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  1. A big thank you to everybody who has responded to this topic, I sincerely appreciated you taking the time and enjoyed reading your thoughts, moreso those who went into more detail. 1st Life is getting pretty hectic now and I am not getting much time either inworld or on the forums, so any responses after this message, I may not see for some time.
  2. Laughs. I have visions of some kind of "Howard The Duck" character going through my head, showing my age where that movie is concerned. Of course in urban roleplay there are only usually human characters involved, however the sentiment remains the same in that those characters are in essense no more real than a dragon etc, they are just as much a fabrication of a person's imagination.
  3. Hi NewLuden, I find your thoughts on this subject very interesting, moreso in that you are very new to the SL RP community, you are seeing things with fresh eyes. I am sorry that you had a bad experience in that sim where two men tried to "claim" you, but never let anybody drive you away from a sim. You probably know this by now, but it is possible to derender and block an individual in SL, so you never have to see them nor their communications ever again. Most SL roleplayers are very grounded and respect that it is all just fun involving characters, regardless of the format of RP involved and as such, have no expectations of the person sitting at the keyboard whatsoever. So I hope you have gone on to find better experiences since that bad one.
  4. What you are looking for isn't weird at all, if family RP in SL were like that, I would give it a go, well perhaps less the kids. A friend of mine who is friends with a male family roleplayer out of character, finds herself getting all kinds of headaches in IM, where he has become so lost in the drama of the RP, problems with his wife, problems with his ex wife, kids, grandkids, he really seems to have lost himself to this roleplay. He is always contacting her feeling depressed. He's a nice guy, I have met him in world too, but to me, if any RP is taking you to the point of it having impact on your mental well being, that is the time to quit.
  5. I can't speak about other genres of roleplay, I am referring to urban roleplay in specific, no matter what the sub genre of that urban is. I am finding more and more, that people are not differentiating between a character and a roleplayer. It could be that it is just my experience, so I welcome hearing from other roleplayers on the subject. I would like to start by giving an example of a communication I had with someone as a result of an advert they placed in a roleplay group, this is the abridged version and no names are mentioned, other than first names. The advert was pretty basic and I do not remember the exact details, but as I result, I felt another group would be of specific interest to her, so I sent an IM and contacted her. The conversation that followed, was quite disturbing. She was seeking a one on one partner who would be romantically attached to her character, though this aspect was not mentioned in her original advert. She explained that she had previously had a role partner on discord who had all but abandoned her. We got into a conversation about her needs and she felt I would be suitable, I explained that none of my characters were looking to settle down and that I tend to have more than one role-play partner and also enjoy playing in groups. She responded with "yeah i know and i dont want to suffer through my avatar being cheated on when i've been through so much in my own life." I explained again that my characters would not be suitable and she responded with "i want to roleplay but i'm selfish. cherry will want frank to herself and then it'll get dramatic and sh***y. i mean yeah life isn't always perfect and trust me, i've had experiences with people who roleplay with others as in other rp partners and i dont really mind about it and i've tended to compromise in which my character is theirs' 'favorite'. spends the most time with her, dotes on her the most, etc etc. soo.." The conversation got very awkward in the end, with her saying "so there's absolutely no chance of you making an alt or anything?", I explained I had two alts already and that neither of the characters on them were suitable for her needs either and that I liked playing the bad lads of life. She responded with "you can't....just have one....not be a cheater...?" The conversation went on and on with her eventually trying to adjust her wants to suit mine, which of course I was having none of as something felt off to me. Does it seem odd to anybody else that a person feels they can suffer through a roleplay character if the other character cheats on them? Maybe I am too cold about it all and just see the stories and characters, I don't know, which is why I would like some third party perspective. To me, even if character's are romantically involved, there should be no expectation that cheating should not occur. Pushing that aside, asking someone to make an alt to suit your wants, seems a big ask. I guess it was her obsession with cheating that disturbed me the most though. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to hurt anybody in Second Life as a result of my roleplay, I try to be as clear as possible as to how I see things, but how is one to know that others are not taking it more seriously as in, perhaps they are not playing a character at all? This is of course not the only situation that makes me ask this question. I have also noticed a lot of profiles these days containing prerequisites regarding who other roleplayers should be in real life, I'm not talking things like location, I mean traits. To me, in roleplay, the characters are the important personalities and not the people behind them. The stories are not real, the romances are not real etc etc. Anyway, I welcome the thoughts of others, but to be clear, by Urban, I do not include family roleplay, where I know people take things a little more seriously and do tend to bring their real life self into the equation.
