Wooja

LaskyaClaren wrote: Wooja wrote: LL needs a strategic leader, not someone who is good company at the water cooler. LL does indeed need that. And one of the best ways, sometimes, of devising strategy is to listen to those best positioned to be able to tell you somethng about the product, and something about its stengths, its problems, and its potential. I have some hope, or maybe even something that is beginning to approach belief, that Ebbe can listen. To those who have something worth saying, of course. :-) The Romans didn't waste any time asking the people they conquered what sort of plumbing they would like once they were subjugated. Wooja...preferacomparisonwiththevandalsandgoths

JPG0809 wrote: Yes, but why be negative? Balance. Truth. Insight. I'd say a "reality check" but I'd laugh as I typed it. Wooja...takeoffthoserosetintedspectacles

Pussycat Catnap wrote: Wooja wrote: Ebbe Linden wrote: Not sure what you're trying to accomplish... The feeling is mutual then. Wooja, you've got a lot of as yet undeserved rage at the new guy there. Not sure where you're coming from as you appear to be as new to the forums as the new CEO - but if this were any other thread and this an argument between you and another resident, you'd be getting moderated right about now. I suspect they're holding that back for appearances sake but as a fellow resident I'm going to say it: I think you're out of line here. You're taking it way too personal when he tries to be gracious and engage with us. There might come a time for us to all collectively rage at him - but that's at least several months from now after we've seen how things shape out. Right now, its too early to be making any accusations. Right now is the time to try and engage. To try and break past the hurdles of past eras - and see if an open line of things can be established EVEN WHEN we and they don't agree. In fact I'd say its especially important to see if we can learn to keep it civil when we disagree. I know that as customers its not our job to be "the adults in the room" - I've made that point myself many times here. They have to engage with the customers they get not the ones they want. BUT THAT SAID, we should strive to be better than this. We don't need to be trying to bait the new CEO into a flame war and trying to drive him away from talking to us at this hour of things. I get that maybe his responses don't sound as wonderful as you would like them to. There's a new bloke in charge up there and he doesn't yet get our 'culture' of things... Like it or not, we are stuck with a new CEO, and he is not you nor I, but him. So that is even more reason to back off the offense meter and give space for trying to interpret what someone says in the best light possible rather than the internet norm of the worst light possible. What makes you think it's Ebbe himself who is making these posts? If I was a new CEO at ANY organisation the first thing I'd do would be to find a competent PR person to keep the unwashed multitudes happy with platitudes, expressions of concern and delaying tactics - but making no real commitments - which is what is happening in the various communications channels. Hell, it's standard practice in show business even. And I would consider my time much better spent talking to my staff, reading the financials, reviewing project reports and a whole pile of other things like working out who should be staying and who should be going - which he has started with in terms of some of the product portfolio - than listening to people whinging about names, how slow systems are and complaining about the legal conditions under which they are permitted the privilege (not the right) to play. Perhaps his shill is deliberately mis-spelling words to enhance his chosen personality of amiable ESLer, or maybe he's just another lazy PR donkey who thinks he knows how to spell and doesn't need to use a spell-checker or doesn't believes that his audience warrants a little care to be taken in expressing coherent messages. Despite all that, nah, it probably is Ebbe, but I would encourage him to avoid this misuse of his time and reputation and get on with managing the product and rationalising the efforts of his workforce. LL needs a strategic leader, not someone who is good company at the water cooler. Oh, and if you think this is "rage" you should see me when I'm angry, like Painless in M*A*S*H* Wooja...expectanythingless

Which story would you like to hear? Maybe the one about the children who were left unfed because their parents were addicted to SL? Or one of the marriage breakups - the one I particularly like is the one where the husband flies to the USA from England to meet his SL partner, gets rebuffed, and returns to find that his wife has sold their house and moved, as well as instigated divorce proceedings. Or there's the girl that walked out on her husband and kids because her "master" in sl commanded her to. Or then there's the girl that tried to commit suicide because she discovered that her lesbian lover was actually a man. Should I go on? Not all SL stories have happy endings, and that is something that you can't escape. LL may not be legally responsible, but the immorality it facilitates is sufficiently depraved that the shadow of bad publicity will always hang over the product. Wooja...compareslwithtigerwoods

Ebbe Linden wrote: Not sure what you're trying to accomplish... The feeling is mutual then. Wooja...stopcopyingmyellipsisstyle

Ebbe Linden wrote: Wow, seriously? Must be great to be perfect... Some of us try to be. You are admitting that you don't try very hard. What is your ambition at LL? To be barely adequate? Wooja...betryingtodumbyourselfdowntoingratiateyourselfwiththelessadvantaged

LaskyaClaren wrote: After, all, there are GREAT games available on Club Penguin . . . ;-) That explains it! I was sure I knew you from somewhere . . . Wooja...readthispaper

LaskyaClaren wrote: And this guy is for hire, I think. Do you think they pitched that movie to the Hollywood moguls as "Pinocchio meets Green Card"? Wooja....believegerardiscompletelyoffhistrolleynow

LaskyaClaren wrote: Pamela Galli wrote: How about making a thread for debating this topic? LOL Because it is important enough to merit its own thread? Or because it is boring you? :-D I've said what I wanted to say here. If Henri or someone else wants to start a thread on adult content in SL, they can certainly do so. And who knows, I might even look in. :-) Actually, the principal rationale for starting another thread elsewhere on this specific subject is that THIS GD subsection is not for discussing "Adult" (in the SL sense) themes, which should be confined to a dedicated GD subsection in the Adult Content subforum, which - last time I checked - is suitably ghettoised by not being available to casual bystanders, journalists, and investors who have not signed in. Wooja...believethatwasvialesidea

