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And no, cow farting isn't even the main source of methane gotten from cows. It is cow burps and also all the waste they leave. https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/33/which-is-a-bigger-methane-source-cow-belching-or-cow-flatulence/

That's some mind-blowing science work you should have discovered. Mind I get some evidence for these incredible claims (actual studies/scientific articles). So do you not agree with the figures of livestock sector emitting more greenhouse gases than the entire transportation sector or the animal agriculture being the leading cause of species extinction (while occupying 83% of global farmland for 18% of calories), consuming 1/3 of fresh water? And based on my ideological and dogmatic vegan research I have found that cattle that are grazing (on grass) emit more than 3 times more methane than those fed on grains https://academic.oup.com/jas/article-abstract/77/6/1392/4625488?redirectedFrom=fulltext. Maybe you could comment?

My bad. It was 500 eggs per hen. Her whole life, per 100 weeks. And there are articles about companies striving to reach this, as this one https://www.joiceandhill.co.uk/en/news/german-free-range-farm-achieves-500-eggs-100-weeks/

The point that free-range farming systems don't include death and cruelty is wrong in and of itself. That's the only thing that I quoted and it was separate from any other things you said. The only one that misrepresented and disregarded relevant parts to the made points was you. All the things I said were applicable to all countries, including the EU, except the citation about what free-range entails in the US, as I won't paste regulations from all countries. And you can see what happens in countries that have the highest welfare standards in the world and even some free-range or organic farms in the documentaries I mentioned- Land of Hope and Glory (the UK) and Dominion (Australia). About the advice on how to be an activist: that is not an argument. I wasn't talking about effective ways to turn people, so that was uncalled for, especially from a vegetarian.

Was this supposed to be a joke? You should definitely watch Dominion or Land of Hope and Glory to see what the standard practices are in the animal agriculture. There are many awful things that are legal and aren't easily avoidable in most practical scenarios. Male chicks are still of no use to the egg industry so they are most often either ground up alive in a macerator or suffocated in trash bags. Female hens are soon to be murdered as well when the egg laying rate declines. Even though female hens have been bred to such a degree that instead of the natural amount of, like, 20 eggs per year they are subjected to lay 300 or even 500 eggs per year which is a painful and long practice and puts a strain on their bodies and makes them very prone to some horrible complications. "According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), free range means that chickens have access to the outdoors for at least some part of the day, whether the chickens choose to go outside or not. There are no requirements for length of time the chicken must spend outdoors, the size of the outdoor area or the type of groundcover. " -That is all free-range really means, even though very often we see this criteria isn't even met.

What the hell are you basing your view on that plant-based alternatives can be on par or even worse than meat overall? Just because soy can be imported, or some more water can be used for nuts than some particular animal products, or that you are using land for farming animals that couldn't be used for some plant agriculture (while we wouldn't even need to care about that as animal products supply with just 18% of global calories while using 83% of all farmland), that really doesn't mean these foods have an overall bigger impact than animal products. Just think about the resources and the pollution billions of farmed animals require/leave, especially if they are well cared for (e.g. given a lot of space and their hygiene is ensured) and are let to live a bit longer. And the areas where groups of animals are let to graze on very soon become devoid of natural diversity, soil erosion is massively boosted and local waterways get contaminated with fecal waste, not to mention the necessity to protect the animals from any predators. I know that you pulled this conclusion out of your ass.

Have been an (ethical) vegan for 4 years. Would be interested in meeting other ones from the vegan side :]