Desiree Moonwinder
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5 hours ago, Jaylinbridges said:
It's pretty clear that some here think that would be just perfect - no more DJ's or artists, just a building, an internet stream playing, and some dances.
Well the artists are fine; I can see tipping them; they create their own content.
As for the DJs, their legal status is a concern. If there were some way to verify that a DJ were operating legally -- paying royalties and all that -- I would be much more comfortable. We had a recent thread about the legal status of DJs, and the impression that I got from it is that the vast majority are operating in a questionable legal status, to put it mildly.
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On 6/3/2021 at 11:41 AM, Prokofy Neva said:
There is a feature on the land menu where you can charge people to enter your land, let's say if you had a concert or a reading or a fashion show.
I have never seen anyone use it.
When I tried it briefly years ago I realized no one will ever pay into a land menu, not when there are 100 other events they can go to for free.
They will tip an artist or venue owner but not feel constrained by a pay wall.
I was hoping someone would mention the land feature. Its there. It works. I've tested it. Like Prok, I've never seen anyone use it seriously. I've seen some use it as a joke.
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5 hours ago, Emily Nova said:
I don't see what's wrong with spending a little bit of money to support a creator and no one wants to just work on something for months on end only to go unappreciated and talked about as if they were obligated to give you something for free, when they put a lot of hard work into their product.
Nothing wrong with it at all in theory. In practice, the OpenCollar group doesn't have a tip jar out. I asked of of the leaders how to donate, and they said they don't take donations.
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On 5/26/2021 at 2:23 PM, anthonytorino said:
Still to many ripping off youtube and other services, wish they will implement digital static to prevent it. Usually you can tell when its ripped.
Yeah, when I was DJ'ing, I became unpopular because I would not drop my music collection in a dropbox-type folder for "sharing." Perhaps people don't do that anymore because transferring extensive collections may get noticed by net bots. There has to be some reason people are ripping audio off YouTube one-by-one; that's way too much work for the DJs I knew. There was also much pressure to share SAM, Virtual DJ, and other accounts and people got ugly with you for not "sharing." I'm glad I'm out, for it was not all peace, love, and moonbeams.
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7 hours ago, Sid Nagy said:
But, does it mean one can simply ignore the copyrights?
The internet licensing, especially for international streaming of music like the case in SL, still isn't up to par yet.
That makes it very difficult if not impossible to DJ legally correct in SL.
I still haven't found one that has a worldwide coverage for small potatoes streaming like in SL.Then to keep legal, there needs to be a way to allow-or-block so one doesn't stream to countries without license coverage. The technology is out there. I've run into web pages that say I can't view specific material from my location, for example.
In a similar vein, Second Life allows-or-blocks avatars from visiting skilled gaming regions based on location.
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1 hour ago, Jaylinbridges said:
The new 5 year rates for non-commercial non-interactive webstreaming should be released on June 14, 2021 by the CRB. Sound Exchange, the royalty collector for 32 Million sound recordings, has proposed a $1000/yr Minimum fee for webcasters, up from the prior $500/yr. Other companies will follow if the CRB approves this.
Thanks! That's the web site I was looking for a while back. I see the proposed increased from $500 to $1000 minimum per year. That's a big step. Wonder how many SL DJs will get hit by that?
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8 hours ago, Sid Nagy said:
I just found a company who deals with international streaming.
They only charge 500 USD annually for one international non commercial stream.
And then you're good in 30+ countries (so still not all).
😱Wow! That's great. Like 90% cheaper than what I was finding so long ago!
I wonder if any of the streaming services available to small-timers can block countries other than those in which one is licensed? I've run into that myself while traveling abroad.
It's the internet equivalent of those inexpensive DVDs you find in the developing world that won't play on Western DVD players. There are different licensing rates in different rates for other parts of the world.
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I do all my complicated stuff in a non-experience script, and then pass the results to an experience script that I leave full perms so others can apply their experience key if they wish.
Example:
integer iCh = //some random integer;
default
{
state_entry()
{
;
}on_rez(integer start_param)
{
// On_rez Handling;
}changed(integer change)
{
// Change Handling
}link_message(integer sender_num, integer num, string str, key id)
{
if(num == iCh)
{
// Link Message Handling;
llRequestExperiencePermissions(id, "");
}}
experience_permissions( key agent_id )
{
// Activity Handling;
}
experience_permissions_denied( key agent_id, integer reason )
{
// Error Handling;
}
}
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Is there any practical way to DJ using popular mainstream songs legally in SL anymore? By 'legally,' I mean paying the necessary royalties. By 'practically,' I mean affordably, which I admit is subjective, but let's say for a few hundred dollars per year.
I realize that one can buy royalty-free music, and I have done so. I own a few-hundred-dollar collection of royalty-free music, and I carefully preserved the receipt and license that came with it. I have used that to create 24/7/365 background mood music at roleplay SIMs in the past. But people don’t DJ background music. They DJ popular songs for which one must pay royalties.
Another particular case involves performers who compose, record and play their music or perform live. That’s not what I mean by DJ’ing either.
I did much DJ’ing about ten years ago. I used Virtual DJ Pro, which I liked for many technical and artistic reasons (e.g., you could hand-scratch on a virtual turntable). Additionally, Virtual DJ Pro had an online song service that would let me pull up virtually any song to play if I happened to get a request outside of my extensive collection. The only exceptions were the Beatles, AC DC, and a few others with particular restrictions. I also used SAM because it was a lot more powerful if you wanted to go ‘hands-off’ and let the machine drive while making coffee.
