Galaxy Littlepaws

Smartbots has been logging and bridging group chats for many years as part of the Group Chat section of their services. With WebTalk for example, they allow you to put the group chat anywhere, even a public website for messaging back and forth and viewing. If you think chat bridging between Second Life group chat and elsewhere is a concern, you may want to look at that as well.

Thank you so much for responding. One last question set, do we still have to fill out this application form just to have access to the SDK? Is there a way to have the application *not* require an existing in-world store? It is unclear why that is needed, and what it is about an in-world store that would be used for consideration just to access the devkit.

Now my questions are: 1 - Is all of this in order to be able to create anything at all for this new starter avatar? 2 - Or, is it to create things only for the new "avatar creation onboarding experience"? 3- Is this meant to be an avatar used for a little while and then tossed as soon as possible rather than any long-term use and investment? I feel there may be some miscommunication going on here as to the purpose of this. At face value, it really comes across as "you need to jump through hoops to make anything at all for this starter avatar, even if you're a newb who just wants to try to make yourself a cool t-shirt", which seems antithetical to the SL experience.

This is why I've only made things for non-human mesh avatars, ones that do just let you get access to the kit without filling out application forms. There are a few human avatars that don't do that, but they're either not seen as very good compared to what's out there, or there's some sort of drama with them, which is why I will not name any brands. I would like a response from Linden Lab about my concerns. I'm not trying to debate anyone because I don't want to get too off-topic (if I did I have many words on my feelings), just discuss my concerns and surprise to LL regarding how they are handling this, on here and the Discord. I will wait for them to read and do their internal discussions or the like and say something to us all. I can't think of much else to say to them about it at this point. But I am confused and would like answers from the Lab, please?

The key here thing in what I'm complaining about is "apply for the devkit". And the application wants so many things like a slurl to an in-world store. You were free to download the UVs and the like from any website that had them hosted, you didn't need to jump through hoops. A newbie should be free to create things for the avatar they are given when they rezz in for the first time. That's what I've always loved about SL, the freedom to be and do what you like, and to create things as long as you had the skill and determination. The extremely low barrier of entry for creation and customization. This will just push newbies into thinking they have to spend a lot of money to even make basic things. How are they going to have an in-world store? What will they even fill it with, much less anything LL may be looking for to judge if they're worthy of a devkit? I'm confused about why we need to apply in the first place. I'm confused about what LL is even looking for exactly. Would I be able to get a devkit if I have 0 items for any human avatars in my store? I've always avoided making things for humans because nearly all of them have these requirements. I just wanted to get started with this new avatar, and make stuff for the newbies so they wouldn't have to spend so much to look nice.

One of the big appeals of SL back in the day was that you could just make a shirt or pants or the like for the default avatar if you wanted to and had the skill, and maybe a few lindens you fished up or won. This pretty much takes that option away for those people, who may be wanting to learn how to create content for themselves at little-to-no cost, or to open up a store. They would have to hunt for some other body that's less restrictive with their dev kits and doesn't cost a lot, but at that point why would they even bother with making things for the new default avi they got for free?

Why do we have to apply for the dev kit? I assumed it would work similarly to the previous system avatar in regards to creating content. Having to apply for dev kits is annoying and hinders new creators or people who just want to play around. I like being able to just download something and get started after purchasing/obtaining an avatar.

You can use the Compare feature. This is the exact one that shows what changes were done between the 30th and 3rd: https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Linden_Lab_Official%3AScripted_Agent_Policy&type=revision&diff=1213838&oldid=1213822 It is commented with "Removed a confusing reference to bots and traffic", which was indeed confusing people.

You can check the page history on the History tab, and compare. It's transparent which I am glad for. https://wiki.secondlife.com/w/index.php?title=Linden_Lab_Official:Scripted_Agent_Policy&action=history

I was curious and checked the Jira ticket regarding being able to check the "scripted agent" flag with LSL. It was accepted in February. So once that is implemented we should be able to gather that data and use it how we see fit. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-233274

I know the CasperTech security system does this. I've been wondering how that may be affected by the new policy.

Ah okay, you were talking to Paul Hexem in that post, so I assumed you were and commented based on what I quoted specifically. I do still wish it could be bypassed or set on the parcel level if that's what a person wants, but I can't test if that's possible anywhere else, and from what I'm seeing others say it may not be.

I checked last night to see if I could add a bot to the parcel access list on Belli for curiousity's sake, it seems that's blocked out as well as all but the "block list" options on that tab there. So, due to not even being an option nobody can whitelist any avatars on the parcel level on Belli.

I use a security system for that, and I haven't found a way to check if the profile belongs to a bot or not using LSL. If I could then I could solve the issue in a more creative way. I may ask on the proper forum to be 100% certain. I use a scripted agent myself that sits on my land and I just wish to be able to choose not to have any others coming and going at all hours without filling my ban list for no good reason. As the owner of the land, I feel that it's me right to allow or deny avatars as I see fit. I'm not calling for a ban everywhere, I just think people should be able to choose.

This is an excellent option for estate owners, and I'm glad to see the clarification of the scripted agent policy. When may this appear as an option on Mainland, as someone who owns a mainland region? The enter/leave spam is rather annoying when I'm sitting and working on something and keeping an eye out for newcomers who may have questions or need help with something.