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  1. I could see the confusion if you were told about a rule and ejected after several visits. It is good to know the rules too, but sometimes they arent always looked into too closely unless its a themed or RP sim (I usually look specifically for ears/tail rules first), as a lot of club rules are usually along the lines of "don't be an ass" and info for who to contact if something goes down. Staff should always be easily identifyable and polite. I was once asked to leave a popular club because they didnt allow child avs. I TPed out while talking in IM to staff person to tell them I was just short (I had an adult shape), staff said it was club rules they had to follow though. She was polite and even told me to IM her manager to explain so that I could come back if he agreed that I wasnt in violation of the rules. I think that is how things should be done. People being polite while informing of rules and how you can comply so you can come back to have a good time. (I wasnt inviolation of the rules, just new hostess corellated short with teen/child avi and erred on the side of caution. So cant really blame her). Also, no tail allowed usually means I dont go there.
  2. I think people are missing the point about the OP, and that is good customer service. I know I wouldnt be all sunshine and kitties if some random person IMed me and demanded something from me. If the employee had simply stated that they worked for the club and asked if the tail could be removed as it was against the rules, I think this thread wouldnt exist. Sometimes people have things going on and cant simply do something within moments. Maybe OP was trying to figure out who was was making demands or figuring out if they were in fact breaking the rules. I know in sims I frequent, there are people that feel they need to IM stating that a rule was broken, and are often wrong. For me, that usually ends up with me trying to figure out who they are, and checking rules to see if I am wrong. All that takes time. Though if I know they are a admin there, it does cause me to rectify the situation easier. Then again, they are professional and see it as part of their job to not only enforce rules, but to also educate people about rules as well. Ejection would be used only if person diliberately continued to break the rules. OP mentions going back after rereading the rules and fixing the issue. That tells me that they shouldnt have been ejected and that the issue was the employee and how they handled it. Sure, maybe the OP could actually see the employee and maybe they did have the proper group tag on, but sometimes group tags arent all that clear. I think the whole point of the OP is that club employees should be less hostile. People are more willing to respond to a polite request than a heavy handed approach. The good employees at good sims I have gone to usually see themselves as rule educators first and enforcement second. People usually comply with rules if they are nicely informed that they are breaking one, by someone known to be in a position of authority. Most people I have seen ejected have been people that already know they are breaking rules and either dont care or want to greif.
  3. Seems to me the OP was willing to comply, and did later. If the club staff member had been reasonable, letting the OP know who they were and had given enough time for OP to comply, I dont think this thread would have been made. I have seen places that have had rules that were enforced, some remained popular and some went away fairly quickly. Of the places I have seen that went away quickly, a lot of it has come down to poor management (either not doing anything or being to quick to eject). I wouldnt imagine that the place mentioned in the OP will last long if OP's experience is how the club is normally managed.
  4. 16 wrote: Coby Foden wrote: o.m.g. !!!! is another one of them midgets. they all over the place these days. whatever are we ever going to do. the sqwiddy little rodents are taking over. and breeding. like mice !!! o.m.g. !!!! we is so doomed (: + i quite like the skirt btw. is mesh yes? looks like it I take offence to being likened to a rodent (as tasty as they are). Yes, we short people are taking over (but keep it quiet for now). /me struts off, tail high in the air.
  5. This could all be part of your research. What happens in a society that is constantly visited by people that want to research them? How does that society act when they see many people there to research them not interested in immersing themselves even slightly into the culture? (not implying you personally, just the posts we see all the time in general) I think that it would be beneficial, even if it's hard, to play around in SL at least a little bit. It would show people that there is a genuine interest as well as let you relate and understand what people tell you. I think it would be very hard to do any meaningful study of any group, RL or SL, without at least visiting their world and talking to people there. How effective would it be to study a group of people whithout seeing where they live and only talking to a small minority of them through text? I would think you miss a lot in the environment they live and also how they communicate. I think you would benefit greatly by spending a few nights in SL. You could relate to the people you want to talk to easier and, who knows, might even like the place enough to stay a bit and look around.:cathappy: All that being said, I would be willing to answer questions inworld if you would like. Just IM me and we can chat. I hope you the best of luck on your research.
  6. Suki Hirano wrote: There is no way to steal anything from you other than: - Consenting to allowing control of your $L account (affiliate vendors and split profit scripts usually) - Accidentally clicking "join" in group invite phishing scams (spam everyone with an invite to a group that costs X amount of $L to join then hope some sucker will click "join") Accepting an object but not wearing it is perfectly harmless. You can then rez it on the ground to see what it is. You never know if it's just some person being nice. If you do rez on ground to check it out, best to do in no script area.
  7. I never go to the forums, and certainly never post....um.... Seems to me, youd would have to go out and activly seek people you see posing on forums, and even then it would be hard to find them.
  8. Coby Foden wrote: In the Markeplace search for "shape tools". You will get a box with some useful tools for shape adjusting. There is even height HUD included, which gives very close the right height. (Shape Tools is free.): Thank you. Found it. It seems to be pretty accurate to what I measured with a prim.
  9. Jo Yardley wrote: After messing about with shape. I am 1.5m tall now. Seems its hard to get an easy height measurement outside of rezzing a prim and measuring yourself. In the end, this is the only real way to find out how tall your avatar is. That sucks. It would be nice to have a fast way to do it.
