stenick1

Drake1 Nightfire wrote: stenick1 wrote: One would think a person as knowledgeable as yourself would be able to spell properly and use proper grammar and punctuation. Seriously, "right" a paper?!? I have trouble with spelling and grammar. I said I wanted to become more knowledgeable. How did you get that I was claiming to be excessively knowledgeable from that?! Correcting grammar in place of Rebuttal, Congratulations, you've added nothing to the discussion. Fine, i will add to your knowledge then... Yes, I can think of several situations in SL where i have had to trust someone.. No, I don't care to share private information with a complete stranger. Nosey, aren't you. You could easily have asked "Trust. Can you think of a situation where you had to Trust someone in RL?" As they have quite a bit in common. Common sense would dictate that there will be situations in every part of life where you will have to trust someone, be it in RL , SL or a MMO (i will add you to my team, trusting that you actually know how to play and wont kill me for kicks.) It's a stupid question. "Fine, I will add to your knowledge....No, I don't care to share" lol. Common sense assumptions are often wrong which is why I think it's interesting to talk about this stuff. It's your right to disagree.

One would think a person as knowledgeable as yourself would be able to spell properly and use proper grammar and punctuation. Seriously, "right" a paper?!? I have trouble with spelling and grammar. I said I wanted to become more knowledgeable. How did you get that I was claiming to be excessively knowledgeable from that?! Correcting grammar in place of Rebuttal, Congratulations, you've added nothing to the discussion.

That's an interesting way of looking at Trust. Most people see trust from the view of the trustor (person placing trust) so trust is ME being Vulnerable to how YOU might act. But you seem to see it from the point of view of the trustee (person being trusted) who has either rightly or wrongly been laiden with trust.

This is one of my all time favorite videos. Trust is a topic that interests me also. I think it interests everyone. Who do we trust. Can we trust someone. How do you earn someone's trust. I think one axiom is that Trust and Honesty are inseperable bed fellows. I think we would all like to trust. But it doesn't always come easy. Recently I've been on a train of thought that makes me think trust is the reciprication of ideas and principles.. If you're just like me, I trust me! ... so I can trust you. Can we ever completely trust someone? It's kind of a catch 22, if you're 100% sure someone will do somthing for you, or keep your secret, is it really trust?? Don't we need to an element of doubt for us to make a trust call. And how do you earn someones trust? Tough one. Obviously it must be some way that you present yourself, the actions you take, the way you dress, the way you speak... Which is what makes trust so interesting in SL, when our presentation has undergone an extra step from our presentation in RL. (just like the words are one removed from what those two people actually feel in that great video) Ahhhh, I love a ramble

Czari Zenovka wrote: *Reinstates your 2 points and adds 2 more* Seriously though, it takes courage and a big person to come back and respond in this manner. Well done and good luck with the info you are seeking. Thanks for the kind words. People have already posted some interesting stuff... Hopefully this thread can keep going a little longer now that mine, and hopefully others, interest is piqued.

Thanks, this is the kind of trust I'm interested in. Relying on people to fulfill there end of the bargain. It's cool to think the same trust problems in RL are present in SL... in my geeky opinion anyway, this is cool to me

I really feel I've been a bit misunderstood here. Firstly, an apology for what people have rightly called me on so far... I should have browsed the forums to realise my request would look like every other 'survay' post with people trying to 'get others to do their work for them'. Secondly let me explain my actual thought process prior to the post. I've been researching and writing about trust in instant message chat and experimentally constructed problems all day. As almost an outlet from researching the same thing tirelessly I decided to throw somthing on here to see if anyone had any Examples of trust situations in SL. I guess I just wanted to read about somthing interesting about trust that I hadn't already read a million times. And YES, I know I should have just searched for papers on it first, and YES I should have checked the forum for similiar post, and probably should have worded my post better. But I was generally just venting and hoping for a new, interesting discusssion to emerge. Sidenote: Believe me, My research interests are so restricted and dominated by my supervisor at the moment that NOTHING from the forum could go into any paper I am currently writing. Responses are purely for my own personal interest in the subject. Thanks

Read up on the Ginko story, really interesting. Thanks

Thanks for the response, It does sound fun. I play a lot of online games but haven't tried a virtual realiity on the same scale as SL before, maybe I'll give it a go.

Thanks for the advice, I will indeed look up some papers on the subject. However I'm not, as another member suggested, planning on using any responses to this for a paper of my own... so low grades aren't an issue in this case!

To others, apologies for calling SL a game, that's a term I should have really checked appropriate before posting. To Amethyst, Thank you for that incredibly cynical reply. I’m actually interested in trust in general, it’s an interesting research area for me and something I look at regularly in non-virtual settings. I felt like considering some things in a virtual setting and thought a forum (an informal channel to share ideas) would be a good place to start. I think it’s you that has a weak understanding of research if you really think anyone would be stupid enough to right a paper based on the responses in a forum. You seem to have misunderstood a space for sharing ideas with firstly a space to entertain the idea of statistically valid results and then a space to attack people. As a regular contributor to forums for activities I am more knowledgeable on I personally enjoy responding to these sort of discussions proposed by a lay person. I'm sure other people will eventually reply to this post happy to help me become more knowledgable, It's just a shame unhelpful sorts such as yourself insist on wasting everyones time first.

I'm generally interested in trust in Virtual Reality, anyone's experiences welcome :)