[What would you do if Linden Lab took away your legs and everything below your waist?]

1 hour ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Remember, they are targeting a much lighter hardware platform.

I'm glad someone is finally developing for the VIC-20 again.

[Is satellite ok with secondlife?]

16 minutes ago, Ardy Lay said:

Left column is basically "The code will execute on it."

Except when it won't. Like on the Radeon 9500. Or when it won't run right, like on the GeForce 6600. I dunno about the Intel GMA950 and I don't wanna find out.

18 minutes ago, Ardy Lay said:

Right column "Might not timeout when somebody plays a gesture."

SL can still run pretty well on the better recommended hardware, with the right settings. Not just jamming everything to low, either. I wouldn't recommend any of it now but it can work okay.

[Viewer Performance Improvements]

It seems to frequently, but not always, coincide with crossing between a parcel using region environment settings and one using parcel environment settings.

[Mac Mini using AMD Radeon HD 6630M Graphics and firestorm]

2 minutes ago, Leo Cloud said:

thanks would this run firestorm? not the second life viewer

The M1 will.

[Mac Mini using AMD Radeon HD 6630M Graphics and firestorm]

AMD HD graphics are ancient, you don't want any part of a Mac with that in it. The Mini with HD6630M graphics is from 2011. It might start SL, but it's going to be unusable.

The 2020 M1 Mini will run SL just fine. That's the only Mini you should buy if you're going to run SL on it.

[Weird Plus Symbols Showing up on my screen]

It's what the avatars with the names over them are looking at. Developer menu > Avatar > Show look at

[MBP M1 Pro (Mac)]

It's been a year since the M1 Macs were released and there's still no sign of a universal binary viewer. When the Intel Macs were released in January '06 there was a viewer in March. At this point I think when something major breaks, that's the end of Mac support for SL.

[Making Second Life look like an AAA game]

5 hours ago, SarahKB7 Koskinen said:

SL isn't a video game though. Why would you want to make SL look like a video game?

It shares the visual characteristics of 3D games. 

5 hours ago, SarahKB7 Koskinen said:

Are flight simulators video games? No, of course not.

They are if the planes have guns. 

[MBP M1 Pro (Mac)]

3 hours ago, Ramen Jedburgh said:

Is there a client that works on the M1 Macs?  They changed the basic architecture to arm or something didn't they?  Doesn't that break a lot of older software?

No, what broke a lot of stuff was macOS Catalina a year earlier when Apple finally cut off support for 32-bit applications. The platform switch to ARM didn't break much at all, and software runs better than it did on comparable Intel Macs.

[What are you listening to?]

 

[New Apple Silicon]

1 hour ago, Coffee Pancake said:

What apple silicon viewer? We still don't have a viewer that doesn't depend on opengl.

Seems like compiling for Apple Silicon would be a lot easier. I'm assuming LL is able to spring for an M1 Mini.

[Adult-rated regions in destinations?]

Go to the destination guide through search, not the toolbar button or world menu.

 

[A better viewer than the recent Firestorm? (March21)]

1 hour ago, KjartanEno said:

@Lyssa Greymoon

Open Debug Settings and  check to see if "RenderDeferredShowInvisiprims: Render invisiprims (prims that hide the avatar) when "Lighting and Shadows" is selected. Only works if your graphics card supports OpenGl v3." is set to TRUE.

It’s a Mac thing then, despite supporting OpenGL 4.1, the viewer is stuck on 2.1. That debug option isn’t available.

[A better viewer than the recent Firestorm? (March21)]

14 minutes ago, KjartanEno said:

I logged in and performed a quick test. I use the Linux version with RLV. I don't know of any specific setting. It just works. Are you sure you're using an invisiprim? They show as green when viewed using CTRL+ALT+T (or Mac equivalent).

Kinda sure. I went to http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Nautilus - Shalim/253/201/23 to check it out and the invisiprims in the drydock acted exactly the same in Kokua (non-RLV) and Firestorm.

[A better viewer than the recent Firestorm? (March21)]

19 minutes ago, KjartanEno said:

1. Kokua still renders invisiprims in advanced lighting mode, which is good for owners of some yachts where the water would otherwise appear inside the hull. Firestorm only renders invisiprims when advanced lighting is off, which isn't quite as nice to look at, assuming one has a good enough computer to handle shadows and reflective water, and one doesn't want to sail a waterlogged boat. 

Is there a setting for this? It doesn't look like invisiprims are being rendered with ALM on in the Mac version.

[Let's Hate Windows 11]

On 10/18/2021 at 5:19 PM, Xocel said:

Second Life viewers (including Firestorm) use OpenGL. Microsoft (who makes windows) and AMD (who make Radeon) treat OpenGL as a second class citizen it seems. Last time I tried to use the Radeon Adrenaline software on Windows to record it would not even allow me to record a game if it used OpenGL instead of DirectX or Vulkan.

FWIW, AMD ReLive will record OpenGL games in a window, but not full screen. Sub-optimal. 

[A better viewer than the recent Firestorm? (March21)]

12 hours ago, RicDelMoro said:

My concern when I started this topic is to help the average user ( my self included ) to enjoy playing and not abandon SL, sorry if some people here have an almost religious frenzy for some TPV viewers.

Not having the same experience as you is not a religious frenzy. I've found Firestorm to be reliable and perform as well as or better than the Linden viewer. Including in extremely crowded venues. I'm happy to give other viewers a spin. So far I haven't found any compelling reasons to switch from FS as my daily driver viewer.

The one thing I see much better on my PC than yours that may be making a difference is the memory. I have more than 8GB in the PCs I run SL on, which may explain why our respective experiences in crowded places are very different.

[A better viewer than the recent Firestorm? (March21)]

The current version runs great for me. Better than any previous version I can recall.

 

[Viewer Performance Improvements]

@Alexa Linden

Is the frame rate supposed to be capped at 60fps? (or anyone else who knows, or is getting > 60fps)

[Let's Hate Windows 11]

7 minutes ago, TDD123 said:

They must be as clumsy in installing and configuring propietary Nvidia-drivers on Linux as you are ..

Installing what?

[Why do viewers hve (such low) limits on bandwidth and cache size?]

Now about that graphics texture memory...

[Let's Hate Windows 11]

46 minutes ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said:

Hello, Mac-user

[Let's Hate Windows 11]

9 minutes ago, Nick0678 said:

 

1980 called and says it wants its ***** back.

[Let's Hate Windows 11]

1 hour ago, Xocel said:

With all the people bringing up the other (better) option of Linux, and the concern of voice chat issues I thought I'd add to this thread by posting instructions on how to get both voice and notifications to work for Firestorm on different distributions. These instructions are also in the pics section on my profile if anyone needs. The instructions are for using the native Linux version for SLvoice, not the WINE one. Here goes:

Can you put that on Hollerith cards for me?

[Should LL Incentivize Use of Smaller Textures By Charging More to Upload Large Ones?]

It would incentivize creators to use 32z32 textures on everything. 🤮