Chery Amore

I don't disagree with the nurturing part to have a relationship grow but.. you can still initially meet people in this way. It's worked for me anyway. I "advertised" on an alt, although she was my main at the time and one bite turned into a 7 year relationship. I do agree it helps to post as much as you are comfortable posting, interests ect. You might have to weed through the responses though and then vet them. That's life. I don't think there is anything wrong with using the forums for trying to make friends, it's just one more way to put yourself out there. Many places are dead in second life including groups, so yeah.. it's not always easy to meet people in those ways.

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Dear Linden Lab, We the residents of Second Life like bacon. Vegetarian options not allowed except waffles and tacos. Please, a pony would really

My actual friends don't usually have some extreme opinion that I'm not already okay with. Although I can't think of many extreme opinions I have. I probably do though to some. Again it usually boils down to someone trying to control how others should live or what they believe. It wouldn't include something like if they had a foot fetish... eww.. but I'm not going to defriend them over having a weird kink that doesn't hurt anyone. Although I do like people with a sense of humor so would be better if I could poke a tiny amount of fun about our differences.. and they can do the same back under the umbrella of friendship and real mutual caring. It's part of the vetting process for me I guess. Now family.. whew.. that's different you can love and accept someone with different beliefs but you can also dislike them depending on how they are about those beliefs. Do they try to shove them down your throat? Yeah nope, nope. I had a toxic mother .. I seriously think she had Borderline Personality Disorder, not that she would have ever believed this or gotten help for it. I accept that she was the way she was and can even appreciate much of what she did that was good and caring with some reflecting, but if I could have known and chosen not to be exposed to that type of person I would have.

I can accept that people are the way they are .. absolutely. It doesn't mean I agree with them or want to give them space in my world or head. Say someone comes and knocks at my door to give me the "good news". They are probably a basically nice person but I don't believe what they do or at least in the way they do it. I also don't agree with the way they go about spreading that news. Therefore I don't have to invite them in to sit at my table.. it's a waste of time and energy for me. Although I can usually be cordial until they get pushy about how right they are and how wrong I am. That's where I draw the line. I still accept that they are who they are though and usually can wish them best far away from me. I can accept people, but there needs to be some common ground and often a similar outlook on life for me to let them in and appreciate them. Same holds true for second life.

You might be surprised what he understands since I play a complete bimbo in sl... even though I'm not so of one in in reality. We've had many conversations about split personalities using different avatars and other topics around this. We keep it light because, bleh.. last thing I want is to do heavy here. I do see people assume all sorts of things about him. It's pretty funny, but whatever.. it's definitely not surprising. But he does like to troll he has the mug for it.... so yes there is that.

She must need a break cause that store def must have been making some good real life money.

Annnd what would you teach your daughter to do in a situation like this for the problem at hand in second life? Not for some future utopia but right now? It's not that hard. Don't respond.. mute and ignore. There are jerks and there are not jerks.. and even some in between. I really doubt the in between ones are going to learn what you want them too by being preached at and belittled.

No.. the answer is to block and ignore people that you can not deal with. I'd go further and suggest if no tools at our disposal works in a way that someone can feel safe here.. in a virtual world. They need to log out and touch grass. You can also put something on your profile that indicates what you want and do not want in sl if you are not looking for people to approach you in that way. When people don't read your profile .. and it will happen so brace yourself if that bothers you.. you can chose what to do then. If you can't deal with making a simple statement back you can block and ignore all them icky men-folk. Me - I just chuckle and say no in my own way-- and it works. I know you can't be suggesting that men not approach women at all .. because some people want to be in relationships. I know you indicated its only for "sexual favors" but it isn't... Some men say hi because it's a way to try to start a relationship or even just a friendship. Maybe they just want a dance to not be alone for awhile or to share some other interest. Yes, I know most seek sex at some point but so do some women. Some women appreciate an approach because they expect it and appreciate it. People can't read minds and men as the ones that are normally expected to approach often have to do so blindly. They also have to do it knowing they will probably face rejection. So no.. I won't accept that women can't just learn to say no in a virtual world. I won't accept that a minority of people that believe they are more evolved get to dictate the rules for everyone else either. A lot of things are annoying to some people in this world. You have to learn how to deal with life practically and constructively if you want some peace. Someone begging for money in sl. Just say no.. or don't say anything at all.. Someone pasting a phishing link in chats.. learn not to click. A nice AR is helpful also. Some jerk being aggressive about anything block and mute. Guess what? Guys have to do this too. Some guy saying hi.. hoping for something more? Yeah why all the angst? It's really not that hard to say no I'm not interested.

