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  1. Its exiting, as these look to be a future connection. HOW they would connect it to a 20m water is anyone's say, however I think a logical choice would be up the E side of the coastline there to connect to the end of the East River. That would be quite the route! Effectively connecting all of Heterocera to Jeogeot!
  2. We DO have a group. Please do your homework. Also, please read through the forum here itself before you troll. Please read the first post in this forum as well; It asks for constructive conversation.
  3. No, I see that, I read the submission. I'm not trying to come down on you, It just does indirectly affect what the cc group is trying to do, and thus does indirectly connect to the group. Its not wrong, what you did, not wrong at all, I'm just "Awwwww, whadya doin?... I wish... you.... eh... ugh.... oh well..." That's all.
  4. There was a post somewhere i read that the LL folks are sort of against the straight line approach; something about no autopilot routes, put in some excitement for the travelers. Not a disruptive zigzag for the sake or purpose, per-say, but I can understand that theory.... I could go either way, as there are valid benefits to either approach. It does make some sense to tack a-lot of 'around the continents' connections to adjacent sims, and/or extend the existing waters around the path with a sim here and there... There are alot of waterways with only a few sims to connect them logistically. YES, Ideally, larger, NON-user lands for water/flying is idea, as NOONE and I mean NONE of us care to think on how angry orbs and banlines make us when crafting. But if you look at many areas, there is alot of open water, even if its just a 1/2 sim or even a 1/4 sim width run, it just needs along, say, a 10 to 15 sim stretch, 3 or 4 sims added to make it a very passable route. I think asking LL to dedicate full separate water sims for the whole span is a little much. if ANY sim added, even if its low avi entrance/ie low server responsibility, LL is gunna easily decline that thinking. OR, maybe I am wrong and for them it IS easier to dedicate low network resource sims to a dedicated channel, who knows... we initially thought the less we ask for, raw sim # wise, the better we can convince them that its a viable request... I agree with you the zigzag three sim thing is funky, but it may not be a bad thing if there is SOME course alteration requiring turns in the routes. That of-course is up to WHAT LL is willing to do, if anything, to these routes/connections.
  5. That she does, absolutely right. But, why then come into the forum here at all, and tell everyone who has been discussing and collectively strategizing several routes, that you just, on your own, submitted your route to LL. Again, I like the initiative, but IMO, and I may be wrong, as for what we are as a group trying to achieve, is a bit premature and reckless. That's all I'm trying to say, (see below)... I equate it to this... a group of fishermen gather together and join efforts to fish. They circle the boats to corral the fish. Then, before the group decides on how to best lower the net and get the most fish, someone comes along, jumps in the middle of the circle and scares all the fish away, then gets out and looks to the grouped fisherman and says, "Hi everyone, I'm here to fish too". No-one is going to begrudge that single person to fish, the group doesn't particularly own that fishing hole, but the group IS gunna look at the lone fisherman and say, 'What were you thinking, that's kind of counter productive to what were trying to do here. Come join your ideas and lets fish more effectively." We were trying for a single route to open the initial idea, maybe 120 sims or so... She submitted a plan that uses hundreds of sims, lets not even discuss the logistics of it, and its frankly making us look unorganized and stupid. I'm sorry, initiative is one thing, but the collective movement of this idea needs a little less 'from the hip' to its approach. The scope of our cc request is already so vastly out of LL's obligation to its users, so, I'm just suggesting a little more polished proposals to LL. Her idea is just as valid as anyone else's ideas, just talk em over in the group first, lets get a consensus. So, when someone DOES jump in and scatter the fish, don't look crossly at the fisherman spokesperson for asking "Hey, what are ya thinking?"
