VoteboxRepairMan

Good. The less AR options the better. Waste of LL's time. Verbal abuse should never have been down there to begin with - if crybabies can't be bothered to click Mute, they deserve it. Also, who doesn't share IMs? You all do, don't pretend otherwise. Shame about gambling, but hey ho, that's the State's encroachment into our daily lives summed up perfectly. I'd go further and make the only 2 AR'able offences Fraud and Child Diddling. Free up LL to actually do something useful instead of wading through neurotic, pointless complaints.

So the point of the votebox is a valid one...of course, being too lazy to sit for 10 minutes on a sim to earn some money is down right despicable. Why??? Are you some sort of masochist? Do you hate free time? Sitting on a sim for 10 minutes is down right retarded. Take the money and run. Edited to remove a not so nice remark **bleep** :smileyvery-happy:

Midnight Mania is OK for bagging free clothes. Funnily enough, I bet there's someone on this forum that considers THAT an act of 'freeloading'. Lucky chairs are rubbish, complete waste of time, unless you like standing around for 30 minutes for a Linden or some crappy novelty item.

Drake1 Nightfire wrote: Isn't this thread all about the lack of those paying voteboxes? How are you still making 2K an hour? Yes, exactly. I'm lamenting the old days, when picking up Ls was a doddle. If I started SL now as a noob, I'd probably have packed it in after a couple of weeks. I've had 40,000L in my balance at times and yet never worked a single shift on SL. There is still multiple alt voting on contests, though that tends to involve having to sit through some awful music unless you time it well. Hence, sim owners decide to be selfish - noobs get bored and quit SL - sim owners whine about land costs and lack of traffic. No wonder LL want to do something new.

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: The time and effort you put in to getting money for nothing could spent working one shift a week as host in a club or some other job and you'd get a LOT more money. Er, no. Unless you're exceptionally bad at maths, picking up 1500-2000L in little over an hour works out to be much better than hosting a club, where you'd more likely get a fifth of that in double the time. Plus working in a club is boring. You have to follow rules set by some 'manager' who's actually an obese 60-year old man sitting at his PC in a dressing gown. No fun there :matte-motes-not-even: I can't help noticing, you're a very highly strung woman :matte-motes-wink: You should watch your blood pressure.

Well, I must say that I sure was very thankful, in my relatively early days in SL, for all those xploder owners. I got good amounts of pocket money to buy stuff, and the xploder owners got the traffic what they were after. It was a kind of an unsigned business deal. Both parties were satisfied - both got what they wanted. A win/win situation it was. Ah, my apologies. I thought you might have been one of those 'Those who don't work on SL should wear prim cubes for shoes!!' types. And as you rightly said, it was a total win/win situation.

Coby Foden wrote: The best sources for easy lazy income were the xploders in their heyday. Some club owners put crazy amounts of money in those things (like some 20000 L$ per round, many times during a day). If one was lucky one could get hundreds of L$s in relatively short time. The xploders drew people like rotten flesh draws a swarm of flies. :smileytongue: Yes, another easy source of shopping money, much missed. There was a HUD that helped you to find them too. Have to say, your disdain seems just...odd. Given the choice between raking it in from a sploder with no risk, or getting a SL job and earning far less over a longer period of time, I'd say this is basic IQ test territory.

Syo Emerald wrote: You cost them money but you don't bring anything valueable. The trafficnumber you contribute to was a worthless lie. So you're basically saying they were idiots for putting out these voteboxes...? I wouldn't necessarily be disputing you if you were, but just for the record?

As I recall, the route used to go something like: Mandy's Mansion - some giant cruise ship/mall - Jinx's Dreams - Mole's Love Retreat - Baby Doll Girls Saloon - Temple of Isis - Pole Fashions - Demonic Club - The Horseshoe Saloon - can't remember all of them, but you'd have at least 20-25 locations, from beaches to skin stores, paying out at least 1L. Took about two minutes to do a complete circuit, every 24 hours. Now, bearing in mind some people actually do have 50+ alts, you can see how this was basically a way of getting a high-demand SL DJ's / musician's average set takings through doing as little work as possible.

