Ezbeharra
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I guess I need to differentiate my own stance on this from others because I don't really expect this behavior to change in SL and I don't actually care all that much about whether or not it does. It's symptomatic of larger social conditions that are way out of scope of this discussion, and those social conditions cause much bigger problems than this one. I started participating in this thread because I think it's interesting to talk about, but unfortunately people are so busy fighting over what or whether something should be done about it that they haven't even stopped to discuss exactly what "it" is.
Also, as someone who freely admits to being lewd in SL, I certainly am not bothered by being approached in the right circumstances, so let's be clear this is not a case of some kind of prudish indignation. Maybe others are experiencing different behavior or have different levels of sensitivity. For me, at least, there's way more cringe than outrage.
And finally, let's restore the context of the start of the thread. Someone had the experience of preventing behavior toward them that they had found unpleasant, and found the improvement in their SL experience remarkable enough to comment on, and went on to discuss the possible downsides of the mechanism of prevention. This seemed to me to be an opportunity to explore two things more deeply: the behavior in question, and the advantages/disadvantages of the particular mitigation measure.
But somehow from that we got:
- denial that the actual behavior occurs disproportionately to other behavior
- denial that it's actually something that the OP should have found unpleasant
- a bunch of stuff about feminists up to no good again (i.e., women who may or may not be feminists talking about an experience they've shared that might paint men in a negative light)
- extremely questionable claims about prehistory and anthropology (this is the part where the feminists get mad at me)
- "Political Correctness!" "Virtue Signalling!" "Snowflake!"
- something about Star Wars??? honestly I was pretty lost at this point and had muted about half the thread's participants
Anyway, great thread, 10 out of 10. Never change, SL forums!
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6 hours ago, Chery Amore said:
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One of the purposes of a forum like this is for people to share and discuss their experiences. People do that all the time for other experiences in SL, both positive and negative, without a bunch of people flipping out and shrieking, "Well deal with it!" Buddy, I already do, everyone who's talked about experiencing it already deals with it. We can still talk about it.
Nobody seriously thinks that there's going to be a change in behavior in SL based on a discussion that occurs on a forum that maybe a few dozen people read.
So maybe take your own advice: "A lot of things are annoying to some people in this world." Yep, that includes forum topics that you find upsetting for some reason.
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15 minutes ago, Charlemagne Allen said:
What did we learn today, children?
That some men on this forum are so fragile they feel the need to dogpile and spam any discussion that they feel threatened by until it gets shut down by some mole.
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It is absolutely hilarious that anyone pointing out that having a female avatar in some places results in certain types of undesirable experiences with other users is a radical feminist who is trying to get people riled up. Not only that, but wanting to discuss and compare these experiences is apparently Political Correctness run amuck.
Personally, if someone is talking about a kind of bad behavior that I don't engage in, I never feel defensive about it. But I guess I'm just built different.
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22 minutes ago, Kalegthepsionicist said:
I was jum into sim i see female avatar and only her in rhat sim send her im becaus i want ask what rp in this sim.
my first word is hi hello.
you know what she said,
she said im fine no thanks.
wth..
She was actually being nice. I would have just ignored you.
Here's a little tip. If you want to ask someone an actual question in IM, just send that person the whole question as your first message. Otherwise they're likely to think you're just wasting their time, and it's because a hundred other people before you did exactly that.
It sucks that you were the 101st guy to send that woman a "hello" from a random stranger but it's not my problem, either.
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2 hours ago, Kathlen Onyx said:
My thoughts are I just close the box and don't respond. Most only say hi anyway and expect you then to carry on the conversation. Not happening.
I think that's an important point. We're all kind of trained to return ritual greetings but when it comes in the form of an IM, it's an opener, not a greeting, and whatever anyone else may think I do not consider it rude to just ignore them.
24 minutes ago, Kalegthepsionicist said:trust me without thirsty men SL will be *****ing boring.
you will regret when all men turn to saint dude noted my words
The problem isn't men who are thirsty, it's men who take a shotgun approach to getting any. If you're thirsty but you've got even a little game, you don't need to IM every woman who drops onto the sim.
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I don't buy into any gender essentialist theories about who is innately more aggressive, and I don't think there's a particular power dynamic present in SL, but both women and men bring their real world social habits into virtual worlds and those social habits are shaped by both present day and historical power dynamics.
This is just a thing that exists, and I don't think anyone pointing it out is claiming it's some kind of crisis. To me, it's a nuisance, a sort of annoying background noise, but it's there and it's very funny to me that even saying it's there has people on the defensive.
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10 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:
No, it infers why do some people grow up and others don't. Some learn to deal with life on life's terms and others choose to remain a snowflake, ready to melt at the slightest hint of a challenge.
So a "snowflake" is someone who says, "I have noticed that something unpleasant occurs in certain situations." Got it.
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17 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:
I'm not even sure what's being argued in here anymore. *side eyes my coffee*
Are we saying women don't receive lots of IMs from men or somethin'? We absolutely do (generally speaking). That's not even a new thing. It's been that way since I first skipped into SL in 2005.
Hell, that's not even limited to SL. Go play any multiplayer game with a cute female character and see what happens.
For the record, men get hit on a lot, too, but that tends to be a bit different and usually a bit more targeted. We get offered gold and mounts and item shop junk for no good reason, lol.
Yeah a lot of it really is just being a woman on the internet. But it's funny how just pointing this out—without even saying that something in particular needs to be done about it—gets a bunch of defensive replies.
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19 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said:
Empowering people to help themselves, or "blaming the victim" should be done way, way more often. It's not done enough. It's no different than saying you'll get less wet in the rain if you bring an umbrella.
So you're saying that men, much like the weather, have no volition, agency, or responsibility for their behavior.
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37 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:
Also, male werewolves seem to be a fan favorite, as well, from what I've heard, lol. Minotaurs, too, I think.
The people who like them, like them, but I'd say there's a bit of a surplus population of large monsters. Goblins, on the other hand, are few and far between but never seem to lack for company.
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8 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said:
This seems... Hyperbolic.
It really can be a nuisance but it depends on where you go and how you look. I've just become comfortable with ignoring people I don't want to talk to.
2 hours ago, Sid Nagy said:Social platform.... eh....
That doesn't mean you have to make yourself available to talk to just anyone, especially when there are some people who take any reply as encouragement.
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1 hour ago, Spooky Pumpkins said:
Creators are (and still are) locking basic colors like black and white behind a fatpack paywall. Black and white are historically the most purchased colors.
Do I agree with this practice? no.
But it's pretty easy to tell the creator how you feel about it by just not buying the item.Not buying the item doesn't tell the seller anything, actually. The seller has no way of knowing whether someone was considering buying the item or why they decided against it. Businesses pay a lot of money to try to figure these things out and even then it's a lot of guesswork.
So, arguably, the OP was trying to do creators a favor, under the mistaken assumption that more that a few creators might ever see the thread or that the SL Fashion forum has any kind of reach outside of a few dozen people.
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I don't know anything about the pregnancy options but as a mostly happy Legacy owner I'll mention a couple of things to check while you're demoing to make sure you can live with them:
- Spend some time using the Styles part of the HUD and make sure you can live with it, especially the fact that you have to have Media enabled to use it (just the Styles part, though, and you can turn Media off when you're not). Personally, I almost never use the Styles tab of the HUD, aside from the initial setup to turn BoM on, because it suuuuuucks. I even bought mesh nails to avoid using it (Cazimi Ballerina nails, best L$1 I ever spent) unless I need to paint my toenails. Note that you can turn the body's nails on and off with gestures now, it's just painting them that requires the HUD.
- Get some demo garments that are scripted to activate the alpha cuts, and try putting them on and then taking them off a few times. Notice how slooooow the alphas get painted back in. A real shocker if you've switched from literally any other mesh body. Try it on a laggy sim for real agony. I just avoid things that activate alphas, which my personal style allows, but if you like lots of cover and you also change your clothes a lot this may really be a problem for you.
If I could have gotten the shape I wanted with eBody Reborn I probably would have gone with that instead, but Legacy was the only popular body that did what I wanted. Both bodies seem to be popular enough to be well supported by apparel creators so I don't think you can make a bad choice here.
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17 hours ago, Gabriel Isodo said:
I don't understand why on second life beeing an alt is something considered bad. We can have 2 3 or 10 accounts. What is the problem?
Some people see SL as an extension of real life society and consider being anyone other than yourself (or not "being honest" about your real world self) a type of deception. These people tend to get upset about alts, or at least alts that come without full disclosure.
