ok here the full details i rented the sim and next day i get an im saying hi thx for renting i gave you Estate Manager rights for the sim and later today, LL will set you as Estate Owner for the sim if i open about land tab i see Estate/Full Region - Buy Down i found a thread that asked what that was and a few seem to think its related to the grandfather sim thing it may be but how im the owner yet i still pay him? and my apologies to Ethan i should have posted more info