[Wanted: Realistic Sized Doors]

3 minutes ago, Clem Marques said:

Funny, I have the opposite problem. Sometimes I bump my forehead on the doorframe of a building, and can't enter the place unless I magically sit on a piece of furniture that is in there. At least if a door is oversized for you, you can still get in 

The trials and tribulations of giants... 🤣

[Need to be Careful with PBR no Forced Update Ever]

60% to 70% ... has to be super exaggeration.  Everything runs pretty much the same for me with barely a noticeable difference if I set the graphics to look similar as before.  People are running higher settings now and surprised it runs worse.

Instead of changing the presets, maybe they should just add "Super Ultra" and a "Mega Super Ultra Max" settings or something since people think the slider is the same as the old versions... and leave low, medium, high, ultra the same as before.

[Is Lindenlab choosing a doomed path for SL ? Tell us if the EEP and PBR introduction changed the way you play SL]

If I set the settings in Firestorm to look very nearly the same as they did before PBR, the load on my system is hardly any different at all.  I think people think "Medium" and "High" and "Ultra" still mean the same thing, but they are actually all higher settings than they were in older viewers.

[Is Lindenlab choosing a doomed path for SL ? Tell us if the EEP and PBR introduction changed the way you play SL]

11 minutes ago, Dorientje Woller said:

Or switch to AMD or Intel ARC cards ... I haven't heard those owners complain yet.

My friend was running Windows on an AMD GPU and it was running horrible for her, bad stutters and all types of stuff.... she redid the whitelist Firestorm says to do with Windows built in antivirus (removed and re-added), and rebooted, and then it all cleared up and she said its running great.

They run better with Linux though, but even my nvidia runs SL faster in Linux than Windows

[Linden Lab your PBR is giving me a headache]

I don't get it... with the right settings I got it looking identical (besides water) to the old viewer... took maybe 5 minutes, runs great... on my 3.5 year old laptop.

[Is Lindenlab choosing a doomed path for SL ? Tell us if the EEP and PBR introduction changed the way you play SL]

oh no... people can't use their 10+ year old low end computers any more... what ever shall we do?

I think PBR stuff looks good, besides some water issues that can be worked around so far.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

1 hour ago, Rolig Loon said:

That's a good point.  I suspect that Governance would be able to handle that edge case fairly easily if anyone bothered to AR it, though, since there would probably be other situational cues that would make it clear that a diaper is normal in the RP.

People with diaper fetishes have been ARed before, and I'm sure again... I have a feeling the governance team is well aware of a lot of fetishes.

23 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Maybe it's because I stopped going to adult hangout sims a long time ago, but I feel like the older SL era was a LOT more...adventurous. I'm sure some of the more wild...interests...still exist. I just feel they're a bit more hidden than they used to be. And yeah...vore. Ugh. No thanks on that one!!!!!!!!!

Even then, I can't really recall ever meeting anyone with a diaper fetish here, and it's not really the most talked about thing, lol. When I saw it in Yakuza ages ago, I couldn't help but giggle. Yakuza games take all kinds of risks, though. Seeing the convo here reminded me of those scenes and I had to post one of them. Couldn't help it! 🤣 

And no, I seriously doubt if anyone's running around as an obvious adult like that, they'd be a target. At least I hope not. Just let people live, lol.

Usually those of us that enjoy things with diapers don't go around sticking them in peoples faces, as most people do not understand.  People are usually ignorant of the topic at all, think badly, and AR or harass quickly, not understanding anything to do with diapers at all.  Adult diapers are much more common than you may think... and a multi-billion dollar industry rivaling baby diapers.

There are many diaper and diaper related products and brands in SL.  This is all well known by LL.  I think there used to be a lot more on SL, but there are still many around, its just something you'd likely never see unless you were looking for it.

ABDL stuff is about adults... I wouldn't want to have a child avatar in any kinky play like that... not because of any rules, but because its disgusting.  Its about adults with diapers and cute/kawaii stuff and it gets into Dom/sub BDSM type things.  Not going to involve the look of a child and ruin any actual sexual attraction with adults.

[Lindens Statements from Governance Meeting]

8 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

CAN child avatars have partners according to the TOS? I posted a dystopian take on that in one thread, but don't know.

Yes... this was confirmed by Lindens last meeting.  Partners can be any type of partner, even business partners.

