Benka Ravenhurst

I would like to offer $1,200.00 for a full grand-fathered region, I will cover transfer fees. My in-world name is Benka Ravenhurst.

Still looking. Feel free to send a notecard in-world.

I have a roadside mountain that needs reworking. Currently, I am using barriers to keep rocks from falling on the road; this is seen as ugly by some, robbing the potential beauty the mountain offered. You must have a website showing your professional work to be considered.

Speaking on behalf of everyone again I see; humm. Well, I do not know everyone; I do not know most of everyone; I do not know a quarter, one eight, one one millionth, one-hundred millionth or even one-thousandth of a millionth. I highly suspect you don't either.

The reason why it is still going is because I hit a sore spot; as such, there are many in my belief who desire to maintain the status quo of the mainland. Who they are I cannot say but we as estate owners are clearly being unfairly presented in a bad light.

I see; so you are here to 'educate' me on the subject of land ownership, even though you 'couldn't care less about land'. If someone couldn't care less about a subject, then I find it highly suspicious for them to claim that they can educate me on it. no, I reject you; I have at every turn proven your words faulty, misleading and inaccurate time and again. If anyone is truly a troll, it is those who come to pretend that they can educate on a subject, in a thread that they could not 'care less about.'

You're quite opinionated; as for the rest of your response, I have no clue how many people you know, or how many 'almost everyone' would be. As for as your claim that 'everyone' knows it but me, I contest that as a fact you neither can truly know or even demonstrate. Perhaps this authoritative tone of yours to squelch the validity of my arguments are really to serve the interests of the mainland; almost as if you are an agent of that very cause.

Be as it may, I still stand by my objection. I believe that private estate owners are being unfairly treated with the spreading of the idea that one can only own land on the mainland. This mainland receives much greater attention, and when folks think that they can only rent on private estates, makes them less attractive.

We're dealing with an illusion here; perhaps the most attractive one. Much of what you find in the database is written in the light of that illusion; that there exists parcels of land or the shores of the mainland. It is very easy for a mind of such desires to observe those words as it expects it to be. But yes, facts are important, but a provisional fact is not truth when it cannot be relied on as being true all the time. Renting or buying in-world is a fantasy because it is only truth in the context of that reality. My argument on renting is based primarily in the context of that reality; I understand that these things are unreal and that the company that provides this service holds all the cards of ownership. That aside, when dealing within the realm of this fantasy of second life, a resident can live in a rental situation or a land owner situation. Using the word 'rent' to describe all these relationships is a problem I take issue with. Going back and forth from reality and fantasy serves the OP in obfuscating the area of my objection. They don't want a forum section set just for buying parcels on private islands because they want to focus buyers on the mainland. If someone believes that they can only own land on the mainland, then that would only serve to enhance the attractiveness of the mainland. My point here is that in the in-world reality, you can own land on the mainland, you can own land on a private island or the whole island itself; in-world; or just rent them, it's up to you.

True; virtual land has no physical reality but the concept still comes with SOME degree of responsibility of its use. What people are really 'owning' in that light is not land but, well, accountability ( as though the land was real). Control is the reward for taking on that accountability; the greater the control, the greater the accountability (i.e. loss). This structure was encoded into the framework to serve as a firewall to mitigate Linden Labs's liability.

Looking at your profile pic, I must agree, it's time for tea <cheers>

That posting is meant to draw attention to the risks of buying land on private estates, it is not written to lay claim that regions are the property of the buyer; they are not; as per TOS agreement.

There is no evidence of that other than your opinion. On my front, Linden Labs does not recognize in-world content as being owned by anyone other than Linden Labs. So, the idea that they acknowledges ownership outside of that is technically and contractually untrue. What folks are really 'buying' are titles of accountability, not titles of possession. This would be rather insidious were it not for the rewards those titles can give.

Your key word here is 'technically', a word which is meant to draw attention to a critical fact. Technically, Linden Labs owns all content, including the land you 'buy' on the mainland; technically. What is further misleading of that post is that technically, even estate owners do not technically own the estate they own; technically. What is important to convey is a critical fact that buying land on a private estate comes with risk, as well as the understanding that estate owners are not agents of Linden Labs. Moreover, the statement, "As the owner of a Private Region, you still need to collect rental fees from your tenants." is not factual either. Owners of private regions do not need to collect anything from either his or her tenants or land owners; there is no need or necessity to do this as that statement suggests.

That is my point, you can rent an estate from an estate owner, or buy it and be the governor yourself. It is when the word 'rent' is being used in all estate dealings that leads me to post objections. Buying an estate from another owner does not transfer those lands into your name, you have to reclaim those lands personally. This is because an estate, as it is presented in Second Life, is a domain, one inclusive of lands that may or may not be lands the estate owner owns.