Ted McGregor

We should all back down ... at least I will.

.. but .. I have to insist.. a UUID only .. without personal data .. can be shared and publicised without legal consequence. It would make no legal sense to convict a 3rd party on basis of that SL internal UUID only. As long as Progeny sticks to this, they are not legally viable.

Then, without knowing the case, I reckon RedZone's relevant data, might have included UUID, but this case would not be built solely on gathering or displaying a UUID only.

OK. Can you tell me about any precedent in any jurisdiction which has actively convicted a 3rd party within SL for displaying a SL UUID only ?

Hey, who are you calling blunt here, you perpetual ray of sunshine ? ...

I would have no clue. Although I believe if the jurisdiction where Progeny keeps their database is outside of the U.S., legal claims to total privacy of your UUID in SL seem all the more unlikely to be acknowledged.

Let's agree to disagree then. We keep contrary opinions on the matter. No harm, no foul , no hurt. Thank you for debating.

IF personal data is publically availiable without consent. This does NOT include a simple thing as a UUID.

It's not toxic or meant to be as such. You take a very bold claim saying in here : " My UUID is mine and woe those who dare use it for any means I don't agree with."

At which point LL's legal team will always pull out the ToS which states that you AGREE to using THEIR service based on U.S. law on THEIR terms, which in turn does not give you personal governance or legal posession over your UUID. Provided LL will go to court abroad at all. The UUID is attributed to your personal information. Again. No more invididual rights can be derived from that. Third parties in SL are free to use that UUID for the services they offer. Provided they do not reveal personal real life information.

OK. Get yourself a lawyer. Sue Progeny. Good luck.

Man.. don't pretend to be a legal person insisting on data YOU DO NOT OWN FROM THE BEGIN WITH. Personal Identifiable Data, like a UUID, can be attributed to you. That's it.

Is personal IDENTIFIABLE data. Personal is not the keyword here. This data identifies you as a person. This data is never owned by you. Again. That' s in the ToS.

Doesn't say your UUID belongs to you and is personal and should never be shared. It identifies you. You cannot claim it your own. If it would, it would make all Progeny activity illegal in SL and LL should actively ban it and restrict access of their HUDs. Why don't they ? (rhetorical)

I'll elaborate further : your UUID is not private. It belongs to LL as a point of identification within their system and databases. You cannot prevent others users to see this UUID or 'abuse' it for personal use. You agreed to the ToS therefore forfeiting this data to be yours.

Don't forget his sig. He call's that 'Raw Emotion' apparantly. Guess she is still blushing in the picture ...

It was a DDos attack, out of spite against someone, hidden in the frontpage of the viewer. Wotsisname tried to wave it off, but the attack was evidently coming from Emerald and he tried to wave it off unsuccesfully. His position could no longer be held and he left. Jessica Lyons became head of the project since guarding the trustworthyness of the viewer. I have used Emerald and it was a great viewer except for this incident. Since Jessica Lyons took over, the project has only flourished for the better and Phoenix / Firestorm have mostly been my preferred viewer of choice. Still don't regret it to this day as a daily driver, in spite of having several clients installed on my system aside Firestorm.

Afaik there are progeny scanners out there which do exactly that, which renders the indignation about harassment moot. Guess that's not intended to be mentioned by the OP.

Pet peeve : People not registering what is right in front of them ... all ... the ... friggin' goddamn ... time. 🤬

In all honesty ... if I were the least bit like yo... oh, squirrel !1! .. 😮 ETA : ... you do 'it' , you leave your stains, you get dressed, you focus her in the picture, post the picture in GD which is non-Adult and you still forget about that ? Where is your mind going ? It seems all over the place instead there where it needs focus while you focus in on it ...

Yeah ... ... both OP and you will require thicker skin to survive here .. especially since both of yours seem very brittle and fragile.

Nothing, except your paranoia, will prevent you in doing so. Who told you this is LL support ? That is a seperate branch of LL and you should contact them not through here. If you need support about 'fighting off' Progeny-vampires, I can tell you on forehand it's futile : it's part of roleplaying culture in SL. If you don't want to be part of it, just don't respond to it. Much ado about nothing really. Progeny vampires arrive at the new SL Welcome-hub all the time and it's agreed upon usually they are not allowed to linger at landingzones or 'bite' newcomers. That's about all the 'protection' you will get.

/me smiles broadly glaring into the distance and purrs.

*sigh* ...

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