People have such different experiences or... I guess reactions to things. I present in sl in a way that I absolutely expect to get IM's from men, but they have gone down over the years.. I was talking to a woman that ran a club that noticed this also... and see this echoed in the thread from some. That constant stuff just doesn't happen as much anymore. In the last year or so I get more aggression from women or those presenting as women. They seem to be more bold and pushy when hitting on me. Also if you act nice in return with a firm no.. it seems to be a challenge to them. Yucko. Those ones I have to just ignore and go on with my day. Men are easy.. they are trying cause they have too. They by and large have to be the ones to approach if they want to get anywhere. It's expected of them. Friendships, romantic partners, whatever. So when they send me a compliment or even just a hello type of opener I'm nice back. I give them the "no" and because it's fun for me to do, I do it in a flirty in character way. More often than not there is a well darn I tried kinda answer on their end. It leads me to believe that they get a lot of nastiness back from a simple approach and return the energy they just received. Just saying. Now and then I get a crude one and those are just funny as heck to me. I rub my hands together in glee when that happens. "Nice (whatevers)!" "Yes! they really are right! My boyfriend loves them!", I reply. Usually it shuts them down quick with very, very few exceptions. I really think they expect me to bark at them. I can't remember the last time anyone got mean with me in world. It's weird. This thread was entertaining! OP if it bothers you and using those tools that sl provides makes you feel better in sl... Use them!

I'm out shopping weekend sales now in sl. And basically every store I go to has very young looking faces, anime inspired to some extent usually. Since I'm shopping for waifu-reborn clothing it might be even more prominent in the stores I go to I guess. I would put the faces at probably at maybe between 12 and 16? .. on voluptuous bodies. I never really thought about it deeply and never had a problem seeing it in ads. They look cute to me even if I don't pattern myself after them. I will say if I was policing an adult venue and I saw the same head/skin on a skinny adolescent looking (to me) body I would see them as underage and wouldn't welcome them to my venue. I might also if I saw the same face type on a voluptuous body.. depending on what they are wearing otherwise. The snot bubble description from Rowan earlier comes to mind.. hopscotch ao ect. The Linden policy on a*geplay says "If you are in doubt as to whether an activity may be interpreted as *****, we request you err on the side of caution and desist." So venue owners often feel they have to be diligent about who they allow on their parcels when adult furniture is available for use. Would I care if they were in their own homes with this look doing whatever they do.. yeah I just don't think about it really. Right or wrong I just don't. I'm more concerned with by infant/toddler/tween stuff in regards to a*geplay situations, sexualization ect. I have no problem with those ages being in sl doing non sexualized child things. I do wonder though if they have to revamp some policies will this current fashion trend be taken into account. Will we get some clarification as to what is acceptable or not? I'm not trying to stir the pot but I do think venue owners should have some guidance.

I don't have a hud for it to light up on. I just don't think child like avatars should be wearing them (mama allpa huds)..there is no point in it. I don't think I've ever sent an AR for underage stuff. I guess if I saw someone obviously underage engaging in sexual activities I might put on my what are they wearing hud and include it in an AR but doubt I'd think fast enough for that. The picture and report would probably be as far as I'd take it. The most I've done is when I part-owned an adult venue I'd indicate who was welcome or not through notecard greetings and directly in IM if I noticed someone that I though shouldn't be there.. I'd ask them to leave before a kick and ban. edited for clarification

