you know your not dumb, so stop saying that, as it could show your lack of confidence, well done by the way on the pages i have seen and your work has been noted........... You are doing a grand job, with a very difficult and complex medium.. Well done and thank you on the behalf of all the users whom have not thanked you.... I am dyslexic and calclexic so find this stuff rearly hard, but I allso have a masters in sociology... we can get round our problems eventualy with all the aids around to help us now.... But I do wish that scripters would place instructions and what the elinets are for ""in green"" like ""this turns the car left"" or ""this banks the plane"".. scripters should remember that not all people are on there level, and that one must cator for the lowest denominator, not the highest, So the clear message here is, dunb down scriptin so any one can see its idiot proof.... Thanks again PS and Oh... please rememebr that all age groups are in second life some are 62 and older.. Im 62 and trying to keep up with you guys....