The thing is, I first tried rebooting and take away all the cords and etc, that didnt work, i tried clean all cache( i mean all). and rebooted the computer that didnt worked, ive deleted and reinstalled diffrent viewers about 13 times now. Ive tried being on others routers neighbours wich im alloweed acces to and they been kind to try and reboot their routers too. I tried to change or apply the DNS source or what to call it from google and nothign relay helped there either . And im on a diffrent router now,and internet provider now too and well nothing i do will work. i even have shut down the antivirus program and the firewall, that didnt help either. It's just sl viewer and firestorm that don't work but singularity works, and all credit for them but i realy like sl viewer and firestorm, but as for now i doubt i will be able to log in through them. And im pretty sure the problem isnt Me or well my computer,router or anything else! Since i do get online with singularity and nothing i do will help me get online on either sl or firestorm. Just makes me sad :matte-motes-not-even: