CaerolleClaudel

I may not be that person but honestly I am pretty crunchy about SL. I do try to avoid that and just interact with posts that are more about bigger social or intellectual topics, but I know I let some of my feeling about Sl creep in. And I am an oldie (joined somewhere ~2006 or 2007 i think) and also other than one brief period 2 -3 years ago have not been in SL for a really long time. If nothing else there is a lesson in there for me, I think. And weirdly, although I follow you and one other person, I have my notifications set to not email me, yet I got an email notice on that specific post. Existence trying to tell me something?

That sounds awfully close to home for me... 😬

I thought you meant Master of Fine Art lol. I do not mind using 2FA (two-factor authorization), but I prefer to chose *where* I use it. SL would totally NOT be one of those places, though it does meet my criterion of 'an app/site where someone could steal my money if they stole my account.'

Same. I bought my first gaming computer in the mid aughts in an attempt to make SL work better, and have maintained one ever since. I stopped using SL but got into digital photography and found that gaming computers worked really well for that, also. My first gaming computer was also Alienware!! I kept the same system for over 15 years, but upgraded the CPU and water cooler, motherboard, memory, graphics card, hard drive to SSD as time went on. I finally replaced that system earlier this year with another Alienware, and I love it. Since have upgraded the memory from 16 GB to 32 GB. I also got a pretty nice set of headphones, as my main thing was going to clubs and listening to music. More recently I upgrades those to a *really* decent set, and bought a nice DAC/amp to go with them. That was mostly due to Apple adding Classical Music to their Music service, but SL got me thinking about nice audio in the first place, I think. So while SL did not lead me to buying clothes IRL, I have spent quite a lot on electronics either directly or indirectly because of SL. I might have gotten into the more powerful computers and better audio without SL eventually, but SL did trigger my purchases in the first place.

I do want to apologize for getting engaged with this thread. I probably should just shut up, as I am not really a forum regular. I will of course respond to any posts directed at me though.

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The answer to the first depends; I cannot recall if the person who posted the list put it forth as views with which they agreed, or if they just posted it as an example of things that someone thinks men believe about women. I was talking specifically about that list, though, I did not comment on the poster themselves. And wrt to second, yes, absolutely.

I already commented on my post, and I still stand by my assessment of that list. You or anyone else may disagree with that assessment (after all it is opinion to a large degree, but here is another word you will dislike, misogyny, and I see that in the list too) but it looks pure incel to me.

who would that be? 'cause I am wondering if you are referring to my post about that list. which I stand by. I was not talking about the thread, and I for sure was not trying to get it locked, I was just commenting on that list, esp since it seemed to held up as what were the unreasonable goals of women, which *is* the topic of this thread, if I understand it correcty if you mean something else, I apologize, sorry...

For sure I will regret this, but: The term was started by a girl, and was sort of despair. It was picked up by poorly-socialized guys who felt they were owed attention and sex by pretty girls. I don't know if these guys even tried to form a relationship with just average, ordinary girls. Most do seem to have attitudes and relationship skills that would make it unlikely most girls with good emotional and mental health would even talk to them though.

No, actually she didn't. She meant exactly what she said, that the list that was posted on one of the early pages in the thread was pure incel. I meant no more nor no less than what I said.

I'm sorry. Very frustrating. I guess the only way to get around it would be to put one of those old school tags over your head stating your gender and sexual orientation; for me: LESBIAN!! NOT INTERESTED IN GUYS!!! Probably a lot of them would take that as a challenge though. Ugh

I guess while his hands are busy she could just whip that thing off. Which leads to whipping a thing out lol Getting *really* OT here, I do not want to get the thread shutdown...

Personally I am more straight-forward, I guess. I would just smile and go up to them (whatever gender), hug them, kiss them, smile some more, and playfully tug at their towel, while softly flirting and encouraging them to redirect from whatever they meant to do next. I mean, you can just meet them in the bedroom when they come out of the bath. We all approach things differently, though, and I can see the fun in what the rest of you are talking about!

whispers, "Sansar..."

I would think iPads with the M chips should handle it fine? The current iPad Mini does not have one, though, and the next gen is at least a year away. Personally, I would guess the biggest shortfall will be LL-related.

Back in the day I used Lumiya a lot. However, I was not expecting much of a visual experience, I was just using text. I hosted a couple clubs and did some other activities where I had to send out group messages, and Lumiya enabled me to do that at work during the day. I also could IM with people, and I liked that too. I am no longer in SL, but I feel any kind of mobile app at all would be of some benefit. Just IMO.

Sorry, I tend to go straight to meanings and miss things a lot. I sincerely was just trying to understand, though, not challenging you!

Thx!

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What we call 'the talking phase' lol. Sure, there are the players and the people who just want a quick sexual experience or want physical and emotionally intimacy without forming a romantic relationship (as you mentioned earlier), but those of us who *do* want a long-term deeper relationship tend to take things more slowly, at least emotionally, I feel (as you also mentioned earlier lol; mostly all I have to do in a thread in which you are participating is to like your posts, because you say everything I feel far better than I ever could). I pass through every once in a while, most just to read your posts lol. I hope that is not creepy, it is just that I always learn from your posts, and you write so well!! I am going to send you a DM with a question about Shakespeare, hope that is ok. I have just struggled for decades with how to read his work and not get immediately derailed by the implicit and explicit misogyny. This is not the place for that though, I would guess lol. I have struggled with that issue a lot lately, though, as I have started reading Shakespeare again, and seeing that you had a show in SL about Women of Shakespeare made me realize you would be a perfect person to ask!!

I still don't get it unless she is naked. And most women that I know tend to put on a robe or something. Even if they were in a towel it would cover everything but their arms and legs. Which, I mean, those are nice too! Love your name btw! As in, I love the name itself, and I like that character. Since I read a certain book, I always picture it as being queer, though, lol. Then again, I do that with most things; I recently read Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, and in my head canon it ended very differently lol (really, just ended in the direction it had been going up until the very end lol). I love your posts, too, very well-thought-out and balanced, IMO. 🤗

Sorry to still be clueless (I am a citizen of the State of Confusion since birth), but is that so the towel will fall off, or just to see all his muscles flexing without clothes in the way? No that it is any of my business ofc, but I could think of some nice role plays, and I have zero interest in how men look lol.

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Sorry, that went right over my head. I personally ask dudes at work to lift stuff for me because, well, they are a lot stronger (at least the ones I ask are), I do not have a problem with doing so. My bigger issue is that I often ask them to help me lift it and they muscle the whole thing themselves. I mean, I can think of some reasons but they just make no sense to me. What I really do not understand is the shower part, sorry.