lonewolfryder

you are good we just had miscommunication and bad timing.

Was not my intent to "bully" miss. This thread went off rails when you posted about me not replying instantly to your IM on the forum, so yes you appeared to be a troll, I know now you are not. In the future perhaps give someone time to reply to a message. As you stated you were not "in world". Myself I was busy attending a DJ set so I had no time to adress the rather lengthy reply it would have taken to adress you question. You posted that I amd another the same damn dude all because I did not reply quickly to a message to my inbox. I would like to think the fault here lay equally on us both. Me for what I said , you for posting im whats his name and grilling me for not replying instantly to a message yoiu sent me. We were both " in the wrong" as far as my other thread, i wont get into that the moles locked it for a reason neither of us should be referring to it. But if you read my OP in that thread it is helpful to others which is what I try to be. Do i err at times yep , i am a hot head if you say stealing is good i was raised better so it will always set me off.

Um yah most don't nice try though, with the notable exception most artists allow remixes. They still do not allow priated downloads of their "orginal track" which is sadly what most so called "Dee Jays" in sl do , rip a cheap poor sounding youtube rip and justify their stealing like you do.

I am mid set in world so cant attend to the message I will tomorrow my friend! Tonight I got a 4 hour halloween set! and smoke and drank. Be patient.

Yep always !

SO i get it chroma ya getting ya rocks off trolling, I am gonna quit b4 i run afoul of the Tos but we all see it. ( if i havent already lol). Ya want to theif more power to you, those of us who right from wrong know what your'e trying to do here which is troll and go off topic which is how to run a club and make it good. Not that you could ever run a club.

Um yes that whats a copyright means, they OWN their intellectual property IE their music thier songs.

You fail to respond to everything I said. All i read from your uneducated replies is that your pro thief . You fail to respond to every one of these points: 1) if the artist in question intended their music to be downloaded for free their would be a download button 2) Artists create music to make a profit 3) no way using a 3rd party program to downloan content you didnt pay for is legal.

Peeps Like you not gonna win that agrument about theiving and hiding behind the word piracy lol. Stealing is stealing. The artists who produce those songs SELL them thought AUTHORIZIED venues. is using 3rd party software to make a copy of a legal video's sound " Authorized?" um not last time I checked, In fact if caught: Those found guilty of copyright infringement may face the following penalties: Up to five years in jail. Fines and charges of up to $150,000 per file. In addition to any other charges that might be brought against you, the copyright holder can file suit, which can result in legal fees and damages that must be paid. That would be ANYONE downloading music from YOUTUBE. I bet you 100,000 Lidens if you emailed YouTube ask asked them if downloading songs in mp3 format using 3rd party software is LGEAL they would light you on FIRE ! it is NOT legal. Again you just want to justify stealing , what most internet savvy people refer to as "piracy" how convientant you only step up to defend "Priacy" and not STEALING, You Hide behind legal jargon !

Lmao you just want to justify your stealing content. Your focusing on the word Piracy. Stealing is stealing. You proved my point in what you qouted " unauthorised copies" that is what your doing when you use a 3rd party service to "Rip" the sound from you a Youtube video. If the artist (( the copy right owner the legal owner of the intelectual property )) wanted people to download the said song it would have a DOWNLOAD button !!! do you see download buttons for an mp3 on youtube songs? Naw dont think so sucker. You LOVE to ignore the fact there is NO DOWNLOAD button on youtube for an MP3 for a music video ! you just want to justify stealing lmao.

Um on youtube all videos viewed get the artist paid, educate yourself ! Googles "Licensing is not an open invitation to download the music on Youtube! Doing that is illegal and a breach of their TOS , have you taken the time to read thier TOS? Dont you think if these artists who work for a living wanted thier songs DL'd for free would just include a download button? lol you make me sick.