5 hours ago, Rolig Loon said:

The first Law of Holes: "When you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING"

but... but... are you sure there is no buried treasure down there?

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

6 minutes ago, taya Maruti said:

thats part of the point of this specific outfit, i don't want to poison peoples decisions with comments on it athis time though so i am going to hold comments about the ideology that a diaper is exclusivly for children till a while out.

I put confused on both, and its to do with the furry AV and I just cannot tell what age someone is trying to be off any of them... the diaper isn't an issue for those of us who are into, or know about, kinky stuff

[Will The New TOS on Child Avatars Ensnare Short Adults?]

3 hours ago, BillFletcher said:

I am in the USA, I am 5 11, very few women here are taller than me.

I'm 5' and living in the USA and almost everyone is taller than me... even lots of kids 😂

3 hours ago, Katherine Heartsong said:

The UX and UI keep people away. SL is almost unique in how difficult it can be for a new user to onboard, understand the purpose of the platform, navigate, understand how to look good, figure out what to do, etc.

It'd be like me giving you all the pieces to a complex board game and no rules.

I struggled a lot figuring out the interface, and I had someone helping me.  I think it could probably be designed with a more user friendly way.

1 hour ago, Starberry Passion said:

They don't know that the most popular MMORPGs protect their "RPing community" Including the ERPing community. WoW has a huge ERP community, so does FFXIV. Without those people, they would stop being popular.

Look at how they did with Phantasy Star Online 2: NGS. They stopped grown adults people from ERPing.... now it's a dead game. It's a Mature rated game. Now it's not doing so good.

I have tried a few MMOs, and pretty much all of them ended up having ERP going on, and it wasn't hard to find. 

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

1 hour ago, Blush Bravin said:

One issue with using the extra layer for smoothing the groin, and other parts of the body, is that if you keep it on and wear mesh clothing it quite often pokes through the mesh. I can't keep my panties smooth and also wear some mesh clothing because the layer that is doing the smoothing contains the skin and any BOM system layers you are wearing. I'm pretty sure, I could be wrong, but pretty sure even alpha cuts don't work on that BOM add-on layer that does the smoothing. So in this case, a teen using that layer to smooth the camels toe would have to remove it when wearing certain mesh clothing. I've even had to remove it when wearing skirts because it poked ever so slightly, but still obvious, through the front of the skirt. 

That makes sense.  I guess I don't run into that because I don't manually change clothes parts except when creating an outfit... once its saved I just click the outfit I want to wear and let the viewer change everything... the most I have to do is hit the save stick to apply my body changes, like alpha layers if needed, in an extra click.  I don't have those extras on with outfits they aren't needed on... though I mainly only use ones for toes.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

12 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

In general, yes, I agree with you. In specifics with the Maitreya whatsit? Long story short - it just doesn't work that well with outfits. If you try to attach a body that had been set up with it without having it attached, the body will have holes that will only be repaired if you attach the whatsit and then detach it. And it even has its own mini-hud just to control the whatsit.

9 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Right now, with Reborn, I can do everything you do with Maitreya with out having to add yet more attachments.  I can tint any BOM clothing, add BoM layers, all of it.  I can also smooth the genital area from the HUD if needed.  

Why Maitreya still has all those layers is beyond silly to me.

Guess I don't understand the problem then... I've never ran into any issues at all and its super simple and I never have to manually adjust anything once its saved for hundreds of outfits.  Its fine though, everyone does things different ways.

[Will The New TOS on Child Avatars Ensnare Short Adults?]

10 minutes ago, Flower Caerndow said:

Why can't you make yourself taller?  You really cannot claim it is because you want "realistic" proportions, so that only leaves someone to wonder why being short is so important to you. 

Though it does give you something to be  a drama queen/attention whore about.

A lot of people find identity in a lot of things... including height.  Asking someone why they just can't be taller... its no different than only have 1 color of skin and asking everyone why they can't just be that race...

[You are now aware that SL is older than some of its users.]

If it wasn't for SL being able to make anything, adding in Mesh and stuff... it would look horrible though.

Just look at the default avatar and hair and all that stuff that looks absolutely horrid... lol

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

12 hours ago, Dorientje Woller said:

If it's needed for Maitreya, then it should be needed for all adult female body creators/brands. No exclusion, no buts. But then be proud of yourself that SL will turn into a virtual wasteland.

