PhantomPixel

I think it depends which part of the forum you are in. Most of the trolls I notice tend to hang out in General Discussion. However if you are seeking advice in say....Scripting or Building then I tend to notice trolls far far less. Having said that though, there aren't THAT many trolls in General but I do see your point.

Not at all, I appreciate what you originally said I just disagree with some of it. I do agree with you on the first part of your response though, if they do get sansar to that level then by all means lets use Sansar. But in terms of this thread..as I stated above I was just curious. Also, I am more than aware how difficult it would be to make a basic rigging system like that. I was just suggesting it as one way to think about it. I know there would be far more to it than what I stated. Im only basing my knowledge off how the user end process of rigging works in blender, I'm definitely not an expert on the matter. More than happy to accept that this is probably impossible but at the same time....its a feature I would love to see someone pull off. Btw dont take the tism comment personally. I didn't mean it in a way to literally say you had autism or as an insult to anyone with autism so I apologise if thats how it made you feel. I meant in a playful way to stop taking things literally as if I'm demanding these features.

Troll : One who seeks to gain a reaction from an individual or group of people. I dont believe I did that.

Oh it does, you just don't know what it is. Its slang.

I was playfully poking fun at her. Il say the same to you that I said to her....dont tism out too hard over it

Sansar is not SL2.0, even the Lindens have stated that it is not SL2.0. They may share some similarities but they are totally different beasts going down totally different paths. Your missing the point of what I was saying. I wasn't talking about doing it in the way Sansar has. I was talking about a fully revamped version of SL in a whole new world with greater features added to what already works in the existing one, therefor enhanced LSL. Creating your script and seeing its results in real time alongside others who are either helping or critiquing vs on your own in a IDE maybe?. Also keeping the immersive experience of the new world without needing to install 23424 other programs?. Once scripting is fully implemented in Sansar you are going to have to go off and learn C# and what all of the available libraries that sansar as access to can do before you are able to make anything too meaningful like...some kind of game or other experience. Having an in world scripting client allows the user to learn IN GAME and see their results in real time and have fun doing it. Not all developers are super hardcore individuals who autism out over having things the best possible way for them. Some people just want to open SL and start designing something...hence why we should carry that theme over if SL2.0 was ever a thing. See second to last sentence in #2 and parts of #3 See second to last sentence in #2 and parts of #3 Other programs have built in or installable bitbucket support. Case in point the external editor Atom. See second to last sentence in #2 and parts of #3 See #3 So your comparing the ability to move points, move edges and generate a few random trees and some grass as being the equivalent of building Maya into it? Grow up kiddo As opposed to what, new users being kicked and banned by age restrictive products and as stated in a post above, causing them to take offence and quit SL for being banned, in their eyes, for technically nothing. Even the lab doesn't agree with you here as they finally accepted it after years of people trying as a potential new feature. So they must like the idea to some degree. Also others have voiced support for it so.....enjoy that branch on your lonesome... Were you not around when SL had clouds?. They weren't animated mesh floaty things you know, it was a full on cloud mist that was around 500m upwards and extended for maybe another few hundred more. It was seriously neat. Plus whats wrong exactly with a weather system. I know lets just stay static and never progress in anything and remain stagnant. I created a village once inside the cloud and it was like having literal mist moving around you, something I have yet to see from windlight. Im aware of how rigging works but at the same time there are ways I think you could accomplish a basic automatic rigging feature. For example weights copied from the default skeleton with the option to select which bones you do not wish to copy from and then sliders that simply adjust strength and also blend. Might work might not....but still a feature to consider. Look this thread was supposed to be nothing other than some fun. Not something to be taken super seriously. The lab will never create SL2.0, they are fixated on Sansar. I was just curious is all what people would want to see in a new version of SL if it ever was to be created. Try not to tism out too much over it otherwise your gonna give yourself a hernia ?

You know whats hilarious. I suggested that exact same thing in a Jira probably around 2 years ago and was told "Its not within the scope of....*insert reason here*". Im happy someone actually finally got that accepted, well done!.

There are several forum posts, blog posts and other sources explaining this. Also a video link in a locked thread near the top of General Discussion that has the video from the last linden town hall meeting where these things are discussed if you want to watch it.

