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  1. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Nah, they had plenty of reviews from steam users that confirmed a lot of existing comments, many of which came from the undecided-on-the-platform. They ask and ask for feedback then have no bandwidth to actually implement it. But hey if it's their money if they want to spend it to get more of the same results.
  2. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Something smells fishy, I know they know what people want. And they have a mountain of that info on their forums and in their discord all for free.
  3. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Lumyia is a mobile client for SL. Sansar unlikely to ever have one, unless it's just for chat, which I think they said they actually have something internal on that.
  4. Gindipple

    A Sansar Journal

    Of course noone wants to look like a clone... And people don't generally come to play WoW because of the avatars, they are somewhat diverse yes and you can even use their little outfit collection thingy. But the point of the matter is it's 2ndary to the entire rest of it. Minecraft makes that abundantly clear in that its graphics are pretty much classic 8bit. What makes these places awesome is all the other stuff (actual game play capability). So if Sansar focuses on the avatar they will miss the boat on this one. And so far it seems they are on a different boat.
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    A Sansar Journal

    LOL, no offense to those that want 3D Barbie World, but why go after a paltry 1/3 of population of SL (which btw I think is a rather larger overestimation if you narrow it to PG13) instead of the much larger group of online gamers. Just seems like a waste of an otherwise pretty decent rendering engine. They don't have the staff to do more than one aspect, and they dan't seem to know which direction they want to go. I can't imagine all they wanted was SL 2.0 and they've said they haven't many times. But everything I see get prioritized seems to reflect that. So maybe that's all we end up with. Kinda sad when it could have competed with something like Unity instead. If they want the SL population there, then omg are they going about it weird.
  6. Gindipple

    A Sansar Journal

    Doesn't seem like it was a mistake for Minecraft or World of Warcraft, but if 3D barbie is all you're after then sure. And don't forget it's slated to be PG13 in Sansar, so your barbie can't really get too crazy. Now who's the audience for this avatar dress up product?
  7. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Normally I'd agree with you on this not trusting the source, but I physically went and compared reported numbers to actual live people on an experience often to make certain that that was not the case. There are a few afk bot like people occasionally, but not enough to consider more than simply someone who logged in and left themselves there and went out for dinner. I'm not saying steam numbers aren't great for some games. But they also aren't perfect by any stretch. Bottom line is know the data you're looking at and make sure you know what that data actually represents instead of making an error and assuming it tells you something that really isn't there. And trust me LL data isn't perfect either, missing from the graphs is the first few months the data was available. It was horribly broke so I don't even consider it worth showing. And there was some code glitches where 50,000 people showed up in one experience. I had to manually go in and correct issues like this to keep the data clean. It is by far the closet representation of active users on public regions there is and there are other people that monitor the same data and theirs compares similar to mine. And I've said before, there could be 1,000 people hiding on private experiences. But I consider this highly unlikely as you would see some bleed over from that at certain events. We seen the most number of avatars on at any given time when they had a comedy even. It peaked at around 100 users. And if there is 1,000 people hermitting on private experiences you have to ask yourself, do they matter? Only if they are spending money. Something we can't so easily track, but we can look at a few users sales data and I did in the past. I seen no real indication that this was the hidden gem. VRChat exploded from a few 100 over night to 20,000 due to some strange circumstances. That could just as easily happen to Sansar, but let's not forget just how bad that was for VRChat too. LL seems to be after SLOW and steady. That's all fine and dandy and can work provided they have a very dedicated source of income. So keep spending them $L and they will get there 😉
  8. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    A common misconception is that there is a different version of Sansar. There is not. Steam detects you running the client from the Steam launcher. But it merely launches the same exact version of the client if you don't run it from the launcher. Steam seems to only collect that data in their charts. Their data is however all over the place compared to the LL supplied head count data. Sometimes lower sometimes higher. It is a different view of data. So what you have to ask your self is what do I wish to learn from the data? And the general answer that would seem to me to be the most important would be something like: If I went to Sansar how many people would I expect to see at a given point in time or at a given place? For that answer you would most closely find the correct answer in the head count supplied by LL because it counts the number of active people on public places. In other words it excludes anyone in a non-public place. People you would not expect to see if you went there. With the Steam charts you might see the people on public regions plus the people on private regions plus the people sitting at the login screen minus the people that logged in without using Steam. So you can quickly see there why the steam charts are not very relevant for any analysis. That said the data isn't hugely off from the head count from LL overall. That data only points to concurrency. The data we don't have easy access to is sales. For that someone would have to poll data from a large enough sample of users and aggregate it into something meaningful. You can now see here as the averaging starts to get under way for January that the Steam impact is almost non-existent. But do keep in mind this is a real time running average and it could change he further we move into January. And there may be a lag time from someone's introduction to a platform to their showing up and hanging around too. https://gyazo.com/61e64100b8894b088f55c99afffc8314
  9. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Concurrency bumped up from Steam slightly, but it has followed the general trend of no retention. The reviews aren't great on Steam and are trending downward. Have heard sales are increased for free items. That the website can't remember me is just astonishing.
  10. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    Don't know where you see 1.7 at, but I'll give you a hint about numbers there, they are averages. I know it's probably a new thing for you.
  11. Gindipple

    Sansar is now officially on Steam

    I wouldn't put much faith in them steam charts, they don't track real user usage very well. I've been tracking the usage since the popularity feature was added so judge for yourself. You can see out there at the end the Steam spike. Note this only tracks the data available to me, people in public places. Which should be a pretty good measure of real activity in Sansar. https://gyazo.com/74692d84835ccc7875a4575737c9bcbd
  12. Gindipple

    Partner's crashes are wearing me out

    Ironically that's what she thought the first answer was going to be lol Yea I'm used to ticket systems and corporate ownership responsiveness, sad state of affairs. Maybe I'll waste my time on that route, but by no means expecting results from that venture. Maybe I just revert back to world of warcraft, it was stable. Hrmm wonder if it had something to do with 11 million paying customers LMAO
  13. Gindipple

    Partner's crashes are wearing me out

    Her computer is 3 months old, she wants to reinstall the OS as well, which I see as a ludicrus avenue. People have all too often jumped at reinstalling the OS when an application is what is clearly at fault. I have had her get recent grafix card drivers, and for the last 2 logins she hasn't crashed, so I'm slightly opptomistic with that, but nervously too. My biggest issue is if it continues to crash, what are the official Linden's avenue of resolving this? Do I open a ticket that says game crashes? I mean I'm a computer programmer and it's sad that that is all I could basically tell them. Do they have noone else crashing constantly? I can't imagine that lol. I crash constantly, but differently than her and I know it's from piss poor memory management and know if I cam alot or explore alot that I need to expect it. Nonetheless pathetic...
  14. Gindipple

    Partner's crashes are wearing me out

    unfortunately I can't remote into her machine, I can do limited screen sharing with skype, what I really need is some way of eliminateing variables and log tracking for the actual real reason for the crash. I fell out of my chair last week when the crash logger was crashing on my own PC, good job Lindens.... Reviewing my own crash logs gives me menaingless info, what I can tell is they can't or don't know how to handle memory management worth a crap.
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    Partner's crashes are wearing me out

    I have a real problem with this multipler viewers available, it makes helping someone damn near impossible, you say go to this menu location and they are like huh? Linden's fail for not forcing either a closed API are at least the menu system closed. And on 2 of them viewers she did try, they resulted in some LL Bridge in all of her clothing outfit directories, and when she'd log in half the time she would have a rock on her chest. I researched this and finally had her completely uninstall both of them permanently. When working with someone at a distance, you need to have a standard interface.
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