  6. I love the idea of western roleplay, it's been something I have been thinking about for some time. Unfortunately I know little about the era or the genre, it's been a long time since I've seen a western on tv even. Sadly I don't have the time to research things, else I would come along and roleplay. I do hope you managed to find a roleplay partner though.
  7. I did debate whether to waste any more time on you, but do feel the need to point out, for other readers who may not notice, that you omitted the part where you go on to say " In other words, if you are a cheapskate like me, go premium " That's when you were suggesting I would save money and you made it about me and that is what I disagreed with for the stated reasons. Regardless of whether or not reading is my strong point, copying and pasting your own quotes is not yours, though I very much suspect it was a deliberate omission to make yourself look wronged. I wish you well Fritigern, however if you can't handle people disagreeing with you to the point you turn it into personal drama, I would suggest forums which offer differing opinions on various subjects is perhaps not the best place for you. I have nothing further to say on the matter, so any response to this post will be ignored.
  8. Well I won't say I did not then, as you have formed your opinion regardless of whether it is accurate, but exactly what worst would there be in your comment anyway? So far as I read, you thought I would still save money and I disagreed. You are being over sensitive and reading too much into those volumes, you replied to my message and I responded in kind, this is the problem with written communication, there is no body language to go by and people end up getting upset over nothing.
  9. Sorry Fauve, I had to get a few hours sleep. Well we shall see what happens. One thing I have to say about LLs is though, they do a bad job with the viewer, which is why, most of us, though not all, I am sure, use a third party viewer, so I can't see them creating a phone app that would be that great. I will follow things with interest though and I may be proved wrong.
  10. Fair point, I am guessing they thought there would be though and they didn't accept that it differed too much to our usual Second Life experience and most of us are not happy to just wander around exploring experiences which offer little in terms of interaction. The graphics are superior though, that was about the only thing I was impressed with.
  11. True, this is prevalant at the [Moderator Edit: Region Name Removed] sim too, it is actually against LL TOS to falsify traffic in this manner and they claim to have measures in place to prevent it, but [Moderator Edit: Region Name Removed], most definitely does this, I remember one time I went there, there were about 40 avatars just floating at 4000m all with the same creation date. Using alts to make venues look busy is counter productive though, it might get people in initially, but they will leave as soon as they recognize the avatars are unmanned. I guess noobs might fall for it though.
  12. 2 for me, actually 3, though the other was just a scripted agent for group invites, when I had my sim and no longer gets used, though my friends know them, as I do theirs. I thought after x amount there was a charge anyway? Over 100? I really cannot imagine how you keep up with 100 or why you would need one for "each important person" after all, unless you are signed into more than one at once, the other people are therefore deemed less important at one point or another, which you could argue, makes them not important at all.
  13. Hmmm, I wonder which project you might mean? No but seriously you are right with that, it does seem like they are just throwing money down the toilet with that project, which could be put to better use, I think there was about 30 people there last time I had a look, but keep in mind, even with that project, the end goal would be to make some kind of profit, so the same would need to apply to a phone app and there would need to be signifant demand for it, before they would even give it consideration.
  14. With the anonymity the internet offers, you could argue it is less naive to see people on the internet as not real in terms of who they may profess to be. I guess it depends how much as a person, you take things at face value. I have been on the internet since well before it was popular and have learned in all those years that one must be cautious in what personal information you share and with whom you share it, friendship is a process that takes time to grow, everything on the internet, is so instant. I don't consider anyone a friend unless I truly know them and when you take into account things like facebook, where people crave to have as many followers as possible, to be that, all popular person, can the people on that person's account really all be real friends? Not saying that is the case with your facebook btw, I have no idea how you use your facebook account. Second Life is much the same, I have lost count of the number of people who want to friend me after one sentence or for that matter without even a conversation, there seems to be a mentality where the internet is concerned by which people collect friends like others collect stamps. Friendship doesn't have to move out of the internet bubble to be real, that is for sure, but like I say, real friendship takes time and I have only a handful of internet only friends who I consider real, if not for that we were on opposite sides of the globe, we would actually meet in the real world. All others I consider acquaintances and nothing more.
  15. Be careful what you wish for, a phone app would cost money to develop, not to mention the additional support costs, if they did develop one, they would have to recoup those costs somehow. In all honesty no phone is going to give a great SL experience, I've tried Lumyia and it was consigned to the digital bin, it's hard to navigate, takes forever for scenes to load etc. You really are missing nothing. Yes you could just use it to communicate, but in all honesty anyone from SL I choose to communicate with to that extent has other options, such as my skype or whatsapp.
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