  10. Coby Foden wrote: Reikokimyo wrote: Speaking of getting proper proportions, how do you do so with an avi taller than 1.5m tall? I currently stand that height (according to LL's measurement in edit shape window) and my arm lenth slider is at max, but my arms come just shy of your measuring object (by about 10cm). I can't see it being possible to do with an avi any taller (I usually try and stay shorter than norma). Linden Lab viewer's edit shape window does not show the right avatar height. It shows what is called "Agent Height", and this avatar's agent height is shorter than the avatar. You should measure yourself with a prim to get the real height of your avatar. Some viewers show pretty close the same height for avatar as measured by prim (for example: Firestorm, Phoenix). Then there are scripted height measuring objects. Unfortunately many of them show the "Agent Height" not the real avatar height. There are also HUDs for measuring avatar height. So the only exactly accurate way to measure avatar height is doing it by prim. Streching the prim from the sole of the feet up to the top of the skull (without hair, without shoes and shoe shapers). After messing about with shape. I am 1.5m tall now. Seems its hard to get an easy height measurement outside of rezzing a prim and measuring yourself.
  11. Pussycat Catnap wrote: Reikokimyo wrote: I think people are reading into Pussycat's post wrong. She can correct me if I'm wrong. I think shes talking about the fact that you cannot make a proportional avi correctly if youre over a certain (average?) height. I don't think she is railing against people that honestly want to make the avi they way they do, with intentionally different proportions. Yep. The thing you'll learn in art school too is that if you want to distort -EFFECTIVELY- (to trigger a certain mood in yourself or your viewer) you need to first understand how to do it without distortion, so you can then learn what to distort and how for any given effect. If you look at some really top notch 'stylized animation' - those artists have a consistency to how they distort, one that creates a powerful mood in the visual. Shooting in the dark though - not knowing where you are going or how, will always deliver a weaker message / weaker visual. And I don't believe that most people want to be distorted. They just don't know how to be proportional - while proportions are pretty simple, they are not easy. And the SL dials work against us in reaching them... Oh and the other day I found someone who's been posting proportion guides even longer than Penny or I. Going to link that person to my blog. I'd link it here, but last time I did that the mods got jumpy... seems in the no advertising policy, only advertisements can be linked here. Articles, which are ok by the policy, will be deleted... Lastly while I have a to scale avatar, I am -NOT- arguing scale, but proportion. Related, but not identical. Some others are arguing scale and proportion, or just scale, or like me just proportion. I think people forget that scale and proportion are different things. I got your proportion thing yesterday, and am now proportionate, but my scale is smaller than most. Speaking of getting proper proportions, how do you do so with an avi taller than 1.5m tall? I currently stand that height (according to LL's measurement in edit shape window) and my arm lenth slider is at max, but my arms come just shy of your measuring object (by about 10cm). I can't see it being possible to do with an avi any taller (I usually try and stay shorter than norma).
  12. Melita Magic wrote: If you were talking with it then it wasn't a bot. It was a person. Are you sure it was beggar bot? But because it gave you back 60L doesn't mean the rest of what it has, by its own admission, done, is right or okay, or legal or within TOS. Not in my opinion. Not sure why LL is allowing it to continue, either. Things like this, ignored, will drive away the user base eventually. Yes, I am positive it was a bot. The script posted earlier was exact. Just happened to be the person came in and typed things about halfway through. There is a log of the convo I posted elsewhere, I can send a link if youre really interested. I'm not saying everything it has done is right, just that the person behind it isnt a hearless person. She did seem to be sorry that an actual person was negitivly affected. Maybe that part of the whole thing was lost on her. I know for myself, and am sure for others, that you sometimes forget you are dealing with real people here when you dont really connect with them in a personal way. I really don't care to get into weither or not what she is doing is morally right nor breaking the TOS. I just offer my story as maybe something to get a little laugh out of. I know I did when the beggar bot offered my money back, after figuring my money was long gone as a price to pay for learnign something new.
  13. I think people are reading into Pussycat's post wrong. She can correct me if I'm wrong. I think shes talking about the fact that you cannot make a proportional avi correctly if youre over a certain (average?) height. I don't think she is railing against people that honestly want to make the avi they way they do, with intentionally different proportions. I think there needs to be tools to make an avi RL proprtional. Seems like maybe the tools arent made for that, and as a result, SL has ended up with standard that looks way off. I've noticed lots of avis that somehow just dont look right to me. It's not something I could ever put my finger on. I do know things have gotten better over the years. Used to be that hardly any skirts would fit me, because I had a butt. Now, things are different, I see more females with hips, butts and actual legs rather than toothpicks. So, hopefully we are getting out of the era of poor body shapes due to ignorance and bad tools. I will have to pick up that body checker that Pussycat has out, as I want to tune my shape more, as there is something not quite right about it.
  14. The bot isn't all that bad. I got scammed out of 60l after first returning to SL after a long break. A few days ago the beggar bot contacted me as I entered a store, and I somehow got its attention with sarcastic answers. We had a nice convo, she even proposed to me lol. I tiold her she got me once awhile back with her scam, she ended up giving me the money back.
  15. I wouldnt say you need to be an expert, just be educated on how things go together. I'm no expert at all, but can build something that suits me. I agree that you do need to have one built for your needs, thats how you can save some money, by eliminating the stuff you wont use as well as not needing to buy stuff you already have (monitor, keyboard, mouse ect). But building your own isnt for everyone, I offer it as a suggestion to maybe help someone that thinks they can benefit from it.
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