  6. Although initiative is always a good thing, this is one of SEVERAL proposals we have been going over in the group, and I am sure I am not alone in feeling that one lone proposal not agreed upon by the group as a whole is a little premature that it was sent in to LL. I was hoping that we would send in an official proposal that was agreed upon by the group as a majority, and one that included SEVERAL options. I think we appreciate you trying to keep then ball moving forward, but, before anyone makes a proposal to LL regarding this group, can you at least FIRST consult the group, and as a group agree that this is the next course of action in the groups best interest? I had a plan to construct a full proposal and consult the group before submitting in the name of the group. Sarah, sweetie, this route is a little impractical in many respects, and may get a negative response form LL as to our goal here. I wish you consulted the group first. We have been talking about baby steps to get the idea rolling in LL's mind. Please, no-one jump on Sarah for this, it inst the end of the world, she only meant well, I'm sure. And it may get a positive response, who knows. It just makes our cause look chaotic. Julia
  7. interesting... may not even be sail-able or even comfortably flyable, and with banlines, even worse.... this is a start though, in the right direction... if its successful, it may help grease the lines for a connected mindset :)
  8. Is anyone else having a window opened up by slplugin.exe stating java alert / that flash needs to be updated? Firestorm 5.1.7 new install, all old files deleted Flash updated and auto update set still comes up stating flash needs updating EVERY time I log into SL using Firestorm. searching this issue NOTHING seems to come up. Am I the ONLY person with this window warning? Started about 2 weeks ago. Thank You in advance Julia
  9. Thank you for pointing this out for us Oh, so we actually DON'T need you to point this out for us..... I'm always extremely reluctant to respond to post with this and previous flavors, because in the world of online forums, and message boards, etc, this only fuels your fire. Nothing I say will do anything except invite your pointed retort. In it's internet form, this has been going on since the late 80's/early 90's. You are not pioneers. I will say this. To those that feel it necessary to come and adamantly educate us 'couple dozen' dreamers on what LL will or will not do. (and btw, we don't have a ton, but did get nearly 250 members in the in-world group in the first 24 hours. Now, does this mean we have many more than that... nah, not really, but the interest was such that a lot of folks posted interest and support immediately when hearing about it from group notices throughout. I still get IMs from airport owners, land and sim owners, sail and flying group personnel and moderators that have expressed support and thanks for this endeavor. I never majored in math, but that's more than a couple dozen). Back to my point.... Every one of us dreamers from DAY ONE is and was WELL aware that this is not going anywhere - LL has NO intention of applying this proposal - this is a monumental undertaking to even get a large set of sims opened, and appropriated with little to no income for LL supporting its construct. LL has NO reason or incentive to do anything other than MAYBE mention its viability, good or bad, and we probably wont even get that much! So, your (and you know who you are) negative, vindictive, unfriendly posts scolding us to our ignorance, is nothing more than simply annoying to a thread that was started to speak of a wonderful idea. You are NOT educating us. You are NOT telling us anything we don't already know. You are NOT enlightening us to any facts or even responses we did not already anticipate. The only thing happening is such a negative response from such a positive idea. I welcomed the 'No's when we opened this dialog, what I AM disappointed with are the adamant condescending tones that are coming with such arrogant conviction. We get it, you got a pretty good beat on things. I so dislike responding and giving attention to this behavior, but I have to say something. Not that I am any more important than any other member of the CC group. I am not. I am also not the first to come up with this idea. And that's all it is an idea. We all know of its futility, hence the need for a constructive discussion. I don't think one can hit a ball without swinging the bat. I am guilty of dreaming, I am sorry our dreaming offends your forum awareness. Like I said, I don't mind the No's, i welcome them. But why some have to be so callous or malevolent in tone, that helps no one. If you feel we are so misguided, then perhaps your precious time is worth other endeavors. Let us not distract you. Julia - I will reply no more to these BS posts. (now, of-course, as most forums revert to this, as many who come for ideas, see that ideas are of the past, and its just a flame throwing contest, they leave and time waits until the moderators finally close the thread. I had hoped we could get more of an ongoing dialog for this, but I see condescension seems to silent the constructive input, and we are left for the passers by to take their pot-shots. I hope this is not the case)
  10. Unfortunately, I think the majority of new signons are alts... Maybe that's why you don't really see that many new residents.... I'm sure its alt least a large number of them.