Other people see SL as a fantasy world in which anything is possible and take avatars at face value, seeing them more as characters. These people tend to be unconcerned with whether or not they may be dealing with the same real world person behind different avatars, and might even prefer not to know.
These different kinds of people will probably never see eye to eye since they're approaching SL in fundamentally different ways. As one of the latter types, I just try to avoid the former.
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It's a square. Use any crop tool. It used to be different, and super weird, and then it changed to a square, except that many people had Firestorm in "classic profile" mode so no matter what you did, someone would see it stretched or squished. But now it's a square, available where all fine shapes are sold.
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1 hour ago, Flea Yatsenko said:
I think this is a symptom of work from home and how it doesn't really work in the long term.
Pretty sure it's actually a symptom of a financial services company being run like a lemonade stand. A real currency exchange that arbitrarily blocked some traders for any reason would have a small army of federal regulators inspecting the colons of every single person involved.
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Thanks but I've already looked at the market data page; it's what's prompting the additional questions. The live feed data isn't historical and doesn't contain what I'm looking for:
- daily trade volume per exchange rate on a given day
- daily trade volume divided into buy or sell orders filled on a given day
- some kind of snapshot of open orders for each day at some time, market close or open would be fine
- the items above going back at least a week (preferably two)
If it's just not available then that's that, I was just hoping someone might know if LL/Tilia provided this somewhere that I haven't been able to find.
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Is there a way to get historical LindeX data other than the daily summaries for the past 30 days that's displayed on the market info page? In particular, I'd like to see quantity traded per rate for each day and some kind of snapshot of quantities for open orders at each rate for a given day, for at least the past week.
Edit: Also, volume divided into buy orders filled vs. sell orders filled would be dandy.
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It's definitely working out very well for the people who are still able to sell lindens.
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I wonder how many people this is affecting. I'm only a casual and infrequent buyer of lindens but I've always had my buy orders turn around in a few hours if I'm just over the lowest open buy order (assuming it's a low quantity) and well below the typical daily max for the past 30 days. This time it's been sitting for a couple of days. Not a big deal for me, and this approach always carries risk, but if it's because there are people trying to unload their lindens and can't then that definitely irks me.
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9 minutes ago, Midnoot said:
I'm not expecting any magic . I'm simply wondering what keywords other people use to find active places, but it seems nobody even uses key words. They just have a circle of social friends who teleport them everywhere. Where them heroes at who're finding all these places for you guys? >:C! Probably too occupied doing all the hard work , not resorting to forums. lololol. Not that I don't appreciate the alternative suggestions.
I said, join an announce group for stuff you like. Nobody teleports me anywhere unless they're planning to rail me. Otherwise I go to stuff that gets announced and chat and have fun, even though I don't know any of those people. Yeah, search sucks, it's terrible. The best places have a nice crowd for a couple of hours, a couple of days a week, so their overall traffic is so low they'll be way down on the search results. Also, parcel owners game the traffic numbers with bots even though they're not supposed to. Search groups for stuff you like, sort by number of members, join one and see if there are any notices for events. There's a bunch of "such-and-such Music Informer" groups that might be helpful.
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You don't have to wait for events, you find out when they are and you show up at them. If they suck you find another one. It's just like RL; most places suck and most people are annoying, it takes a little legwork to find the people you vibe with. I don't know what you're imagining but you can't put in a keyword and find that, and I've been in SL long enough to know it's always been like that, regardless of the age of this lewd alt.
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My suggestion is to stop looking for places and start looking for events. For example, I recently joined the Everything Indie group and get regular announcements for music events with the kind of music I like, with pretty decent turnout, in places that are otherwise vacant when nothing's scheduled. Not a lot of gesture spamming at these, and a fairly talkative crowd. A smaller, low traffic club of whatever genre you like will probably be empty most of the time but will also have an events schedule posted. Go to some of those, and if you like the DJ join their fan group for other announcements (most good DJs have multiple venues and fan followers), and someone may be able to suggest an announcement group for events of that genre.
That's obviously for music specifically, but I know there are groups that coordinate other activities like grid drives.
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I decided to make my Second Life a tad bit easier. I disabled incoming IMs from "non-friends" for some of my accounts.
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Because it's been implied a number of times by various people in this thread, and I certainly never said or thought the second thing. You're doing the exact same thing the people you're arguing with are doing, reacting defensively to stuff you just outright imagine.