Actually YES downloading through a 3rd party is piracy ! the artists whose songs are on youtube they get a % of the ad revenue. learn how the business works before commenting lmao. If your using a 3rd party software to rip the " sound" IE play the youtube video then run the URL through 3rd party software to steal " the sound" converting it into an MP3 (( you tube is noit mp3 it is video media )) you are STEALING ! those artists sell their songs to make MONEY ! bypassing legal means to obtain the music is well duh stealing lol. You can BUY every single track on youtube. when you run a music video URL into a 3rd party website you are fully aware you are not PAYING for the music. If the artist intended you to DOWNLOAD the song there would be a DOWNLOAD button no? Theft is Theft no matter how you justify it. Are you just IGNORANT of how many so called SL DJ's obtain their music? it has gotten so bad club owners need to ask DJs to have "clean music titles as a prior poster said: Sad when you see other DJs play a song and the title shows something like "My SL - Joe and the Lindens (HD with lyrics)." that right there is a song ripped and stolen from youtube ! did the artist get paid for that download? Um NOOOOO he or she did NOT !!!!! You just seem to want to justify priacy. Priacy when it comes to online content is defined as someone who illegally downloads the material in question without paying for it lol. Nice try Bruh to justify out right theft !~

Yep those kind are not DJs, they just youtube pirates dropping random songs into a random playlist. If you can't afford vinyl or to join a DJ pool (( you pay a monthly membership to download legal tracks with high quality sound )) and your just a youtube pirate ya not really a DJ.

Me I always put effort into my sets, I create them often times ahead of time and even key them to be harmonious. All music falls into 24 "keys" ranging from 1a to 12B, for example you can play a 3B song then your next track should be a 3A or a 4A which is closest in "keys" to the last played 3B song. All my music is keyed like the set i am making right now the track I just dropped into the set is : DJ Surda x Selena Gomez - Lose You To Love Me [J Bruus Remix] [Clean] 1B 125 so following that with: DJ Allan Vs. Cyndi Lauper x ASOX & Reverse Prime - Girls Just Want To Have Fun [Bouncer Bootleg] [Intro Clean] 2A 126 Notice the BMP is close to the last too ( 125 and 126 ) Some djs just clobber together any old song (( often pirated youtube DLs! Yuck!)) , while some of us however take pride in the craft of doing a well made set. Also for example with my sets your not gonna hear those songs for the most part on you tube as they are remixes and club cuts from dj only music pools. So not all DJs are the same, some of us like those of us who say remix live for example put extreme care into any set we do. it can be hard as a DJ live mixing to keep up with everything going on in the club, our primary focus is to deliver some eargasims, and try to keep up with the crowd during this entire process all the while taking in requests that we may not have the track for which requires us to download from a reputable site.

This is true, overly spamming for donations is a total mood and vibe killer and a turn off. Now on "tipping" your DJ when they play a song for your entertainment, is the DJ having to download a song just for you? Many DJs in SL actually pay for their music, I do ! Many do not rip from youtube as that is priacy and is illegal, not to mention the sound on youtube rips is often subpar. IE they do not have the song already? This creates work for a DJ and adds yet another song to his or her already large music libary. In this situation the proper thing to do is to show some love (( a tip doesn't have to be big )) to the one working for you. Not doing so is to a degree not a classy move. And yes club owners should be able to afford the tier for their clubs or not bother opening them, as i clearly stated in the OP most clubs bleed money (( meaning your expenses including tier out weigh that which one "pulls" in))

We had the drama down low key as I do not tolerate it all. I don't even do warnings, people just get gone if they act the fool in any place I run. Our club was for the grown and sexy who knew how to behave according to accepted cultural norms.

No idea there as I have never been involved in that community of second life. Having never been a furry / anthro nor into fantasy I would be a bad person to ask. I can only speak to the things I have done and did well.

It closed when we left SL. We used to pack in on a good night 60 people, it was a R&B and Hip Hop & Soca & Dancehall club. Me and the wifey are rethinking reopening, but clubs are a ton of work so I am debating taking that dive again. It was well worth it though. We miss the vibe we had going. We only closed it down due to real life which took us out of SL for a time.

indeed ! However I see it as a mix of both, a marridge if you will. If you foster the right enviroment, people will join your clubs group and want to belong, participate and even bring their friends.

Promoting your own club in secondlife 1) Use the forums! There is an event section here, there is even an adult event section. People do use these to find new places to go. Posting does not take very long at all, it is one more tool in your "arsenal" of promotion! 2) Use SL events for every single set you do! You yourself can only post I believe 4 per day so this is where your staff comes into play. Under the group your land is under you want your staff always in this group. Click on "allow event hosting" under group roles, Doing this allows your staff to use SL events to post their sets. SL events can be found here: https://secondlife.com/my/community/events/index.php?lang=en-US Once on this page your going to look for the link "Create event". It will ask what time said event (( set )) is and what date. It is here you want to fill in the details, put as much detail as possible ! You for sure what to list what type of music is being played! No one wants to TP into some unknown club for music they may hate! Waste of peeps time and they likely wont come check out the club if they do not know what to expect music wise. 99% of ALL FAIL BOAT clubs fail to post their sets to SL events page. You do want people to find your club don't you? 3) Use SL spam groups for parties ! Sure these have less traction than they used to back in their hayday, but you can still get new traffic going this route. You can even hire a bot that is scipted to spam the sl party and event groups in world at specified times. I think if I recall correctly these bots cost about $500 L per week, but they are well worth it! Also please avoid spamming non party / non event groups, it just makes you + your club look like bad citizens of second life. 4) SL radio stations that drop your Landmark into local chat. This requires you make or hire someone to make a recorded mp3 radio advertisement. Set it low catchy music with a voice over about why people should check out your club. When people hear the radio advert iin world the landmark to the club will drop into local chat. I personally used this to great effect when I owned my own (( very successful club )) in secondlife. This traffic method does cost you Ls but it is money well spent. 5) Flicker ! is your club photogenic? Make a flicker page for your club! You can even think outside the box here and offer a photo contest for your club , offering SL photograhpers the chance to win a $L prize for best picture inside your club. I did this and required all pics have the club name and URL (( landmark)) posted to the picture. Our clubs photos ended up in 100s of SL flicker groups! Seen by many. We got a good bump in traffic from people curious about the venue, some became regulars, was not a bad investment for $1500 L! 6) This one can be difficult, but try to get your club listed in SL destinations. Your SL family, friends and staff can help here by submitting your club to the SL destinations guide. If your club looks good, offers something special Linden Labs may very well add to the offical destinations page. This is just 5 traffic methods.