You are possibly right about not having more stringent policies... just enforcing those that are out there now would be great. It might not have been what instigated it.. but it is there for all to see. I see it as something we can do something about and want to encourage that. You made it sound that we should not discuss that at all to me and that we are being herded in the direction of discussing that instead of the big problem. Sure I think there is an internal problem. I said earlier that there will probably be someone fired.. guilty or not. Most companies when faced with something like this will offer up a sacrificial lamb if they have too.. even if they give them a good going away package for their troubles. Or there might be a sudden resignation with some statement to go along with it about going in another direction or some such. I can't think of a company that wouldn't keep certain problems and their response to it in-house for many reasons.. lawsuits, some protection of their public face ect. No company is going to be that transparent with how they deal with inner issues. Its not about being complicit in hiding anything it's just being realistic about life and how things are and focusing on where a change can actually be made. All of it can be discussed as far as I'm concerned .. within the forum rules. I'm not going to put you down for discussing your points or not liking mine.

No we are making our thoughts heard on the subject. Would you rather the topic go away? I don't have any idea what the Linden's will do with anything they get out of this. Just being heard matters though.

However there is a problem in sl with age stuff. Gotta say it that way so it doesn't get marked out. It is something we can discuss since so many of us are exposed to it just by teleporting around and shamed by it being part of things that go on in this platform that isn't policed well enough. Just because we discuss it rather than focus on other inner workings doesn't mean we are sheep being misdirected.

Possibly an unpopular statement .. but trying to herd in adult content could gut sl. Not just for users that like to pixel bang, content creators of nearly all types would be affected. As well as venue owners.

I agree I'm 5'2 in real and created my shape by bringing it down to zero in height... longer legs bumped me up. I just said that because I think some residents would consider me to be short. I have seen a real movement to more realistically sized avatars in the last years.. as well as furniture and vehicles being created to fit realistically sized avatars. I really don't see height becoming an issue other than with residents and possible venues.. which is their prerogative as the owners of land. Even starter avatars put out by sl for many years are not abnormally tall.

I go back and forth about children having a general ban on adult lands myself and you brought up good points. There are also residents who live on adult regions for various reasons including just obtaining it when verification use to be a thing. I imagine the hardship when they are doing nothing against the rules but would be forced to relocate or change would be enough to drive some away. It's a very gray area and there would be so many obstacles to overcome if that restriction where put in. On the other hand, maybe it's time to bite the bullet. Admittedly I have no horse in the game. I don't want children in sl and don't play as a child. I have no reason to frequent areas that cater to families at this point although some roleplay areas that include families have attracted my attention from time to time. So I'm less concerned than some would be over an in world lifestyle change. Maybe people in various situations that might be affected should speak up about it. I do frequent venues that ban children avatars and appreciate that personally. And no I'm not talking about short and small breasted women ect... I'm very short I think .. maybe 5'5" in sl. I'm talking about children and those that are blatantly trying to look underage or seemingly fishing through profile use.

Nope it's roleplay for adults those that want to explore getting pregnant in whatever ways adults get up too. I just don't want to see children wearing it.

I have to say I'm surprised and pleased they didn't lock this thread immediately. It, for me anyway, gives the appearance that they are watching and listening. Of course they could just be letting us blow off steam but that's not a bad thing. I do think it's a good time to make your thoughts heard on the subjects, especially in regards to possible changes that might affect your second life. I don't know how much it fits in but many years ago I was joining and investigating more adult groups and noticed that many, many were dead.. unmoderated and basically a free for all. There was one guy that I'm sure anyone who has been in adult oriented groups will recognize that would surface again and again with the same or close to the same catch phrase, something like "any girls .. (something, something).. when younger?" He would be banned from working groups and go on to make a new account and it would start up again. In one of my current groups I get someone like that and ban him if I'm on and see it. I know of at least 3 times I've banned him. To my point though, I do think a clean up of old, abandoned and unmoderated groups is in order. They can lead to more opportunities for phishing scams and allow people like this to just run free harassing others in inappropriate ways... new residents might be joining these groups unaware and less and knowledgeable than older residents about what is what in second life. I believe it's also a detriment to residents advised to find groups to belong too when searching for friends, as it's just frustrating to join dead group after dead group. Also it ties up names that could be used to describe an actual functioning group. I'm not suggesting this to be strict but seriously if an owner of a group hasn't been in world in 3 years or more those groups are just confusing when seen in search. I understand some groups are tied to payments and possibly those could be handled differently. Perhaps a way to do this is if an owner and officers in a group haven't been in in a year or two.. remove them from search. Then remove the group after 2-3 years and free up the name.

