Markham Weatherwax

I just recently joined the SL Friendship Network. You might look into that. It looks to be an active group and they do things, have events, and so on. I must admit, I haven't done anything with them yet. I am busy working on an SL newsletter project. I do look forward to getting more involved with the group soon.

Just as Amethyst Jetaime said, you can do it. But FYI, when you do, everyone not in your group list and your neighbors will get ban lines. Try this: Set it to group, then have your alt set the place to their home location, then change the setting back to non-group public access. Your alt should still have home position set there. That way you can have non-group visitors and your neighbors won't see ban lines.

Yes, you can, but it's not going to simply fall into your lap. You've got to develop, test, build, perfect and then advertise and promote. It's just like any other business. If you are looking to make your sole living off of creating in SL, that's a long ways off and might not even be possible. You can develop here and also on other platforms. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. You can put out good quality products here (and there) and then give yourself legitimate credits on your resume. That can help you in other ways. Worst case, you can get practice in here. Some people will tell you not to, that it's not worth it, that you need to wait for this or that, but don't listen to them. Do your own research and decide your best course of action. Not everyone is helpful, not everyone will be looking out for your best interest, and will try to dissuade you from anything and everything. Don't pay attention to them.

Ah! That's a good idea. I'm going to set that up too. I'd much rather stand than sit. Thanks!

Eh! Abuse report him. He obviously knows he can't use the name. Governance8Linden? Sheesh! *laughs*

Yes, perhaps you should FYI them. I run into it all the time where someone has marked the land Public Access but also checked Group Access. Some folks don't understand that if you do group access it overrides public access. I guess some people just forget, but others just won't read instructions. Just recently I FYIed two large land owners who are selling their properties that no one could actually get on the property because they had the group access checked along with public. These folks are long time SLers so I assume they forgot what these two functions do because they went so many years with just group access. It happens. It happens more to newer people, though.

Yeah, it's useless. I think most people won'tl care or even benefit from it. Most of their perks are pretty lame and long time users just shrug when they hear about them. A premium account can pay for itself plus in land tier and the $L stipend for individuals. Anyone registered after 2006 gets $L15,600 (value around $60) and $60 a year value in tier which is $120. A premium account is $72 a year, so if you own land you get $48 more value a year. Paying quarterly costs $90 a year, so still ahead. Paying monthly, you don't make out at all. If you don't need the $L stipend you sell it off and use that to offset or pay for the cost of additional land you own, or go towards your next premium membership fee. I know lots of people who own 1024 parcels who do just that. I also know people who make lots of money in-world who covert some of it to USD and pay for a premium account because they come out ahead, economics-wise. SL really can be an ecomonics game. You have to do the figures, add them up, and play it just right.

A couple of others have mentioned that and I think it's a great option. I am going to try out the Firestorm viewer myself, but does the standard SL viewer have this function? If it's there I can't find it. When someone asks me how to deal with this kind of activity I don't want to simply tell them to swap viewer software I don't mind new people bumping into me as they get used to their "legs" or really if anyone accidentally bumps into me. It happens. It happens when you TP into a area all the time. It's just part of it. I do wear a nice little HUD that tells me who is near me and if anyone bumps into me. Now I wear an anti-bump thingee on my spine just in case. I'll do a ground sit if someone begins slamming into me or attacking, as per the recommendation of several people here. If it was a malicious attack, then I'll report and block the user. Next, I'll ban the user from all of my properties, group and personal. Chances are they'll never come to any of my properties but better safe than sorry. I will try Firestorm and from what I've read it's looks to be a great viewer with lots of needed functions and abilities. I'll certainly use the movelock function when needed. Like I've said before, I've been on SL a long time and rarely have run into this kind of thing personally, but have heard lots of stories from others about being attacked out of the blue or greifed to the point they stop going to certain places. There should be solutions for everyone, even those who use the default viewer.

TundraFire Nightfire wrote: There is a very aggressive griefer who hangs out in Wengen and has for years. I love to watch the northern lights from Chalet Linden and have had numerous problems with him/her. I'm guessing it's the same person because of the description of their griefing actions. If it is the same person, they always used a variation of the same name and it made it easier to block/mute as soon as I TPd in. After a while I found that they completely left me alone and I haven't had to block anyone for a long time there. Your best bet is to ground sit when under attack then report/block/mute. I go for a ground sit whenever I enter a known griefing area or I notice an avatar coming in my direction too fast on the map whenever entering a new sim. I wish SL would go back to the old name format with first and last names and drop the display names. It might well be the same fellow. Bullet something or another. *cough* Good advice. I'll follow it. Too bad LL doesn't deal with these kinds of people more effectively. If you've reported the person and I have (and probably others too) he should have been gone a long time ago. Ah well. Life.

Kenbro Utu wrote: If they were bumping into you, pushing you or hitting you with something, all you have to do is look up the name in Bumps, Pushes and Hits and it will be recorded there. I think its menu position varies by viewer. In the Second Life 3.8.0 viewer that function is hidden in the develop menu which one has to enable. I do have it enabled, but I think most folks don't and won't. They could really mess things up in that menu if they played around in there. It's not a good place to put it.

Christhiana wrote: I don't get why people would get upset when someone has the same display name as long you're not trying to impersonate that other person. In RL there are a lot more people sharing your name People partner up in SL and want to take the name of their partner, family, clan or whatever so there are bound to be a lot of people with the same or similiar display names. Ofcourse with exception of extremely decorated names that are copied to the letter. Exactly! Millions of folks and you will have some "same" names. Hellor Highwater: I've seen in some people's profiles in-world that they've changed their display name from this to that on this or that date, sometimes multiple changes over the years. I never thought much about it but it could show that in your profile too. Not that I think anyone should be making a big deal about this. No one owns their username or display name in SL, LL does. It used to be you could not have a name that someone else had because it was a username. The ability to change display names is rather annoying to me and causes other people (like you) needless trouble.

You have friends. You have close friends. You have work friends, social friends, casual friends, and others you are not friends with but are on friendly terms with. They are not all equal. SL friendships are another version of these kinds of friendships. Some people take it too seriously, some not seriously enough. RL and SL isn't that much different in regards to this. You meet people, you connect, you have a good time with each other or whatever, and then the marriage is over pretty quickly. They get bored or you get bored and it's on to the next adventure and the next friendship. I think that most friendships in SL are casual friendship where you run into each other at the same places and chat for a bit. They don't need to be on your friend's list and your don't need to be on theirs. You run into each other at the same places, after all. In most cases you can join a group, be it a social group or whatever, and then you can see when other members of the group are online or not. You don't need to friend them all. SL friendships are easier than RL ones on most levels, but much more complicated. You can a great friend here who suddenly becomes distant because of something that happened in RL that you know nothing about and never will. Just remember that finding close friends in RL is hard and it is no different in SL. You will have lots of people you will be friendly with but who are not really and truly friends. People are people, even when that person is controlling an avatar. No difference.

Good advice. I think you've got the right idea there. The AFK thing, good reasoning. I like that idea.

Dresden Ceriano wrote: You don't need a hud to protect yourself against this sort of attack. It's quicker and more efficient to simply hit Alt+Shift+S, which is the shortcut to ground sit. When sitting down, no one is able to knock you around or shoot you into the sky... and you don't have to take the time to find your hud (or wear one all the time) to render their actions ineffective. Then, of course, AR them and block them. At no time ever should you actively engage with them... as that's their entire raison d'etre. ...Dres (If you find it difficult to remember that shortcut, consider what the first letter of each key spells and how it corresponds to what that person is being.) I had completely forgotten about the Alt-Shift-S. Thanks for reminding me of it.

Qie Niangao wrote: ... and it's important that you don't take any measures other than these strictly passive responses, besides filing that abuse report. Otherwise the question arises whether you were engaging in "play" with the bully, which is sure to send your abuse report straight to /dev/null. Also, any other response is exactly the "play" the bully was trying to get from you. So it's either file an AR and get on with your SL, or don't file an AR and play with the bully -- where you start as victim, a role that some folks enjoy. I agree. That's why I was concerned about the defensive huds. It could be seen as play or a mutual fight.

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: You can do one of two things. Sit down. No one can push you around if you are sitting. You can also use move lock which prevents your avatar from moving at all. Move lock is included in many defensive HUD's and even multi purpose HUDS like MystiTool. Some viewers also have a movelock you can activate. In Firestorm it is in preferences under Move and View>Movement. Good advice. Thank you very much. I will try out the Firestorm viewer. I've to, but have always planned on trying it out. Keep putting it off. *chuckle*