LaskyaClaren wrote: I think we need younger people here, This made me think of this song, the lyrics of which initially reflect your sentiment: Of course, the song then devolves into narcissistic schtick about the greatest love being that which you have for yourself. Wooja...believethatsthebitilike

Theresa Tennyson wrote: Wooja wrote: Ebbe Linden wrote: Not sure it's Dunning-Kruger Effect as I have no illusion of being a good speller... So it's just laziness and disdain for your audience then. Wooja...expectanythingless And as you've noticed by now, we also have a troll. Ours doesn't make Saabs though - in fact he doesn't make much of anything. Except sense. Wooja...expectanythingelsefromsomeonewhorpsanabusedteenager

I think there's a guy called something like William Shakespeare you could consult. Wooja...comparemetoasummersday

Ebbe Linden wrote: Sure seems like we have some D-K customers who think they know product management though Boy did you got that one right. And I like the way you have initiated the rationalisation process. Now you need to kill multiple platforms, raise equipment specifications to eliminate resource-poor users, institute undocumented critical APIs into the viewer, and desupport antique operating systems. Just like Microsoft. Wooja...wanttoalienateseveralvocalminorities ETA Have you persuaded Rick and your Board yet, to license the Talk.co technology to support intra-community communication in LL?

Ebbe Linden wrote: Not sure it's Dunning-Kruger Effect as I have no illusion of being a good speller... So it's just laziness and disdain for your audience then. Wooja...expectanythingless

Perrie Juran wrote: howeverbecauseIuseStylishwhitetextdoesnotescapemyeyes Can't fool you, eh! Wooja...thinkanyoneelsenoticed

Perrie Juran wrote: Next time I will pay closer attention. Everybody should. For example, occasionally I write in white text on a white background and you need to highlight the whole post to read the whole message. As in my post above your post that I am replying to here. Wooja...lookverycarefully

I think the last few Marketing Veeps have instigated an increasingly restrictive regime on Lindens - including but not restricted to the last few permanent and temporary CEOs - working on the basis that "if you don't say anything, you can't say anything wrong", perhaps because the recruitment process seems to have disinterred a few wannabe "professional" communicators whose main achievements have involved the real life equivalent of rezzing with their foot up their **bleep***. LL is in the communications, not information technology business; the latter is a facilitator, not the raison d'etre. And the main problem - which the marketing/community management don't seem to have grasped - is that there is no single community, but a plethora of globally dispersed multi-cultural, multi-lingual, multi-interest minorities, all of whom will feel oppressed if a non-existent majority is addressed. Marketing people, in my experience, seem to feel uncomfortable if they can't identify a single satisfactory message. That's the crux of the continuing problem. I don't think Ebbe turning up in the Forums to be blasted with demands is going to be the answer, but I am not sure what is. That's HIS problem to solve. However, I am suggesting that perhaps instead of asking him for instant solutions we should be asking him "What would you like from us?" Wooja...letusknowebbe

But isn't ALL "gender violence" "sexual violence" - according to OBR, that is, because it is perpetrated against women and girls? by men Wooja...clarifythatplease

Perrie Juran wrote: I searched for the image Wooja posted with tinyeye and google and got no results. I did however find this. I am wondering now if the image Wooja posted came from this seperate event. Perhaps he can provide us with a link to his source. You can find the original here: https://twitter.com/OBRSA/status/434783246661193728 I found it on Laskya's Twitter account: https://twitter.com/LaskyaClaren as I pointed out on my original post of the image. Wooja...expectdillontogetitrightnotreally

Kelli May wrote: it's important to say what exactly is being sold. In RL, if you see an advert in a clothes store showing a woman in an outfit, you can be pretty sure it's the outfit that's for sale. In SL, it could be the skin, hair, shape or make-up. Or even the woman herself . . . Wooja...holditagainstmeifisaidyouhadabeautifulbody

ObviousAltIsObvious wrote: that is an archaic spelling but not really incorrect. Beaulocques! Which is also an archaic spelling, and completely incorrect. Wooja...prefertheeandthinetoyouandyoursofcoursenot

Dillon Levenque wrote: I'm not sure what it has to do with OBR Thereby demonstrating that you are as confused about OBR's point as anyone, putting your previous criticisms into context. Wooja...believeitsasouthafricachapterofobr

Ebbe Linden wrote: thank you...and I'll be here trying to soak it up like a spunge! Oh no! Another **bleep** ESLer suffering from the Dunning-Kruger Effect, not respecting his audience enough to use the inbuilt spell-checker ("I don't have the time"...) May I suggest you install After The Deadline? And use it. And perhaps make it mandatory for your PR and Marketing people, since it not only has spell and grammar checkers, it offers stylistic advice which knocks Microsoft's offerings into a cocked hat. It does Swedish too. And it's free. Wooja...believeidisownedmysonbecausehesagoonerratherthanhedisownedme

SidQuibley wrote: nochanceofgettingyourhandsontheFAcupthisyearehspud? We never win it unless the year ends in a 1. And not often then! But it's only five years since we won some silverware, compared to your eight. Wooja...believeozilshaditfortheseason

LaskyaClaren wrote: Thank you for this, Dillon. :-) Pep and I have had just this very discussion on my blog. It will surprise you to hear that I don't think he was persuaded. Perhaps he was as confused by the incoherent message of what OBR was about as these guys: Wooja...believeifoundthisonlaskyastwitteraccount