Velk Kerang

I'm sure she does. Just simply saying you can't monitor how active a community is by land numbers and statistics alone.😎

Well all I can really say mate is that I hope those numbers are actually correct and that they are signs of a comeback. We still got a long way before we hit the numbers we had back in the day. That personal perception is common among the masses. The sim searches alone are proof of that. The other thing to keep in mind is a lot of those sims are not a reflection on SL's actual active community because most of those are inactive. Especially on Mainland. I keep a small amount of land in world. I know for a fact I am not active like I used to be. I come on for social aspects or to maybe watch a movie and to help friends when I can and then I am out.👍 The point being just because I pay the land bill doesn't exactly make me an active member of SL anymore. In fact I dropped a lot of land on here that I used to own down to a small parcel until the day I decide to become more active on here because it made no sense to maintain land that was hardly ever being used. So to me all those numbers really reflect is how many people still bother to even pay their land bills on here. lol😎

I'd say SL has definitely gotten a lot smaller. There are way less sims now then there used to be back in the day. People just don't want to pay those prices anymore. Take Bloodlines for example. People were spending insane amounts of money on clan sims. I am talking around three thousand dollars a month. I mean I thought it was crazy even back then. Especially to a guy from Star Wars Galaxies who ran an entire Fleet/Guild/Clan of 500 members up where we had to lay more then one hall for and we had our own entire player built city. I about fell out my chair laughing the first time I looked at sim prices because that was just to crazy to me. lol🤦‍♂️ The prices haven't really changed much either, but the economy has. People just don't want to pay stupid amounts of money to own land on here anymore. I know I don't and why should I? I mean I can build everything I build on here either in a sandbox or on OS Grid or in games like Garry's Mod where it doesn't cost me nothing at all. So really what motivation do people have in purchasing sims other then to have more prims or try their hand at a business or something? The average person will look at those prices and laugh just like I did and think they are out of their ever loving minds. lol🤦‍♂️ As for activities on SL I believe the reason we see less of it is because for one the population is smaller and for two why deal with lag on SL when you can fire up a game on Steam and do the same thing and get better performance on top of visuals? A lot of stuff I used to do on SL I find myself doing them in other games now. Like racing for example. I used to race all the time on SL and now I find myself more likely to fire up a Need For Speed game instead. Why? Performance on SL is steadily worse over the years.🤦‍♂️ Boxing? Nope. Same goes for that. I was a professional boxer on here. Now days people show up trying to box wearing all kinds of mesh and bento. Step in a ring with me I'll more then likely just laugh in your face and tell you out right that you can't be serious. lol School you on how to get whipped and then advise you to loose all that mesh and bento crap the very next time you step in to the ring. lol It's one of the reasons I don't even so much as bother to even spar on here anymore. To many pretty boxers and no challenge at all. lol🤣 So ya most people have and are basically moving on to other platforms for a lot of things they want to do and most people I know only come on here for either business, social aspects, and/or role play. I won't even go in to my opinions on the other services and stuff. All I will say is they need to step up their A game and they'd need to sweeten that pot and come way entirely down on those sim prices in order to bring a lot of people back. If not then all I can say is enjoy it while it lasts mates. Enjoy it while it lasts.😎

I know, right? lol You should. I been thinking about it since you mentioned it. lol I got mine packed up in a box I thought about breaking back open just to revisit it for the nostalgia of it. lol I absolutely love piloting games. The last one I played was a space one called Elite Dangerous on Steam. A friend of mine peaked my curiosity in that one only because he told me they used actual scientific data to create some of the maps in it. I figured that was about as close to space exploration as I was going to get. lol It's definitely a nice break from the survival games I am always playing.👍😎 Since you played Aces High I'll mention this game. You may or may not have played this before. It's an mmo call WW2 Online. I found this one to be very challenging and a thinking game because just like in rl you can be taken down with a single bullet. It's definitely not the average run and gun type of game. The graphic's are a bit dated since it's from 2001, but I had a lot of fun playing this. It reminded me of some of the battles we had on SL on the WW2 rp sims and it still has an active community.👍 In regards to what we talked about with the swastika's I know for a fact they are not in this game. I did recall something after our talk that may be worth mentioning. From what I remember after having thought about it some more the developers at the time said it had something to do with an international law in Germany if I am not mistaken. Whether that is still in effect I don't know and how that all plays in to the decision on whether or not some games have it and some don't I don't really know. Honestly I didn't put much thought in to it at the time they explained it back then because I always played allied forces anyway and really in a game like this if you're shooting at me then I'm not trying to inspect your uniform. lol🤣 But ya I just thought that might be another relevant factor. It's possible someone caught wind of it in SL which was why such a stink was made over it and a lot of that content that had been on here for years got removed. Which sucks if your going for historical accuracy, but it is what it is. Anyway these are the links in case you want to check them out mate.😎 WW2 Online. https://store.steampowered.com/app/251950/WWII_Online/ And. https://www.wwiionline.com/ Elite Dangerous. https://store.steampowered.com/app/359320/Elite_Dangerous/ Edit: Thought I'd add this video for inspiration in case you decide to play either of the WW2 games. lol👍😉😁😎 Edit Again: Just an FYI. I looked up that law and apparently that ban had been lifted. So definitely a SJW thing these days.😎

Same here mate. I love to go out dancing. Can't do it in RL these days. The wife and I do it all the time. We wind down and talk about our day while listening some good tunes. Nothing wrong with that at all.👍😎

It's always been an issue. Especially with clothes. Other items depending on the item your buying usually it's the scripts that are restrictive. On occasion you'll find a creator that is a jerk about the permissions. Back when I rp'ed on a Star Trek sim I bought a Klingon Bird of Prey that was very nicely done. You couldn't mod or decorate the ship though which made it a complete waste of money for me. I asked the creator since they sold a full perm version of the shell if they could send me a modifiable copy of the ship I purchased so could customize it. They refused. The ship now resides in my crap folder of other useless junk a long side my Millennium Falcon and Supernatural "67 Chevy Impala I had the same exact issue with. Needless to say I don't buy ships and vehicles on SL anymore. lol If I can't customize it then I don't buy it anymore. Problem solved.👍😎

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Ya I am very well aware of and know all about Aces High and the creator has an actual legitimate reasons for not adding it. That's why I didn't comment on it. As for COD I was speaking on the over all development process of that game. Yes they were added because it was in the final release. Game development goes in various stages. All that article tells you about is why they made the changes they made up on the actual release of the game. Stop nitpicking mate. lol😎 Edit: Just for clarification for those who haven't actually heard of the game. It's Aces High 3 that is still active and online. Here is the Steam page and official web site for anyone interested.😎 https://store.steampowered.com/app/651090/Aces_High_III/ And. https://www.hitechcreations.com/index.php

I'm not at all surprised mate. I know they had a few Gacha only stores out there. I never really went to any of them myself unless someone took me there. I normally just buy what I want to out right. Thanks for pointing that out though. I probably missed that bit. That thread was starting to make my eyes bleed. lol🤣😎

Well I respect your opinion in this. It's been some years so I can't recall what exactly what was on his uniform. Let's just say it was. Personally I feel like it was over kill. I feel like all they had to do was ask dude to remove it and I am sure he would have. To me it defeats the purpose of what an anti-griefer group is actually there for. This guy was not bothering anybody. He certainly didn't do anything ban worthy. So to me it is stupid because just because you offended me doesn't entitle you to a permanent game ban.👍 The WW2 sim has been there for ages and I am sure they are with in the guidelines of the TOS. It's only over the course of the last few years has the swastika thing really become an issue where people cried about it and content for that RP was removed off of market and game designers and such were forced to remove them. It's all politics. History is history. People try to change and rewrite it in video games and more often then not it becomes a parody. I forget which one, but one of the Call of Duty games is a perfect example of this where you have the swastika removed, but you have black Nazi's added in. In what world does that even make sense? lol🤣 The issue I have is people are offended by every little thing when the majority of the time they, themselves didn't even live threw anything to even have a true and valid complaint about to begin with. It's like me complaining about slavery when I've never been a slave. That's the type of mentality that is just funny to me. lol🤣 So to me when someone acts all offended because it's politically correct or they just have nothing better to do then to cry about what other people are doing when they have no real life experience to even back it up then I'm sorry, I just find that ignorant as all out heck. To me those people need a hobby mate. lol😎

I am sure word of mouth travels and they will see notices in groups and stuff. All banning Gachas did was take money out of LL's pockets. A lot of creators will just take their businesses to other grids and sell them there if they don't already have something established there already. Same people cheering the Gacha demise don't realize they are slicing their own throats in the long run as well too. Less money circulating in the big money machine means less money and lack of services all around. Just one more step to the inevitable. It's only a matter of time.😎

I don't think I ever really answered this question. My experiences are none. Never met what I would genuinely class as a racist person on SL in all my years here. Having said that what I have seen on here is that generally when it comes to racism from what I have personally witnessed on here is people generally tend to cry wolf a lot and make issues where there are none. I always distance myself from that type of closed minded ignorance as it serves no purpose.👍😎 I've had one altercation on here and it was in one my anti-griefer groups. I probably told this story before, but one of the members of the group was trying to get everyone to report a guy from a WW2 RP sim because of the uniform he wore when he TP'ed to a plane shop of all places to purchase a plane for use on that sim if I recall right. Clearly stated in his profile he is an RP character mind you. Long story short I told dude to piss off. lol I can't stand people who cry about stupid things. lol🤦‍♂️😎

This right here is exactly right. LL charges what they charge because they can get away with it. In reality a lot of builders would rather pay a $20 dollar a month hosting fee for an entire region on another grid and then port their creations to main grid rather then paying the costs here. Some just host them themselves. Unless your dealing in real estate then I've personally never found it cost effective to invest in a full on sim from a business perspective and even that is unstable ground on investment returns. I should know I managed a few of them back in the day and would go over the books and that was back when SL was booming in population. lol😎