As I'm the OP I thought I should probably list the features I would love to see... --Scripting (Because scripters never get enough lab love in my opinion)-- 1. A revamped LSL scripting language. Perhaps designed to be similar to languages with more simplified syntax such as Swift or Python with class objects, switches, new functions to allow rotation of the avatar etc etc etc 2. A revamped script editor in world with enhanced debug options such as stepping through your code. 3. Custom libraries to be added so scripters can store their own custom functions and call them via something like : import funcAESToString() and then later on in the script be able to call that function. 4. Linden libraries that can let you import pre made setups for items such as vehicles. E.g : import vehicleLLCar, that you can then modify to suit your own end. 4. Native Bitbucket / GitHub support. 5. Redesigned particle system to be brought more in line with the kind of particles and effects you can create in Unity and other similar softwares. 6. All scripting still kept in world... --Building-- 1. I would like to see a variation of prims carried over but more enhanced than what we have at the minute. Perhaps with basic mesh modification options such as being able to move and stretch points and edges. With new shape types added such as cogs, hexagons, flat planes (basically a single flat poly with one face). Also the max sizes increased to 128x128 or 256x256. 2. A process added that is similar to Prim 2 Mesh. If you create something and link it you can convert it to a DAE object which gives it a much lower land impact cost. 3. Trees, plants, grass creation tools by default. 4. All building still kept in world..... --Land-- 1. Increased region sizes. I would be happy with double what we have now so 512x512. 2. New type of terrain, maybe voxel...maybe other...that allows for greater modification of the terrain in your region. Perhaps the terrain even divided up into multiple texture squares so you can apply more than 4 textures to create something truly unique. 3. Ability to set on a regional control panel the minimum age of avatars that are allowed in the region such as 1 day, 30 days, 60 days etc. 4. A realistic rain and weather system including clouds....I miss clouds in second life....it was fun to build inside of them. 5. I would say cheaper but to be fair I understand that the lab has to make money somehow, so, more value for the same money (see above). --Mesh-- 1. Some kind of automated rigging program on import that auto rigs the object with a default set of weights that you can modify for each bone with sliders. Similar to how shapes in SL work. 2. Complexity cap. Set high enough so people can still bring in models that are fairly detailed but not so high that we end up with a plant pot that has 600 land impact (Yes iv seen some..). --Other Stuff-- 1. Create folders inside of objects to help organise large projects that require lots of animations, scripts, notecards, sounds etc etc. 2. Longer sound clips, maybe 60 seconds?. 3. An idea for Sansar ported to SL 2.0 which is creating one parent account and then being able to create sub accounts aka your avatars from that parent account that all share the same inventory. 4. Support for VR for those that want to use it. 5. Reliable controller support. 6. Some kind of automated viewer tutorial for new players that points them around the basic use and operation of the viewer. That will do for now xD

This is the winning feature so far

Time for a random fun....what if thread! Okay so, lets suppose that LL had decided to develop SL 2.0 as opposed to Sansar. What new features would you love to see in SL 2.0 and what features would you carry over from Second Life and how would you improve them?.

Its pretty dead. Lets be honest. Yes there are people using VR and yes applications are being developed for VR but in terms of the hype and pick up they thought it would have...its dead. VR in my opinion as it stands is a fad that has a long long long way to go before it becomes something seriously mainstream. There are too many barriers right now for the average person to pick it up on a regular serious basis. Motion sickness, cost, limited amount of VR experiences etc etc are just some of the issues facing it. Im more excited by the various developments of augmented reality glasses than I am VR. That will come eventually. They have said several times that there will be a Sansar viewer for Mac at some point, probably not any time soon though

You never told me it was a friend, you made it seem like it was some random that just messaged you when you entered a sim xD. Then your fine, the only reason I said you might get banned is because recently iv seen people be given amounts as low as 2k by people acting weirdly and suddenly their account is on hold due to *insert reasons of money here*. If is a friend giving you money then thats fine, keep it, spend it, take yourself to one of the adult sims and find yourself a nice sex starved kink zombie who will exchange you a fun night for some new hair!.

I am curious what this limit is. I was trying to remember a password for an old account a few days ago and must have easily tried 60+ different possibilities of what I might have chosen as a password at that point and never received any message from the viewer or website that I now had to contact support.

All this palaver over system vs mesh. If you want to wear a mesh head and a mesh body then wear a mesh head and a mesh body. If you want to use the system body then use the system body. Who actually cares. I switch back and forth depending on how I feel and quite honestly not a f*** is given to what anybody else thinks of it. As for those of you talking about people wearing mesh bodies in adult sims and not being attracted to system bodies, its a graphical avatar on a screen and has no correlation to the person that is actually behind the avatar. I never understood, perhaps except in terms of the complexity of some of these models, why people get to hung up on system vs mesh. If you want to wear one then wear one, if not then don't

I don't understand how you can judge anyones head when yours look like a 10 year old boy dressing up as a middle aged mom