Qie Niangao wrote: Really? Are you sure you're remembering this correctly? Or, if you do, were the votebox owners all duped by whoever ran this votebox scam? Going all the way back to Dwell, traffic was (supposed to be?) based on total time on sim, so if five second stays ever improved traffic by an amount worth counting, it must have been a bug in Traffic calculation. (That certainly could have been the case but I don't remember it, and there sure were a lot of systems based on total time in sim; remember "traffic cones" for example?) Yes, you're right - but you'd be amazed how many owners thought that setting up a machine and rising to the top of the weekly/monthy rankings on SL Popular Places was enough. They were basically rising up a chart on an external website. I remember well one clothes store which suddenly changed, overnight, from a 1L payout box to a traffic cone type system once the owner realised that being queen of SL Popular Places had no effect whatsoever on SL search rankings. Had a brief chat with her and by her own admission, she'd wasted nearly 10,000L on nothing. I have no clue who actually used SL Popular Places to find entertaining destinations, always assumed it was just a money map for grifters. A bit like paying to be in the Viz Top 10, rather than getting into the NME Indie Charts on sales figures, if that (UK-biased) analogy makes any sense.

Anyway, you've all ignored my wider point, which is that the traffic isn't there anymore. You could cull more than half the sims available right now and hardly anybody would notice. Proof, if any, that SL has a foot in the grave.

You are the greedy one here and must know you are off base with this post or you would have not used an alt to post. With respect, that's utter pish. Loads of ppl use alts on here, to prevent being stalked inworld by the hardcore forum nutters. Anyway, alts are fun. Plus this alt's name is quite fitting :matte-motes-smitten: In fact, i prefer going to these sims to avoid greedy parasites with your attitude that just stand around to collect the money and add nothing to the atmosphere. The atmosphere in places with voteboxes sucked. It's precisely why they needed voteboxes to lure in traffic. When they withdrew them, the sims poofed within weeks. No loss. Where do you think the money you get paid comes from? It comes from the sim owner's pocket. Couldn't care less. Slap a votebox, money comes out, that's all I care about. I'm bemoaning the lack of voteboxes, not remotely bothered about who pays for my Marketplace shopping. No sim owner has to pay you for coming to their sim and if they do , you have to follow whatever rules they care to make. Oh yeah, I remember the ones who tried to catch us out with Redzone...didn't last long though :matte-motes-wink-tongue: You should thank sim owners for providing venues to entertain you without charging YOU. LMFAO. You MUST be on drugs. You think that 99% of sims actually provide entertainment worth paying for??? Thank them for loads of boring clubs that look the same and are populated by dyslexics? Why should they pay tiers to entertain you at all? Honey, once you get off your perch of outrage and zip your beak for 5 seconds, try and realise people set up sims because they want to, for their own egos - it's nothing to do with making your or my online experience cheerier. It is NOT a mutual transaction. Totally is. They want traffic. We provide it and get paid for bothering to spend 5 seconds in their sims. You're just miffed because you spend RL money on SL and we found an alternative that didn't involve camping like idiots. Here's a novel thought. Instead of expecting a hand out, why not get a job and earn your money. Then you won't have to put up with what you are complaining about. No thanks, I'd rather get my Ls for nothing :matte-motes-wink:

Hello, I am an obvious alt. 3 or 4 years ago you could go on the site 'SL Popular Places' and find every sim with a paying votebox. Some gave 1L, some 2L, rarer but still, some even 5-10L, per vote. You could log in 7 or 8 alts and just pop through the sims collecting money for your main. Great days, no need to get a boring SL job! But the rot seems to have set in. Some greedy sim owners have set the voteboxes so that you have to stay there for 10 mins for a 1L payout, which is just obscene. I note that many of the SL Popular Places options hardly pay out anymore, or if they do, it's a total waste of time - just one and the votebox is hidden somewhere meaning you have to spend time looking for it (these greedy vulture snobs don't realise it's a mutual transaction - we're there to inflate their traffic figures). Anyway, this seems to me an apt reminder that SL is truly dying.