Thank you Nalate I will check out the tutorial and see how it works out.
The only problem Im having with blender 2.63a is i have to be careful with how i extrude things so that i dont reverse the normals and have it inside out, but that only happens if i delete all but one face and extrude away from the front face. That actually gave me a great idea for a full armor set.
What i was looking for was something so i dont get clipping with anything so it fits better ont he model, which is why i was looking for a base AV to model on, for a better fit.