I'm not so focused on what they will do internally. They will doing something.. when situations like this comes and slaps companies they have too. There is usually at least one employee sacrificed so I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen guilty or innocent. It's how the game is played. We'll see in coming months. I'm more interested in how a revamping of policies will affect us.. the players and residents. I'd like to see a clarification of the ***** policy. I'd like to see marketplace items that sexualize children removed quickly. I'd like to see "family friendly" sims that encourage nudity, sexualized child avatar traffic and the like watched and eventually shut down. I wouldn't personally mind seeing a blanket restriction on child avatars on adult regions although I know this is unlikely. I know this could cause hardship for those that play both as a child and an adult on one account but people can make multiple accounts. Make a child account and make an adult account and keep them separate. Nothing ickier to me that to see a child avatar picture that has a bunch of sex groups in their profile or picks because they also play as an adult from time to time and can't keep a clean profile. It always makes me think that they are possibly advertising for *****. All that said I do have sympathy though for family players or child avatars that aren't engaged in anything against the rules. I'm guessing it might feel like a witch-hunt to some of them.

I don't think the market is oversaturated for this body type. If someone is looking and hasn't gone in this direction yet it might be really good option. I'm going by bigger boobs and not a huge butt concept that I keep hearing about so makes me think about a true hourglass figure. I haven't demo'd it though since I'm finally happy with what I have. I'd been looking for exactly this type of body .. with good clothing support since I gave up on Belleza Freya a couple years ago. I have made the body I love with Reborn now .. Waifu add-ons and a butt deformer. I know the clothing support is great too... my inventory is packed with stuff that fits well. For me it sounds like what I have now I just had to work hard to have it.... but it still is Legacy selling it, and it's no mod and you need that danged outside server to work, and I already broke down and bought Legacy when I was searching so there is no upgrade possibility so kinda feel ripped off .. and no assurance of support from creators that will make flattering clothing in bulk for it.. and, and, and..... so yeah for me too little, too late. Hasn't stopped me from hitting the raffle boards though .. I just think for someone still looking that doesn't want to wear add-ons, I can absolutely see them using it. More power to them.. I'll be glad to see more shapes like mine out there even if I'm not wearing the body. I just hope selfishly that it doesn't dig too far in to the support waifu gets.

When I'm feeling bad about life and sl just sucks to log into or sucks really quickly after logging in it's usually time to take a break if I can't find a motivation or outlet here. It's been awhile since that's been the case for me but it's a weighty feeling. Some suggestions for sl though is if you can find someone to share experiences with it could be helpful. I resist saying find a friend, because that's hard, but you gotta start somewhere. You can watch movies, sightsee, find fun animations. It would be good to be engaged somehow. Even if you are not necessarily feeling creative on your own you can admire stuff that others have done. Finding a friend will require you to go somewhere other than home though.. to anyplace that might have people that like to do what you do. If not do stuff in real.. do you like video games or reading? Make sure you are doing something kind of rl active now and then too if you don't.. stretching ect. I remember running across a nice Tai Chi animation in sl that was fun to do alone or in a group.. it was awhile back but created a lasting memory.. stand up and do it in real life if you can. Not sure if you are on dialysis or not... Talk to your Dr about depression and what you can do for it. It's hard to swallow but life is just like this you have to be the one to engage yourself somehow because it's rarely dropped in your lap. Enjoy what you can.

It was your post about how to deform it that made me get the reborn body! So thanks.... I'm still averting my eyes though *shudders*

Pretty Liars Flat A** level 3 takes it down quite a bit... then again you don't want to see the horror show I become without the mesh body on it's like a potato on stick legs..