At about the same time, Virtual DJ Pro dropped their song service, and the SAM DJ’ing system began cross-marketing royalty engines to keep one legal, at least in part. I say ‘in part’ because the royalties were particularly tricky if one had listeners in smaller countries without the necessary trade treaties.
The problem was the price of the licensing services. The licensing services had minimum fees that cost beyond what I considered hobby money, especially if one bought all the international options necessary for Second Life—and even so, one was still uncovered for some countries. Once I became aware of the evolving legal situation, I quit DJ’ing.
Sure I got tips as a DJ, but they never covered my costs on streaming software and services, but hey, what’s a few hundred dollars a year for a hobby? Keeping up with the new legal regime would cost me several thousand dollars a year, which took it out of the hobby category.
I have noticed that the rules and laws about online streaming kept tightening over the years. I think we are past the point where someone can claim ignorance of the royalty aspects of streaming without crossing over into willful blindness territory, which may be fun on forums but doesn’t absolve you in court.
Maybe royalty services have gotten cheaper. If I could DJ legally for what I consider hobby money, I might start back. It was fun!
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14 hours ago, Nalates Urriah said:
Since there is no credible answer and that is what Wade is pointing out... wouldn't he be credible on this topic?
Still seems you are hung up on 'who' says something.
An important part of how Cancel Culture works hinges on the ability to dismiss otherwise valid arguments by proving the speaker at one point in their past engaged in some behavior or held some belief that was common before iPhones existed.
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What I found most interesting was manufacturers beginning to offer covert high airflow masks.
I'm not talking about the mesh masks that are designed to be obvious. I'm talking about carefully selected materials with high optical opacity and high airflow.
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The tendency to form cartels is a residual from latent patriarchal power structures.
That being said, letting a patriarch snap on opencollar around your neck can lead to a fun weekend romp, maybe more!
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Blocking doesn't do much good. They can still buy you L$1 items on CasperVend and send you creepy gift notes.
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Buy Fee Change Discussion
Okay. I'm blond. Where can I buy a fee change? I bought a region buy-down fee some years ago.
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Do you think its coincidental that the number of groups (i.e., 42) just happens to be the same as "The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything," as told in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams?
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Back before no-fault divorces, one spouse would withhold conjugal visits to drive the other spouse to cheat, and thus obtain a better divorce settlement. I think this is still practiced in some high-end divorces. Its also important for psychological reasons to make the other person the 'bad guy' when explaining a breakup to family.
What you have to ask yourself is whether she's
(A.) Mad because you didn't come to her for attention, or
(B.) Mad because you found an outlet for your energies that may not be as useful to her--whether in a court of law or the court of public opinion.
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Who knows? She is probably asking herself why you are not coming to her for the attention.
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41 minutes ago, Bree Giffen said:
Yes, I think a legislative group within SL would work well. We should give them an autonomous zone to practice their lawmaking powers.
Agreed. I further suggest that the ancient Corn Field be the autonomous zone on which they do so.
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On 5/12/2020 at 10:32 AM, Dayve8 said:
PROBLEM SOLVED. All I had to do was uncheck "3D Cursor" in the Joystick Configuration screen (if you click SpaceNavigator Defaults, it will be checked again). It functions wirelessly when connected to "3DConnexion Universal Receiver" or wired when connected to "Spacemouse Wireless". Movement was sluggish in Flycam and in the pitch & yaw axes of Avatar movement, I had to increase the values. Took me 3 days to find this solution (it was actually suggested for an entirely different joystick), hope it helps someone else.
Oh ... yes, it works fine with the driver uninstalled.
I have two different wired versions and one wireless version. My wireless one does not work well in wired mode. In all cases, I install the driver to test the unit, and then uninstall the driver. In SL, it works fine without the driver.
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1 hour ago, NikolaosSakamoto said:
I let people live for free, is that close enough?
Probably not. Most Role Play (RP) SIMs let people live for free. Many are totally empty. On the clubbing scene, clubs pop up all the time that try to establish a clientele by offering prizes for visiting.
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I listened to the entire video, which I now regret. My reaction is, "why are these people talking at all?" The Sansar Project was the #1 priority, and now it is a complete unmitigated failure. When your #1 priority fails, you have no credibility, and are no longer worth listening.
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2 hours ago, Tolya Ugajin said:
I admittedly do not sim hop much, but I have not once in 12 years landed on a sim and received an invitation to a paid group. Also, an offer to join a group given upon landing on THEIR land or parcel hardly fits the definition of "spamming". It's like claiming every television and radio ad is spam.
Rather than legislating a solution to a non-problem (and, even if it is a problem, it is only a problem for people who cannot be bothered to look where they click) there are multiple existing solutions. You could, for instance, use all your group allotments, to force you to pause and leave another group to join the new one.
The solution for people who cannot be bothered to look before they click twice (there is a second confirmation) is perhaps to frequent these forums rather than SL.
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listening without tipping: yea or nay?
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There is the source IP address and the destination IP addresses for any regulatory issues, and the country locations tied to the IP addresses. Country locations are relevant because licensing terms are different in different countries.
There is no need for regulators to come in-world; the IP addresses say it all. Likewise, there is no "for-profit" or "not for profit" distinction for royalties.
The inworld issue is a moral one for the listeners.