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Not set up right .. group land not being deeded is pretty common. So you get the warning and nothing happens.

Tilia came into existence to provide distinct legal mechanisms for exchanging money for tokens and back again, that was the part of the operation that was under scrutiny.. It has nothing to do with the L$ itself or how it's used. Tilia provides the same services to other platforms including VRChat. L$ are not money, they can be bought and sold for money. Cakes are not money, they can be bought and sold for money. Govt doesn't care about the cakes, they care about the money.

Nooo non ono no noonon no. The L$ is a token. A worthless token. It does not have any govt oversight or any kind. It's not even on the same page as a crypto coin. See the ToS. It might as well be called gems or blasts or beans.

There are many ways to find out someones alts. The easiest and most reliable being to ask them.

Oh these forums, lol .. not a chance. Half the regulars are only here to troll each other within an inch of the rules.

Lets so some MATH - Say you make a TREE - You spend one WEEK on the TREE - Sell that TREE for L$199 because that the price set by the market. How long does the TREE have marketable value, will LL release new tools that make your TREE TRASH before it has had chance to earn the required amount? How many trees do you have to sell to attain parity with a min wage burger flipping job? 1000 TREES with a 2 year shelf life? That's L$199000 ! A whopping US$796 for a weeks work, of which you get to keep 60% after Linden fees and income tax. US$477 total spread over two years. (Which is pretty terrible, and doesn't compete with the min wage job that will include a corporate rate healthcare plan and other perks. You likely need land to show off your items and that gets expensive fast for outdoor stuff) What if this tree is a DUD and it doesn't sell, for no discernible reason. What if the actual SL economy is event driven and you have two week in which to make 80% of your sales for TREE and they want L$9000 to book a stall. A bad stall off to the side. All the good ones are assigned to the event operators friends. What if someone rips off your TREE and sell it for L$50 in the weekend sales.

Philip wanted to make a physical immersive VR haptics rig (which is is still perusing, see his YT channel). He did not dream up this mess. SL is what happened when his developers and testers starting playing with the tools while he wasn't looking. None of this mess was not on purpose. When it came time for him to put on his big boy CEO pants, he was charmingly terrible and didn't last long.

Couple of points ... "this is a hobby" The workload required to make a thing has increased exponentially, so has the tooling required. Once upon a time anyone could rub some prims together and call it a hat, but not anymore. SL now requires industry skills, software and a high degree of competency with those tools. SL is also weird, so special knowledge of the platform is often required in addition. Things take considerable amounts of time to make, test and debug. As much as this might be a disposable hobby that could all close tomorrow for some here, it consumes the time and labor of a real job to make the content. SL business owners are often working 60 to 80 hours a week, just to turn out something you all think they should be able to make in their spare time while doing another job. "sucks to be them, they should get a real jerb" You do all realize the kinds of people who end up in SL right. The name of the place is kind of a hint. Some quit their real jobs to work here, plenty didn't have or couldn't have real jobs in the first place, and rather than wanting to support people who are finding ways to be productive and self sufficient...... Running a recognizable brand here is a full time job, and as anyone who has been self employed will know, when you work for yourself, you are never away from work. Try working where you play. The fun evaporates pretty fast. SL is a high pressure working environment with constant deadlines, customer service headaches and fractional incomes that can be wiped out by one person leaving a crappy marketplace review. Burn out is a real problem, no one takes any time off (because they can't). "everything should be cheeeeeep" Even if we increased prices by a factor of ten, it still would be cheap, and that's not what I'm suggesting at all. I'm suggesting that the L$ presents a high apparent value, and that this exerts a downward pressure on the entire economy. Also ...

Real sugar daddies don't pay with L$

If they weren't called Linden DOLLARS and American DOLLARS maybe you would have a point.

No I'm not. My problem is with the apparent value of L$ once in SL.

That's your opinion, obviously I disagree. yet your input into the economy would be unchanged...

Carefully ignoring the fact he has ONE hours work and in the example, every single person at an 80 person event tipped. We all know no more than 10% of attendees tip at all, and that events rarely run to 80 people. The cost of hiring a DJ for a real world event is more like $700 US for 3 hours of performance time.

Say you were making clothing. Time from inception to store is about a week's work full time hours. You have to make the item, hand paint it 14 different shades and do 6 special patterns for the fat pack, rig it for 6 bodies, box art, documentation, set up huds and packages, list it and get up in a store or at an event. You keep 60% of the money you make after fees and tax and you get no paid time off, no healthcare, etc etc/ Still happy with a buck fiddy? He made $17 an hour for ONE hour. Is min wage (which is not a livable wage) really the benchmark here? How is he paying for his comfortable home.

That's a wonderful sentiment, meanwhile ... in the real world where stuff is made by real people who need to eat.

Oh I'm not kidding. You're all out here making considered purchases over items too cheap for Dollar Tree. Who's the fool.

The L$ is in dire need of being revalued. The high number of 'Linden fun monies' per real USD creates the false impression that small amounts of L$ have more value than they actually present. 1 real money American dollar is worth 100 pennies. 1 Linden dollar isn't even worth that. L$1000 is not a lot of money, but it looks and sounds like it might be. L$10,000 .. wow, that's obviously a fortune!! The difference between L$499 and L$299 is about a fun sized candy bar, you know, the size that isn't fun. But it's psychologically enough to make someone think twice about a purchase. Did you tip a DJ L$100 for an hours entertainment. What if the entire crowd, as big as it can be at 80 all people tipped (and we all know most don't tip a bean) L$100. L$8000 !! WOW !! .. US $32 .. that's US $17 after fees and income tax. .. It's a bit yikes once you do the math isn't it. We're selling ourselves short, delivering hand crafted Etsy artistry at prices too cheap for Temu, and complaining about it. All while our core life blood content creators literally starve trying to compete with content farms and piracy. This needs fixing.

Everyone listed on that page with the exception of Eric & Anya (Patch & Grumpity) are also listed as being part of Tilia's executive team .. which on the whole seems far more well established (including 4 directors and a CTO) https://www.tilia.io/about Feeling a bit like the ugly red headed step child over here ... you know, the one that's been looking after the entire family on their own the whole time. Can't wait for new house rules.

That would be a Jedi mind trick, one would not want to question your commitment.

Hell no. Some wont be happy till the world is burning and all their imagined enemies are hurting.

It wont stop people trying to leverage the rules to get avatars belonging to certain social groups banned .. you know, for existing.

Oh yes, that will work.

They post on reddit asking why they got banned. Their posts don't even see the light of day as we can't help them and letting the community debate their ban with a presumption of wrong doing never ends well. LL have learnt the hard way that if they draw a line, someone will walk right up to the line and mash they face up against it screaming "SAFE!". Judgement calls are part of the problem through, we've seen bans waves that seemed to target specific demographics that whoever was playing governance at the time didn't like. Anime and femboys seem to get the worst of it.

Likely because it was used by here by people defending themselves from accusations and employees just went with the term. Words shape outcomes, and sometimes the verbiage needs to be revisited to ensure the intended meanings and outcomes are clear. This is especially true when dealing with people. Over the years the term has drifted to encompass anything that might be considered "ick" to SL's aging majority demographic. The barely legal look more and more like little children as time passes because at this point, anyone looking under 25 might as well be a child. So should a barely legal (YET LEGAL) teen join SL and make an avatar that looks like them, the entrenched instinct here is to make it rain fire. Nukes on fire if they dare to lean into a kawaii cute makeup style (omg toddler faces). If we want actually real life young adults (18-25) to join and stay in SL, we are going to have to accept they might want to look their age or role-play family.