jkessels

A sploder configured for no-loose will pay back your stake as a minimum, Perrie. Not 1 linden. So there is no chance of loosing. So there is no wagering. So there is no problem.

The easy rule is, L$-in, L$-out is not allowed. Sorry Lewis, but I can think of numerous examples where your simplified rule will give wrong results. As I have argued in previous posts the TOS only applies to wagering, which can be defined as "To risk or stake (an amount or a possession) on an uncertain outcome." I suggest that a more correct simplified rule about the TOS is this: "no wager no problem" So, a no-loose sploder is ok, even though there is "L$-in, L$-out". My answer to Cyllya's list: Ok are Contestboards, No-loose sploders, Free-to-enter raffles, Word scramblers, and Trivia balls. Not ok are Loose sploders and Pay-for-ticket raffles.

Sorry, but I totally disagree. Linden labs have focused the TOS on the act of wagering, not on the devices. All wagering is to be licensed, wether it is done with a device or not. They give some examples of devices, but also mention device-less betting. The devices will not be illegal (i.e. sploders), but what you do with them. A sploder set for no-loose will be legal, because there is no wagering and is therefore not subject to the policy. I guess we will have to wait for Linden Labs to get a final answer. In the mean time I would advise not to panic, and to configure your sploder for no-loose. I think most of them come like that out of the box, by the way.

I am not a Linden employee and have not heard it from an official source. So no, i am not "sure" about it. It is legal to own a car. It is not legal to kill somebody with a car. There is a difference between a thing, and what is done with that thing. So, it is legal to own a sploder, and if it's configured for no-wagering (no-loose) then it is legal to operate and play that sploder. That is my interpretation of the TOS. With all respect, but your remark "we know that the fact something can be configured to accept money is sufficient for the policy on skill games to catch it" is totally ridiculous. If that were so then all vendor boards would be illegal.

The TOS applies to "wager" only (betting, gambling). A sploder that is configured as "no-loose" (you always get your stake back) is not wagering, and therefore the sploder is ok. However, if the exact same sploder is configured so you can loose, then it's illegal. In other words, it's not the sploders that will be illegal, but the way they are configured.