Why would it be a wasteland?  Almost everyone using any of those bodies are adult and keep on as normal.  If Maitreya or any other brand sees a reason (like profit) in making child compatible bodies, then they will.  This won't affect anyone but those wanting to make child avatars.

3 hours ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

Close... it's an add-on "BOM compatibility something-or-other" piece. It would be a lot easier if they'd just fuse in into the main body and allow it to be turned on and off with the HUD like most other bodies. Buuutttt they didn't.

Why would you fuse it and have it controlled with a hud?  I like having a separate items I can attach, have textured the way I want, and saved as part of an outfit so it can just swap out, no HUD or anything needed. So much easier to swap outfits with push of a button in outfits.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

1 hour ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

That was painful to watch and they totally ignored Coffee on her repeated questions about Maitreya.  Wish we had a definite answer to that one.

6 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

I didn't bother watching the video, there's a limit to how much Tiny Terror Tot wailing I can stomach without reaching for a flamethrower.

 

What insane crusade against Maitreya was the Caffeinated one on this time?

They are asking questions clearly answered... not because they don't understand, but because they are trying to make some type of points in the arguments.

It clearly says that creators of children content has to follow the rules.  Maitreya doesn't make child content... they don't have to worry about it.

They also said (in the meeting) the the modesty layer has to be part of the skin.  The skin can be changed, but the owner then cannot put a naked skin on it, or they'd be violating the rules... the creator is fine in that case

[You are now aware that SL is older than some of its users.]

57 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

I have the opposite feeling about SL.
More and more people look unrealistic and mutilated.
But mileages vary of course.
 

I think people should look like they want... but I do agree I roll my eyes a lot of avatars, but I am sure some do that at me too

[Will The New TOS on Child Avatars Ensnare Short Adults?]

1 minute ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

black bear or grizzly bear?

Yes please

[Will The New TOS on Child Avatars Ensnare Short Adults?]

1 minute ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

lol except if im riding a 7 ft tall guy, and someone says omg look at that kid doing it…. AR 😂

Thats why you should go with the bear

[You are now aware that SL is older than some of its users.]

10 minutes ago, Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia said:

To put it in perspective... SL is the same age as GTA: Vice City.  SL looks great, considering how old it is!  Can you imagine your SL avatar standing next to a Vice City character?

I've seen some terrible avatars lately in SL... some people need a maker over, but at least most are updated and looking better than most 20+ year old games

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

1 minute ago, Hymn Celestia said:

I thought 18 on the nose; so was forced to thank it.  18 to me looks youthful but is old enough to pass.  When I see someone looking youthful but somehow old enough to pass, they get the thanks.  Tame, brushed hair; a thoughtful and nuanced political opinion; jewelry that isn't candy; evidence of literacy... something or other will be the tell. 

I love my candy jewelry and I'm 22!!   😢

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

2 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said:

From your first link:

 

a minor is a child... what do you think it means? 

Minors are Children.  Children are Minors.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

1 minute ago, Eddy Vortex said:

I got the impression that the thread was primarily for others to gauge if their avatar would be carded at a liquor store. It was quite obvious that you are clearly a child avatar that I thought you were making a somewhat jokey post. I almost posted this picture in a similar vein:

carded at a liquor store in the US is beyond the range we discuss here.  You have to be 21.. but they card if they think you may be anywhere under 30, or more sometimes.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

16 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said:

I would disagree. There were only one or two clear "child" avatars, but several avatars that could read as either teenager under the age of majority OR teenager over the age of majority. 

I think several look 30+ and I wonder why they even asked lol...

10 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

But um Child avatars are not minors by any means. They are adults behind that avatar. So it should be worded as the sexualized depiction of Child avatars. That wording is terrible. It treats child avatars like actual children. I mean it is creepy and weird that people get off on this. But the wording is totally off. 

Its talking about an avatar that depicts a minor... as in a child.  You don't depict an avatar, you depict something that exists with your avatar.

[Discuss or Comments about Child, Adult, Can't Tell Thread]

Being petite and liking kawaii type looks, have to be careful because people have more problems perceiving computer graphics vs reality, and they have enough with reality.  Sucks for me because I don't want to be big, fat, and/or dress like an old person... or dress in a the more *****ty type of outfits that seem prevalent.