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Ok it looks like they straightened up the boundary and there is a now a void between the privacy screen and the boundary line. I guess my backside was dragging over the line while editing. For years, they had the corner of the house sticking through the wall so I got into the habit of not looking up when I was close to the boundary.

AR? I'm not on their land. It's one of those rentals with an over-compensating privacy screen. Their security orb is just the other side of it.

Does anyone know if Linden can give any help if a neighbour's security orb interferes with your parcel? One of the rental companies has the place nextdoor. I'm not a customer so they don't answer IMs. They have the orb right against the boundary and I'm getting thrown home when I'm trying to edit stuff on my own land.

http://www.outworldz.com/secondlife/posts/breedable-pet-robot/ Hope this helps.

http://www.outworldz.com/secondlife/posts/breedable-pet-robot/

My point exactly. You aren't going to take my word for it and frankly that is insulting

I am not being aggressive. I have been stressed out of my mind for days just trying to get people to understand that this was not a glitch or anything that i'd done. How many times have people told me in these threads that it simply wasn't possible for someone to delete my objects? I don't know how she did it but she did. She was taking the objects inside and I don't think she needed to destroy the objects but she did. She even destroyed an innocent table that didn't contain any objects at all. Doesn't matter how irrational you think I am for suggesting that is what happened ... that is the reality. Who gave me explanations that accounted for the observations? If someone had access to my account they would take my money not delete a load of pixel wool and pixel bread!!!! Why would I ask her how she did it? I've never met her or spoken to her and I'm hardly likely to start now.

They caught her!!! and yes I was defensive and I apologise for that but when anyone has anything like this happens why do other users turn on the person it happens to and try to find other explanations? I've been told that maybe I put 'crappy' scripts in my vendors to make them self destruct - really? What about the idea that someone hacked my account because i downloaded a dodgy viewer? Never happened! This was a destructive individual who sat at the edge of the sim for hours over several days destroying my work. She had been doing this on small scale for weeks before she started destroying the meshes! It's only because someone spotted her cam and her edit lines directed at items in my stall as they disappeared that she got caught. Finally it's over! Moving on ...

I am so sorry that happened to you and glad you managed to keep positive and keep going.

They caught her!!!!! Yay!!!!

The items in side are transfer /no-copy/ no-modify.

Ok I never said I understood copybots - I am not a crook and don't think about things that way. In-world , a couple of people who know more mentioned that an illegal viewer could do this.I am guessing these have more functions than just copybotting. I do use a couple of different viewers apart from the SL viewer .However these are both very widely supported in-world, downloads and updates from the main sites only;Singularity and FS. So no! I DO NOT think there is any coding in the back end of these that is giving away my account details. Here's something that none of the posters who are so anxious to shoot me down in flames have missed ... I have been on SL for nearly 5 years. I don't post a lot and I'm not especially whiney. Whatever is happening here is not my usual experience of SL and I wouldn't be posting if it was!!!!

The group setting is a small group of careful people, all of who I have known for more than a couple of years and who don't go around destroying other people's stuff. Does that answer your question? As for buggy vendor scripts these are widely used and likely to be exactly the same as all the other vendors around me that didn't get vaped. Who is irrational? I never said the contents were taken - they are gone with the objects and cannot be replaced

Hi Alwin, Can you outline a bit more about your own experience of being copybotted to make that clear?

Hi Dres, I wasn't there when the items got trashed. I had 60+ vendors on one of the markets in-world. They had been in place working with no problems for over 1 month maybe 2 months. They are gone except for a couple where the scripts were deleted. LL have confirmed there was no inventory return by me. Two nights later another two were deleted. So it's malicious not accidental and sim rollback is not a possibility because others would lose even more than I did. The most important thing is to move forward, so I am splitting the thread- if you have experiences like this and can answer the questions where to look for copybotted items? How to be more proactive against the people who do this? We can keep this thread going for suggestions about what might have caused this

Please reply to this thread if you can answer the following questions evidenced from your own experience. Where are copybotted items likely to turn up? links to sites outside SL would be welcome. What can users do to make the scammers lives as miserable as possible? I am think here of ways to lure them in and consume as much of their time and other resources as we can. Please don't reply to this thread if you have already been kind enough to reply to my earlier thread -What can users do about copybots?

Indeed. I may have to post a new thread to get some answers

I don't mind helpful suggestions when they actually help. Can we assume a couple of things here ... 1. I can read .... I've seen those messages around region restarts and I understand them just as well as you do. 2. When I say my objects were destroyed. That is what happened. I am not incompetent or making stuff up. Going back to the original post .... Where do we look for the copied items? How can we make life difficult for the scammers?

Alwin - these are vendors ! the items inside are (no copy) the transactions are in lindens. There was no region restart when the items "disaapeared" I am not sure why that is a problem

So if it's not a copybot - what is it? The person behind the viewer is still going to be a malicious idiot whether or not this is called a copybot.

First I should say that I am really angry and disaapointed that so many people have their heads in the sand about copybotting. If it didn't happen to them most people don't want to know. I have had meshes deleted, scripts damaged and I have no way of counting how many non-copy items were lost because they were in the contents of the meshes .... on top of all this well meaning people are happy to waste even more of my time telling me to check my 'Lost and Found', asking me if the parcel was set to auto-return, did I rename the item? etc. etc. Their problem is that they just don't want to acknowledge that this happens (including LL) and it's easier to blame the person that it happens to than to do something about it. My problem is that I come here to create. I don't mind taking simple precautions to protect my work as far as possible but I don't want to get bogged down in the technicalities of viewer software and server hardware. That is taking me too far away from what I want to do which is to create. I used to work in IT but I don't do that anymore .... that's LL's job isn't it? Moving forward - If I create a really fancy geranium meshed from 126 prims down to 1prim plus I put a gorgeous humming bird emmitter inside .... Do I really care if someone copies it? Provided they don't destroy it, probably not because I've had all the fun I'm going to get out of that. If I put weeks of work into creating really complex vendors with 1000's of lindens worth of other people's no-copy items inside then I do care a great deal. The cheats can't tell the difference. My first response is to carry on creating. That is what I come to SL to do and the bulk of my time should be spent doing just that. Elsewhere on the internet, I am a huge fan of sites that trap the scammers. I can't publicise the sites here but it really does my heart good to see the scammers get a humiliating slap plus having hours of their time and their financial resources wasted. What can we do to make life difficult for cheaters and scammers in SL? Where do we start looking for our copied items?

Hi, I've just made a chair for a normal size avi out of 3 prims. In the edit window it says it's 3 prims so I didn't accidently link it to my house or anything like that - but the land costs are 74 prims!. It's not possible. It had a sit target script which rezzed an extra helper but i deleted that once i didn't need it. Over the last few weeks I've had a problem with builds that suddenlt have insufficient land resources to link them. They suddenly disappear when i'm editing the. They go back to inventory and i can't get them out again because of the 'parcel is too full' error. I've tried on the sandboxes but i just can't get them out of inventory so I guess the objects are permannetly corrupted, somehow. Has anyone else had problems with this? Is there some kind of griefing tool that does this? This is nothing to do with the changes in the cost of mesh. I have another chair I made earlier in the day where the 1 prim seat is costed at 7 prims. The same seat in the later chair (same size, etc) is costed at 10 prims. I have chair legs which are mesh, costed at 1 prim and 2 prim in different chairs.