  11. So much for constructive comments in this thread. Please, name-calling is unnecessary. I'm also biting my tongue and keeping my thoughts and comments on the whole banline/orb argument for another thread... This thread is about the connection for the continents, if you have no use for it, don't use it... Its that simple.... Julia
  12. MeesterP gets it! Its about the journey! Lets do something wonderful! yes, that or isolated islands, rez zones, points of interest, things to see, for sure.... For the folks that say that the sims need to be payed for, sure, rent-able parcels.... There is a TON of sims in between continents that connect them, all around the large group of continents, PLENTY of sims that are LL and NOT rent-able sims, THEY are there.. for sailing, flying, diving, etc. Not EVERY new sim needs to be a profit load for LL. Towns all over make parks and recreation areas for recreation. I'm not saying that every sim needs to be a freebie, but, this is a community proposal for everyone NOT just US.... Im sorry, I am not for a portal. YES, folks, its a neat idea in itself, but we can already TP anywhere, so how is this anything other than TPin IN our sailbaot.... bleh.... no thanks... This proposal was for a sailable, flyable connection to not only connect the continents, but to create a whole new thing in SL that can be used for a number of crafting uses. The Atoll can be a themed wonder in itself - the channels can be islands with parcels or parks, or other wonders to explore. I never said this would be easy.... I just said it would be awesome? Julia
  13. I would support inhabited sims as well as completely open sims, BUT... I think for funding, and for interest, and for enjoyment, scattered rent-able islands throughout would be great not only for people that live there, but of-course, navigation, and some funding... BUT one thing we definitely don't want is sims that are so over crowded they do not allow for bi directional traffic, space for larger craft, or even space for easy navigation. FOUR islands per sims should be PLENTY to generate revenue, provide a nice landscape, and also allow for plenty of space for bi-directional navigation. Scatter them up, maybe 3 in one sim, 4 in another, 2 in another, 1, etc.... I am always thinking ideally, of-course.... Themes could be established through different legs of the channels... Tropics for some, something like a northern theme, Aleutian Islands Alaska, perhaps, simulating a colder string of islands. Why not.. Again, I could go either way with the completely open, or some islands, but it MUST remain very open and easily navigable or else this project is in vein.
  14. Outside of the East river itself, perhaps the only logical place to grab it would be to put a sim in the 'L' created by Bleaberry Tarn and Harter Fell. This would be on the end of the East river.... BUT, its VERY south if departing Atanua. BUT maybe an ATOL has two exits, one going south and one continuing west and hitting Heterocera. But I'm ahead of myself, but if you are going to dream, dream BIG! Now, if the route was opened a little more, then a Satori departure from Stromburg is doable, but is still pretty far north (as far as Sansara is concerned) Including ANY of the sims that exist in the NE side off the coast of Langdale sim, etc. Those sims are NOT constructed to accommodate any water traffic, so including them is not an option in my opinion. They are allocated to whomever commissioned them, so they cannot be considered at this stage. we only gain a few sims of 'what is needed as a whole', but really may pose more of a logistical inclusion than we think. Speculation, of-course, but I do NOT want to assume. There would be some squiggle, but tacking into Moses or Bevel would be usable... being on the NE end of the continent. Ideal would be something that wiggled to ANWR, as mentioned before. Dump it RIGHT into the open water with routes to 3 paths IMMEDIATELY. MY thoughts, for what they are worth, is we would get the best usability from Atanua to ANWR. IF I was asked what would be ideal. Julia
  15. Hehehe, yea, right? I guess the owners would have to enact similar sailing sims covenants banning banlines and orbs. Rules to keep the channel what it was designed for... open travel.
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