[NextUP and other Gacha Replacements are still Gacha]

@Zia Underwood

What do you think about gachas?

[Morality and Law]

Oh, an old monkees song.

 

[Morality and Law]

Just now, Sammy Huntsman said:

Do you mean this song

 

No, it's some oldies song, maybe a Beatles one.

[Morality and Law]

Some shades of gray earworm song keeps going through my mind now😥

[Morality and Law]

Well what if a dear friend or relative was confined to a hospital bed, miserable, suffering, and no way to remedy their situation forever. And they begged you to Unplug Some life saving device that was keeping them alive. Would you do it? Would you break the law Because you love them? And didn't want them to suffer anymore?

[Morality and Law]

1 minute ago, Chris Nova said:

No one. Because civilized people don’t steal. They support each other. If my neighbor and her kids were starving, I would buy them groceries and hook them up with the local food bank. 

Yeah but this is hypothetical. And what if nobody would buy food for you and your child and there was no way for you to get it? So here your child is starving, would you let them starve or would you steal some food for them?

[Morality and Law]

What if your child was starving. Who would break the law to steal food for them?

[Morality and Law]

3 minutes ago, xLunaea said:

To others, risking their jobs, their relationships, and prosecution is worth freedom. Freedom is priceless. Without freedom, over here, you're worth $5million. Life has a price tag.

What are we gonna do with you, lawless Luna?

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

So many interesting things the OP brought up really, that we could have discussed. Especially the part about how vulnerable we are to cultural influence.

So many on this thread expressed how Personal choice is paramount and they would not be influenced by society. That's just not true, however. We are influenced in ways we're unaware of, and we have less choice then we typically imagine.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

1 minute ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

If you have an issue with a particular person you are supposed to take it to IM. So please do that.  You have a few you should be in IM's with.

I'll say it again, this thread is supposed to be about smoking and how it affects us in society. Both real life And second life. Are you saying we're not supposed to stay on topic now?

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

1 minute ago, Chris Nova said:

You spent the last few hours being a nasty person to smokers (your recent one was only a few mins ago) and now you want to go back to talking about the original topic? Freaking wow. 

You deserved it, due to how you treated those you disagreed with.  Can't take what you dish out?

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

Just now, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Take it to IM. Ayleeon doesn't need you to protect or defend him. Usually it's Luna's job to do that for forum members. Don't take that away from her!

I have every right to point out that this thread is way off topic via attacking Ayleeon.

It's time to bring it back to what the OP intended.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

12 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

That it was brought up in regards to what SHOULD be censored seems like a valid point.  Asking WHY it should be censored is quite another and should never have been asked as I would hope to God, we all know why.  That is what people are upset about.

It's just so hard to WK when the position you're behind is so very wrong.

No you've searched far and wide to find something to demonize him over. I've seen this play out 1,000,000 times on forums. You don't like someone or what they said and so instead of dealing with that issue you pick apart things they said or wait until they make a mistake so you can go all out with this demonization. Like I said I can't believe how many times I've seen this play out. He's not Satan. Maybe he didn't communicate clearly Or compared things in ways we don't quite understand or approve of. But that's not the point of this discussion. The discussion needs to be about smoking. This is what was initiated by the OP. The deflection needs to stop.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

Now I do have some sympathy for the poor addicted smelly smokers. I see them hovering together out in the cold, cast away from the warmth In the building where others send critical glances their way. Once they reigned supreme bl,owing smoke into everyone's face wherever they went. But now their freedom has been restricted and others don't feel so kindly toward them.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

3 minutes ago, PermaRuthed said:

This is like some SL version of Godwin's Law: Sooner or later in any online argument, someone will bring up pedophilia.

Don't forget tho, it was Annie who 1st mentioned it.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

Just now, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Yet, no one has a clue what his views are since he refuses to say.

His views on smoking. That's what everybody found fault with. It's what began this whole fiasco.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

I wonder when we can get back to the topic, which is smoking and how it effects people in society. Including virtual worlds. 

I don't think Ayleeon is going to budge regarding his views on smoking, no matter what anybody comes up with to demonize him over.

Of course we can continue on in this deflection. I think he might be a libertarian And I don't like that. He also mentioned something about the confederacy. What else can we come up with to blame him for?  /sarcasm

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

Just now, Rowan Amore said:

I understand perfectly why it is wrong aside from it being illegal.  As I said, we ALL know or should at this point in our lives.  If you need it explained to you, look elsewhere.  

Why can't you explain it? I don't think you know.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:

Does anyone here NOT know why there is a big difference between the two?  Do you seriously need it explained to you?

You didn't seem to understand why pedophelia is wrong. Other than being illegal. I'd like to hear your explanation.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

2 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:

Of course she was the one who brought it up,

Did she? I guess I didn't scroll up far enough.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

3 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

AND I've reported you again

I had no idea that telling someone they're not comprehending the context of discussion is a reportable offense. I mean obviously if you don't know who Annie is then you're not seeing any context or what surrounds the statements he made.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

1 minute ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

No what you did was speak for him and ASS U ME that he was talking in that context. The only scary posts here are yours.

So you don't know who Annie is And so have no idea about the context of the discussion, Yet you are sure In your recognition of the patterns in these transactions?

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

12 minutes ago, xLunaea said:

Yeah, sure.

I won't be commenting any further. As I see no reason to carry on a conversation with people that are literally insane. 

Scary isn't it, how they twist things around so they can demonize someone.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

1 minute ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Who the heck is "Annie"?

Jesus Christ. I've seen some people not be able to comprehend Context but this takes the cake.

[Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability]

27 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Unless he said that to you directly you have no idea that is why he brought it up. He did not post that here. All he posted was comparing the fact that it used to be illegal to free slaves and compared it to pedophilia insinuating that perhaps one day sex with children might be legalized.

I've seen it 1,000,000 times. It's a common pattern to use contrast in this way. Really, I am shocked at how you've twisted this around in the service of making him an enemy. Scary, really.