far away, and everything worked fine there, so I don't think a fresh copy of the same scripts will make any difference. Something happened locally, a few days ago, that's messing up my butterflies, and possibly my neighbors' cat. The neighbors' cat has been there a while, and was misbehaving this morning even while there were no butterflies out, or the rezzer, so I don't think he's the problem, he's another victim. If the sim restart doesn't help anything, I'll just put them away for a while, and try again at a later date. Thanks

You're right. I narrowed the scope of where they are supposed to rez to one meter, positioned my camera, and was able to see one rez before he took off like a bat out of hell toward parts unknown. I did a few experiments, moving the rezzer around my parcel, and they seem to leave the rezzer at the same angle initially, then after a certain amount of time they make a random turn, that's why they're ending up all over the place. I'm beginning to think that something local is causing them to move way too fast, and they leave their designated area before the script has a chance to turn them. I also just noticed that a nearby neighbor has a cat, that's never had a problem before, at least none that I've noticed, but now all of a sudden he's doing weird things like leaving her parcel, walking on water, floating in the air, that sort of thing.

So, your comment gave me the idea to take it to a public rez zone far far away, and guess what, it works fine there. So there's definitely something new near my parcel that's screwing it up. In Nova Albion it will be difficult, if not impossible, to track down exactly what it is. Thanks

That's the full name I'm logging in with ... LXIX Tomorrow. Thanks ... this issue doesn't bother me nearly as much as the butterfly rezzer, but Rolig gave me an idea, and I'm at least narrowing it down.

Thanks, but I did say "when I reset it", that meant that I reset the scripts (yes, I know how). The really weird thing is they will sometimes rez in adjacent sims, far far away, that seems impossible to me, but it's repeatable. Again, I've owned this thing for years, haven't touched it for over a year, and this just started happening a few days ago, I wasn't even online when it started, I just got messages telling me that they had been returned from far away places that they shouldn't possibly be able to get to. I think something weird is gong on with the sim (this is in Nova Albion), because yesterday (Sunday) I logged on and found "copies" of some trees that I had moved the day before (Saturday), in their original location. Rolling re-start day there is Tuesday (today), maybe this will all clear itself up. Rolig's comment that "some new device nearby shares the same comm channel" is an intriguing possibility. Another odd thing is, why am I listed as a noob here? I've been active in the forums for years and years, and posted hundreds, if not thousands, of times.

Well, I appreciate the comment, and I agree with everything you said, but I did say that I have owned this thing for years (about 8 years), and that it has been sitting in the same spot, untouched, for over a year now. This just started happening, out of the blue, a few days ago, so I assumed there was some system change, or something weird, that caused this. I can't believe that something like this just happens all of a sudden, for no reason. It's repeatable, when I try to rez new butterflies, they appear a long ways away (I know how to find them, I'm not a noob), so something strange is happening here. By the way, this one is not a resource hog (again, I'm not a noob), it cleans up after itself, and replaces the objects every few hours, and it takes only a few milliseconds. Something weird happened a few days ago, and it's persistent. I am aware of other "good butterfly devices", and I appreciate the suggestion ... I'm just trying to figure out what's going on here. ... thanks.

Hey, did something change in the past few days? I have a butterfly rezzer, that I bought years ago, and it's never given me any trouble. In fact, it's been sitting in the exact same place for over a year now, doing it's job, untouched. A few days ago I got a slew of messages telling me that my butterflies were being returned from all over the place, same sim, nearby sims, just all over. When I reset it, and tried to rez more butterflies, the same thing happens, they rez all over the place, when they are supposed to be within 4 meters. I tried to contact the creator, but he's long since gone ... any ideas about what might be going on here?

Is there a way to pay another resident, without logging into the game? Perhaps the dashboard/website? Somehow?