Hmm in 2128....well....the following..... -The sex starved, sex crazed zombie population will have boomed. Hoards of avatars desperate for any and all forms of intimate humans contacts will leave the adult only areas and roam the grid while the last few remaining normies fight them off from behind prim walls with the swords made from the last remaining bones of Torley Linden -Oz Linden will have realised his life dream and fully integrated his essence into the SL grid and will become the all seeing all knowing Linden Artificial Intelligence more commonly known as "The Wizard" -You can guarantee that there will still be that one guy begging for 300 lindens towards rent with promises that they will pay you back later because "oh please!" -Wannabe moms will STILL be giving birth to hideous freaky looking prim babies and then neglecting them for months on end while they argue amongst themselves over who stoles who's mans and why that ***** is gonna have her wig removed -Sansar finally leaves beta.. -The cost of avastar rises for the 482nd time and you now have to pay monthly for support instead of yearly causing a recession in world as creators realise they can no longer afford to rig clothing at a profitable cost -Someone finally figures out how to remove that enforced Firestorm Experience from your experiences list and resurrects the angry ghost of Jessica Lyons in the process who sets forth to claim the soul of heretic that accomplished it

I feel like this smells of "A avatar down the tavern told me..." Do you have any idea how many people have threatened me on my main account over the years?. How many times iv heard the utter nonsense "I know a linden I can have your account banned" or the ever famous "I can get your IP address" or the other ever famous "You have no idea who you are talking to and the people I know, my boyfriend knows the CEO of SL". The best one was someone trying to convince me that THEY were in with the in crowd who was in with the Linden crowd and sat on a government that ruled over SL... And heres the thing....NOTHING ever comes of it. They are 100% of the time some jumped up self inflated idiot with a exaggerated sense of self importance that may have passed a linden once in a sandbox and said "hi", trying to scare you into doing as they say or respecting them or *insert reason here*...or they are just a flat out liar and enjoy making others think they are more important than they are. I have taken to accepting peoples challenges these days. Only 6 months ago someone said to me on this account, in front of all their friends who for some reason thought this person was god, "You know I can find your IP address, I am looking at it now....one second while I bring it up" (now this already had me laughing because if you can't be looking at it if you have to bring it up) and this persons friends were like "Yeah he really can, you have no idea who you are messing with". So, I brought up my IP address on my screen and directly challenged him to do so, went out of my way to goad him into it and suddenly he started avoiding the challenge and eventually went completely quiet and then...teleported away. GG There is some simple advice that for some reason hardly anyone ever follows in SL.....MUTE MUTE MUTE MUTE MUTE MUTE. There is a block button for a reason, it will cut off ALL forms of communication from that particular avatar. Then you just go about your day and ignore the muted jelly doll of shame that might occasionally appear next to you. I have lost count now of the amount of times that I have heard people complaining like "Omg all she does it IM me making threats and saying she gonna steal my man and take off my hair. Im so pissed right now been going on for 6 months".....MUTE......MUTE.......MUTE. Some people make complaints....but the truth is....they just love the drama and attention. Nuff said

Wahhhhhhhh 54 euros, I read the example pages and il be honest I can't say that it really captured my attention. I paid less than that for "scripting your world" back in 2008 and that was a how to guide for EVERYTHING SL coding at the time.

Ebbe Question : When are the new tiers of premium being released and can you reveal any further details about them?. Such as what the different tiers of premium will offer and what they might cost?

Ebbe Question : What is the ETA on allowing us to speed up and slow down animations via a script?.

Ahhh I was wondering whether it was login or acc creation. Websites back then tended to have both in one.

Here is seconds life website from 2004. Notice on the top right how you can enter your own first and last name. https://web.archive.org/web/20040701041742/http://secondlife.com:80/about/

Ebbe Question : Would the lab ever consider updating the built in build tools for SL aka prims. Would you consider making a new type of buildable object to go alongside the old prims that would allow us to move and manipulate points and edges? Note to those reading this question : I know this will never happen and its a random question but if we can ask anything then why not

You realise that "partnership or marriage badge on the profile" already exists on the profile right.....its called the partner box.....idk how you have missed that since you started in 2014 but there we go . If you are with someone in SL then add them as your SL partner and it will display on your profile who your partner is for all to see. Also as much as we like to think so sometimes....SL is not a dating site and tbh I dont want my relationship status of single or taken displayed on my profile for all to see, if your so desperate to have your partner listed to the world then use the already present partnering system which will display on your profile.. Also, you say "people could buy the slots for more group room or premium".....you CAN already do that by paying for premium each month which will increase the amount of groups you can join. Finally, "some adults need to be able to find the classy romantic places with more dancing and connection with out the bang bang"....have you tried searching "dancing" in search?. I can see several places that list romantic dancing as a keyword with no other keywords relating to sex or anything similar. Searching romantic produces even better results. However, you will be hard pushed to find somewhere in SL that is free of perverts who are going to proposition you for sex, it just won't happen. Adult SL whether on the hardcore or romantic side is filled with sex crazed lonely zombies desperate for some kind of avi/human contact. Even the PG side of SL has them, whether I go to a anime sim, rp sim, combat sim, hangout or store...there is always someone trying to hit on someone else. Its part of Second Life, you just have to accept it and if someone asks you for sex....do what I do.....mute them and move on and forget about it.