Lyssa Greymoon
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Your CPU can use up to 2GB of system memory for video memory. As soon as it uses all of it, Firestorm is going to start eating memory like mad. Iām not sure why FS reports 8GB. 2GB isnāt enough for 256M draw distance at 1920x1080. Set it to 128M with the settings Fritigern posted. Iād think about dropping the screen resolution to 1600x900 and turning off shadows.
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1 hour ago, Henri Beauchamp said:
That would depend on the differential speed: a native viewer performing 5 to 10 times better than an one running under x86_64 and OpenGL emulations would certainly represent a big incentive...
I'd quit using Second Life before I switched from macOS to Linux.
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Well, if you aren't going to do the obvious and get two more GTX660s...
I don't think upgrading the CPU to a faster 6-core Xeon and a GTX1050ti or 1060 6GB would be unreasonable if a new PC isn't in your budget. You should be able to do that for about a hundred bucks I think. Used, obviously. If you can find another 12GB of memory cheap, Windows and Firestorm would both probably appreciate it.Ā
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On 2/14/2023 at 11:46 PM, TheBenchmarker said:
SL may run better on Professional grade hardware, like a Quadro or Tesla. Quadro's, Titan's and Tesla's from nVidia have specific optimizations in the driver path for CAD and professional applications such as the ones mentioned earlier like Maya and 3DS Max, Revit etc. All of these applications use OpenGL in one way or another and all of them recommend Quadro's. I know somewhere on LL's site it says Quadro's aren't recommended but there's also a current thread from LL talking about how SL runs better on Windows Vista so I think we can safely ignore all of the written documentation for now.
The siren song of the Quadro. None of nVidia's drivers for any of their cards have optimizations for SL. I think when nVidia's pro cards have a real advantage over their consumer cards that matters for SL, it's when they have more VRAM. OTOH, when you're looking at older and more affordable Quadros, you're going to run into cards that are underclocked compared to their consumer counterparts so they can get by without external power connections. Even much older gaming cards without the power constraints will crush those Quadros in SL.
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1 hour ago, Jaylinbridges said:
Why are all automobiles made before 2010 still allowed on the road?Ā Shouldn't the auto companies install self destruct timers in those obsolete cars so they cannot start up ever again, and the government arrest anyone still owning one of those old potato cars?Ā How else are they going to sell you a new car?
You know car makers arenāt required to make parts available forever, right? You can run Windows 7 or 2000 or 3.11 as long as you want, but no one is obligated to make sure their stuff works with your computer.
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2 hours ago, Rick Daylight said:
Yes, of course... Linux is still going strong because it has been updated but it is still 'Linux' at heart. MS could have done the very same with Windows 7
They did. Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10 and 11 are all still NT.
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10 minutes ago, Rick Daylight said:
How long has Linux been around... a lot longer than that! Since 1991 in fact; I was there for that too (I even used real Unix back in the day). Linux is still used. No-one says about that "it's too old, you need to upgrade". Sort of kills the 'it's old' argument dead IMO.
If you're still using that 1991 build of Linux, it's too old, you need to upgrade.
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20 minutes ago, cunomar said:
It has run SL for years as my spare laptop
And now it can't. Because it's an obsolete configuration no one supports, tests against or fixes bugs on.
One thing you can try is download the last version of Firestorm that worked and try using the --channel startup switch to get around the old version block. Right click your Firestorm shortcut and select properties, then in the Target field add --channel cunomar to the end.
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7 hours ago, cunomar said:
i5 M520
There's your problem. It's not Windows 7, it's your 13 year old GPU Intel abandoned support for ten years ago and doesn't meet SL's minimum system requirements. I'm pretty sure you can put Windows 10 on that thing, but it's not going to make anything any better. I have a similarly old Thinkpad around here somewhere running Windows 10 and I don't recall ever being able to run SL on it.
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9 hours ago, Fluffy Sharkfin said:
It's a little worrying that he's received no accolades since 2017, clearly the man is a work-shy slacker!
Mostly for work he did in the early ā90s.
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Yeah, it's okay for SL. In graphics preferences keep support for HiDPI displays disabled, it does nothing but kill performance.Ā
The weak point in iMacs is the terrible mechanical hard drive they use. Fusion drives are okay. Upgrading to an SSD and upgrading the memory are both possible, but the 21.5" iMacs aren't designed it to be done by end users.Ā
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5 hours ago, Charolotte Caxton said:
ok now I can't close it or quit it, ugh. I guess I'll reboot.
Try downloading a new copy of the viewer, October 28th seems pretty old, it may be getting stuck trying to update.
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10 hours ago, Charolotte Caxton said:
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Ok, clear cache in the SL viewer without logging in?Ā
In the Finder, click the Go menu and hold down the Option key, then select Library. Go to the Caches folder and delete the Second Life folder. That should do it. Donāt empty the trash before trying to run SL so you can put it back if it makes things worse. It shouldnāt, but just in case.
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Almost every time Iāve seen something like that, clearing the cache has fixed it. I assume you arenāt running a version of the macOS older than Mojave.Ā
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What happens when you try to run it?
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10 hours ago, Randy Pole said:
That laptop runs Windows 11 S mode - that means it will simply not run any application you try to install from anywhere other that he Microsoft Store. The only way around that would be to buy a license for Windows 11 normal or pro on top of the laptop itself. So no - as it stands that laptop will not run Second Life because it is not available from the Microsoft Store.
You can switch out of S mode in Windows settings and there is no charge for it.
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2 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:
But..but..SL should run on Chromebooks, Cellphones, and Raspberry Pi!!1!!
Nooooo. SL big game, need big game computer, try run Skippo make lights go dim.Ā
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Your requirements are extremely modest, yes it will handle them. If you decide to to much more than Skippo with friends, itās probably going to let you down.
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1 hour ago, animats said:
You mean drop in price? I've had an NVidia 3070 for two years.
This thread is older than your video card.
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8 minutes ago, Henri Beauchamp said:
This has been the case, for years, in TPVs, which all increased the VRAM usage beyond the 512 MB LL stubbornly kept as a limit in their viewers for years...
To placate people who demand SL run on e-waste.
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3 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said:
Disposable (classic?!) bot avatars at an info hub, very representative.
Turn off ALM and a GTS 250 will run SL like a boss. I think Iād call that 2008 SL, not āmodernā SL.
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Ambiguous candy wrappers that trick you into thinking you're getting a delicious lemon flavored treat when it's really banana.
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