Rathgrith027

My deepest condolences for your loss. Thanks for letting us know about this.

Especially when said people more likely than not are concerned more than anything. Calling genuinely concerned parties 'idiots' or 'fools' and those wishing to get to the bottom of matters 'haters' isn't exactly the kind of mindset I feel is adherent to the Tao of Linden.

If this were the case, we would be facing grid-wide outages the day of. The Crowdstrike incident has more or less been technically resolved. Legally and economically.. that's another story. Pretty sure Disney wouldn't touch Linden Lab with a 8 mile barge pole. Take care of yourself first, dude. can't have a Second Life without a first.

SLAMS PRIM DESK THANK YOU

Uh, no. And honestly, I rejoice in knowing your sentiment would die quickly in a Governance meeting, if the Lab's words on the matter lately are anything to go by.

Look, I'm going to be clear as I can here. I have NO issue with banning child avatars from accessing adult content. None. Zero. Nada. It's bad PR, it's a legal minefield, even with protections for the lab like the aforementioned CDA-1996 Sec. 230, and is overwhelmingly condemned. My problem, is that adult avatars that present as petite, that are styled in anime fashion, that are effeminate males or otherwise gender nonconforming, over the years, have gotten the short end of the stick over the years. Were some of those bans justified? Probably - I've seen a few and in some of them, yes, Linden Lab was right. But at the end of the day the problem in that regard alone, and this is the crux of it, is that there is no clearly defined guidelines. Yes, height is not a sole determining factor. Awesome - I'll let time decide whether Linden Lab follows thru on their word. But we need images, examples, that show what proportions and the sort are okay, what kind of behavior is okay, and what aren't, for both governance as a litmus test, and for the community as a boundary. If some people still get banned, then it's on them for not adhering to the guidelines set, but right now the guidelines have a larger circular error probable than a shotgun fired at 10,000 feet. That's all I want. Nothing more. Nothing less. If the lab were to do that, and stick to it, I would shut up about Governance probably forever.

I haven't spoken much about the modest patches, but I honestly don't have a problem with it. Child avatars shouldn't be engaging in any sort of sexual activity on SL, full stop.

Oh, so we're resorting to slander when I dare ask people use accusations that heavy and damning with the respect they deserve, that's cute. Blocked.

Seconded. It would just exacerbate the underlying issue of this, where Linden Lab provides no guidelines worth a damn for the child avatar policy, and would put petite adults, GNC and other avatar groups (even those like Anime or hell, at this point, tinies) at grave risk of governance action. At that point, we should just pack up this grand experiment that Philip Rosedale started years ago, because that would probably at least, piss off a third of our userbase. We only recently got our asses out of a population decline. This scandal isn't helping matters. Let's not dig a deeper grave.

This whole *****show reminds me of that bit from Spongebob with the Realtor. "He's a pedo, She's a pedo, they're a pedo - I'm a pedo! Are there any other pedos I aught to be aware of!?" The allegation that someone is a kiddie diddler being slung around like mud is a insult to people like me and countless others, who are survivors of childhood sexual abuse. Treat the allegation with the weight it *****ing deserves.

The world average is around 5'3". Source: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321132

It's almost as if.. people don't mature the same way, or at the same time. Someone call Bixyl Shuftan, the people need to hear this one.

If wearing underwear is a crime, then I will be going to SL21B in a bra and panties.

I see the coincidence too, make no mistake, but all I have to say on that is that a broken clock is right twice a day.

Yes, but here's the problem - you are applying real life methods to SL - An avatar's metaphysical age cannot be defined because it can shift and change at will. We don't have legal documents to go off of. We have to go off of looks and behavior alone. I hate RL abuse as well. I don't think anyone here doesn't. But at the same time, getting rid of it in SL, or in other simulated or fictional environments does not make the problem go away.

I never said you didn't - but again, what you assume from what you perceive is inherently subjective.

A word of warning, that Kavya is not exactly a trustworthy source. Court documents from LL legal counsel rebuked a lot of what Kavya accused LL of doing, and Kavya was accused of.. a lot of things that put her competency into question. And for those who say that they could just be lying..perjury is a thing.

***** not withstanding (as ***** again, is banned because of its' taboo nature *and* legally questionable status), if it is between consenting RL adults, my opinion is simple - Linden Lab should keep their hands off of it. Places like Soraya's and the sort are taboo for good reason. Linden Lab *tolerates* them. The community.. somewhat less so.

Unfortunately, opinions are like agents - everyone has one, and they're all different. What's 13 to one, is 15 to another. What's 19 to one, is probably 17 to another. I understand *why* we have an ***** ban. It doesn't make it any less of a nonsensical *****show to enforce, though.

Ah yes, next we should ban depictions of all (adult) sexual abuse, god forbid consenting adults roleplay something that people find disgusting. And after that we can ban handholding, since that's just as degenerate. Please don't give Linden Lab any ideas. Next thing you know they'll ban breathing. As much as I know people find that stuff disgusting, if we banned everything we find disgusting when it isn't actually harming anyone other than the sensibilities of people who can simply close out the tab, teleport away, or log out but choose not to do so, we would live in a much, much smaller world, and be much worse off for it. Edit: No, I am not condoning any real life actions that you are thinking of, get your head out of the gutter.

As someone (#NAL) who knows a bit about online service laws, this is usually the case, at least in the US - Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996 states that companies are afforded limited liability for the actions of users on their platform. EU regulations have similar provisions, but the law's identifier evades me at the moment - what I recall is, that since Second Life is seen as a 'conduit' for user interaction, at long as the criminal acts fall within the purview of that conduit, they should be exempt from criminal liability within EU member states.

Yeah uh.. I find this to just be entirely absurd as well. Who just yeets themselves somewhere blindly and goes AFK?

.. It's at times like these I'm thankful all of us Nu Vaughns are adults.

A fallacious argument, when we're talking about a company, with all due respect to the Lab, has not historically been known for being fair and balanced.