So many clubs some and go in secondlife. Why do some succeed and many many many clubs fail? Many club owners figure if they build it .....they (( patrons )) will come. That's the field of dreams mentallity right there: If you build it, they MAY come but there is sooooo much more to running a successful club in second life. First, you need good staff. DJ's that live for music, Hosts that are chatty and keep the audience entertained or at least involved. I may make another guide on how to obtain quality staff, but for real it is not that difficult to find staff who shows up for their sets and actually will care about your business. That being said many club owners open clubs dreaming of dollar signs, lindens dancing around in their heads. The fact is most clubs will bleed money, so if you are in it for L's you may wish to rethink your club dreams. Sure some adult clubs turn a profit if well run and the owner knows how to hire quality adult staff and how to PROMOTE the club. I personally know of several who do run profitable clubs. Yet the vast majority of clubs do not turn a profit. My advice is to open a club only if you have a Passion for nightclubs in second life. I will do a follow-up guide on how to promote your club in second life, that is a whole other beast of a topic to handle in one posting. You are going to want to think about your hiring process. Are you using apps? Are you also doing interviews? If you do interviews make sure the person doing the interviewing knows everything the JOB entails. I once had a hostess manager "Interview" me for a dj gig, she knew nothing about being a DJ whatsoever other than we play music. Also if you do interviews with prospective staff try not to repeat questions already answered in your physical application, this is highly annoying and will just send quality staff away as no one wants to waste their time. Do think about how you want to run your business. If you overuse managers and make yourself not approachable by your staff, your staff is likely not going to get close to you nor care overly much about your business. This is more so with NEW clubs. Many new club owners decide to hire 1000 managers for every micro detail of their club then make a rule to go to these people with any issue they have about the club. No manager is going to put the level of care into your business that you yourself will! Some issues will need to be addressed by you and you alone. You want your staff to be able to approach you. This fosters a feeling of belonging, of a unit. Sure you can hire a DJ manager who knows everything about DJing and can attend to say Dj's needs in your club, or a hostess manager who knows his or her trade inside and out, this is a good thing. A bad thing is where you have 12000 managers and state you will not be there if the staff has an issue but to go to one of the 12000 managers you for some reason decided to hire. Another thing is how you treat your staff. Treat them with respect and they should in turn treat you with the same courtesy. I have been in clubs that constantly hound staff via IMs to fill in slots they (( as the club owner )) failed to hire someone for. If you need fill in's put a notice out to your staff but do not hound them for fill in's on a daily basis. You will quickly burn the remaining staff you have if you go this route of hounding staff to fill the voids in your schedule. If you are short on staff for slots do your job and find some new hires, do not stress out, and burn out the staff you already have over your failures to find enough hires. Hiring staff who already have VIPs is for sure a nice thing, yet there is one key thing to remember here, those visitors who come in for said staff members tend to be "followers" of that staff member only and may never return to your club other than for said staff members set. You also have to advertise your own club. I notice roughly 95% of all clubs these days fail to advertise and promote their own club. I have in the past tried to help owners like these learn how to promote their clubs, sadly few ever listened thinking they can do it the field of dreams way, build it and they will come mentality. This frame of mind leads to this: You must ALWAYS promote your club! This however takes work. I have noticed most club owners have an allergic reaction to "work" to ensure that their club succeeds. If you rely only on staff to get your club bumping, your club is often going to be empty. It takes a mix of you + your staff's effort. The good news is yes your staff can actually help you promote your club. And they should as part of being your club's staff, but you too have work to do in this area. If you have a club and have any of these issues going on right now you have an issue with how you run your own club: Staff continually or often fails to even show up for their own sets Your club is often dead or has very few people at sets or events You have staff quitting very often, IE a revolving door of staff Your staff does not care about your business at all Staff quits your establishment without telling you why they choose to end their business relationship with you. Any of these issues is a problem directly in MOST cases with how YOU are running your club. You are not having a bad luck streak, you are doing it wrong. Also do note that people enjoy a club that looks good. Ask people you care about for honest opinions on how your club is laid out and looks. Create a place people want to be. A good example here would be Club Mavi, she worked hard to create an atmosphere. Many of the better clubs in SL part of their success believe it or not is simply two or three things: The club has excellent staff so patrons want to come back for the experience The club is laid out very well, it is visually appealing to patrons. The club owner + Staff both promote the club itself + every single set that is happening. This guide is not exhaustive there is much more to it than what I have laid out here, but these are your basic building blocks to a successful club. One last bit of advice , make sure you optimize your parcel for search. In the property description add the key words people may be searching for in second life. If your club plays some hard to find music for example say Slap house, Soca, Future bass as just examples you may want to put these "key words" into your parcels description. It helps your potential customers find your business! Also do run a classified in second life, it is mega cheap I think last time I did so it was like 100 L a week. In said classified put in a bit about your club and what genres of music you offer and if enough room left some details about your club.

Im for details before wasting your valuable time here.

Yeah thats legit also feel free to IM the salt daddy for details.

Can second this also feel free to Im me for the real deal before applying here.

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