I've been lucky in Second Life in that I've rarely had issues with bullies, pushers, and greifers. A few days ago I filed my first abuse report in 5 years. I was standing at Chalet Linden, having just TPed in, when some guy comes walking up and said "Don't be walkin' into this house" (in stylized fonts), then went away. A minute later he TPed back in and began shoving me around. Before I could do anything he attacked me with bullets or something, knocking me up into the air and back a good ways, then did it again. It was all so sudden there was no time to right click on his avatar. I did immediately go up to Help/File Abuse but I was way back so the abuse picture didn't show the event or him doing anything. He TPed out immediately so I had to search for his name for the abuse report. I did a search but only found similar usernames and even one that looked like it was the same, but was not his. His username had horseshoe fonts in front and back of his name. I had to cut and paste that username from my logs. I could see where a person, after being upset by an unprovoked attack, might report the wrong person because the names were the same except for the horseshoes. Anyway, after I filed the abuse report a person at Chalet Linden who saw all of this came up to me and asked me how to deal with situations like this, what anti-push scripts do, do defense huds work, and similar questions. I realized that I don't have a clue about this kind of thing. So here are my questions. How do you handle situations like this? I looked into anti-push items and scripts but they all seem to be many years old and none of them are documented. Do these things still even work? How do they work? Out of all of the newer defense HUDs that I've found all but one are mostly attack huds. The one I saw for defense only, for people who don't want to attack anyone, doesn't inflict damage but looks like it would have you engaging the abuser (like throwing them up into orbit) so potentially they could report you for abuse or at least confuse the matter in any abuse report. Then, how do you, or would you, deal with a situation where you went to the same place all the time and were attacked each time you went there, not just the one-off attack like what happen to me. We all know that abuse reports can take a long time to be adjudicated, sometimes taking multiple reports, so what do you do in the meantime? How do you protect yourself, defend yourself, or do you just stay away until something is done, if anything is ever done? Like I said, I've been lucky in that I've rarely had to deal with this kind of thing. Still, with the way SL is these days, I think I might want to be prepared for when it does happen. :/ Thanks in advance, Markham Weatherwax

Excellent post! Well said.

Actually I wasn't referring to the fandom related parts, I was talking about her last paragraph; It leads into the second paragraph of my post. I really don't have much interest in conventions, fandom, or like-kind. I did read the linked article you provided and I thought it was a good read and informative.

Anytime you want.

Bobbie Faulds wrote: I have one security orb. It's set up to boot people from my workspace where I do my clothing. It's at 2000 meters up and a customer has no need to be up there...I have it set for 20 meters and 20 sec boot. I only got it after I had an intruder that even after ejecting him, he came back so I booted and banned him. Then I got the orb mainly because when I'm concentrating on making huds or I'm in PS outside SL, I might not see them. This one tried staying hidden behind my texture organizers and photo studio. Man! That person was really off! Sheesh! I understand using an orb in that context completely. I'd do the same. It makes sense. Whew. There are some odd folks in the world and in this one too.

Yes, like the destination guide, but more personal and observed. I am trying to create common ground, to connect to people, engage people, and to possibly make friends. That's why I posted in the "Make Friends" forum.

Deltango Vale stated a very important thing which is Linden Labs not performing the valuable service, and that is telling. It unfortunately has been that way and looks to continue on that way. Madelaine McMasters had some other good observations in her reply. The problem with Linden Lab is that it doesn't see the obvious. So many people lost money in SL, creators and innovators left for other platforms after being either scared away or ticked off, so that any new project LL does no one is going to trust them. Very few will invest time or money or effort in that new project. If LL won't take care of the primary (Second Life) then it is assured that they won't take care of anything else they do. In the beginning they always go all out, then sort of abandon whatever it is they create to it's own devices. Second Life is not going anywhere for the forseeable future, but unfortunately... it's not going anywhere at all.

One of the ways I am trying to connect to other people in SL is by writing a free and open inworld newsletter about places to see and to go in Second Life. Places I found that are great looking, fun, nice road trips, routes, etc.. I just completed writing the first edition and made it available. I also remapped the Sansara continent with new places of interest and put the map up at my place. I am working on more maps too. I'd like to meet new people, I'd like feedback on the map, and on the newsletter, and I'd also like other people to potentially get involved in the newsletter too. From that we could form friendships. I hope so! It's worth a shot. So, come visit my place and let's take it from there. :) Easy Goings Place in Ess (M)

Well, selling Linden Dollars is not the same as sending money to your Paypal account. Selling Lindens will credit your USD balance. After you sell and have a USD balance, then you process credit on your US Dollar Balance to send the money to your Paypal account or other. So, to sell, you go to the sell page, look to the right side of the screen to see your balances (L$ for Lindens, US$ for US Dollars). The amount of L$ is what you can sell. You enter the sell quantity of Linden Dollars, then click on the sell button (don't just hit enter). From there you can sell your Lindens. Then go to Process Credit and make sure your Payout Method is set to your Paypal account. You can process your US$ amount there and send it to your Paypal or other account.