Oh I think it's a good idea actually. I don't disagree with you. This is just one of those situations where I can see both sides of the coin on it. It's sort of why I am indifferent to it after having read what everyone else had to say on it. Anyway I'm glad your having an amazing time and I hope you and the family enjoy the rest of your vacation. Stay safe and stay blessed mate.👍😎

No worries. Your good. lol I didn't find it rude. I got a good laugh out of it actually. Thanks mate. lol I'm gonna Scooby dance to it. lol👍😜😁😎 I'm feeling pretty Klingon today so I've been listening to this track I came across not to long ago. lol😎

I love that rule. Goes right a long with my don't be an asshat rule. Friend or otherwise. lol I like where your heads at.👍😁🤣😎

I don't really have any rules for friendships. If your a mate and on my list then I'll let you know if I am busy or not. Everything else can sort itself out over time. Just don't be an asshat. lol All though I am down with that 10 minutes of settling in time on log in. That would be nice. lol👍😉😁😎

OMG. Why did you remove those? They were totally awesome. I can't even step away. lol I was about to respond with a thank you and bookmark them. lol🤣😎

There is truth only. That MY truth BS is for people who don't live in reality. Just say no. Don't do it. lol Not a jab. Just a clarification. Sorry. I'm just messing around. Pet peeve. Moving on. lol👍 All jokes a side. I don't disagree with you. I really don't. You'd be on the side of people I said who don't really want to deal with that nonsense. I honestly do not blame you one bit. The reality is the animosity is already constantly going on around here. When I originally advocated for it I thought to myself maybe if it's confined the rest of the forums wouldn't be so bad. After reading what you and some others said I reconsidered my position and thought to myself your probably right. It'd turn in to one big poop show anyway so why bother really? lol So I'm just meh about it and that's just sort of my attitude about it right now.😎

I know, right? lol Poor @Janet Voxel. lol Either laughing or probably wishing she hadn't even started this thread. lol Let's get serious here people. Quiet discussion time. lol👍😜😁😂🤣😎👍

I'm not disagreeing with you. I actually think it would be healthy. Like it was pointed out though it'd bleed in to other sections of the forums because of those people who like to hold grudges. The forums are at times very one sided and toxic as heck and that's on a normal day. Out of every community I've been in these forums are actually the worse. I'm not even kidding on that. A lot of times it's very one sided around here and if you don't fall in line like your some sheep then you basically have a target on your back. So you definitely need a thick skin.👍 More then likely your ALM logo got removed because somebody cried about it or you weren't falling in line and being politically correct with the rest of the herd. lol New people get it the worst. I feel so bad for new people on these forums because more often then not they are met with stupid smart ass remarks. Which is why my visits more often then not are in short bursts. I'll be active one minute and then ghost for several months once the BS meter hits the full mark. lol When it's on empty I return for a refill. lol🤣 I mean it's funny and yet pathetically sad to read some of this stuff that some people say on here because you sit back and think dang so people like you are why the world is in the poop state it is in today. Same people though will be the same ones crying for help when the world goes in diarrhea mode. lol By then it'll be to late. That's some sad stuff. lol Which is why I felt if we had a section where people could take all that noise then maybe it wouldn't be as bad. The reality is it more then likely would be abused and just get worse. If that's even possible. lol😎

You'll get no argument from me mate. The more I thought about it you all are probably right. What works in one community doesn't always work in another. Realistically@Bree Giffenhad a valid point about it bleeding out. I can see that happening on these forums and really they are toxic enough at times with out any additional help. So ya looking at it from that angle I had to change my vote. lol😎

You actually made a very good and valid point. Some people do have issues letting things go. Well said mate.👍😎

I noticed mention of some groups in world regarding connecting in terms of social aspects and that would be very correct. The thing to remember is a lot of the groups you see out there are not regulated or ran by actual professionals. I know I vetted several of them over the years. My point being one unregulated section of the forum would make perfect sense. Be it for political topics or otherwise. In the Star Wars Galaxies community (SWGEmu) you will actually find a locked off section of the forums called The Sarlacc Pit that you have actually look for and sign up for it in order for it to even be visible. This is the gloves off no holds barred section of the forums. The rules are very relaxed to almost non-existent. You have to really cross a serious line in order for someone to step in and break it up. Like threatening somebodies RL or something heavy like that. And if it hits that point you basically out right asked for it. For people against a section like this I would say this on it. I've been part of that community since day one so we're talking as far back as 2003. I only just opted in that section about a year or so back for some popcorn fun as someone put it. lol So if it's not for you then just don't sign up for it. So just like everything isn't regulated in world it only makes sense to have at least one unregulated section on the forums. I mean I seriously doubt LL will do it anyway just because somebody will always have something to cry about. They probably don't want to deal with that nonsense. I can't say I blame them in all honesty. lol I'm just simply pointing out the fact that having one wouldn't hurt anything other then those weak peoples feelings who like to push that report button a lot. I'm just saying. lol😎

Never had that happen before. If I did I'd just mute them and go back to my movies. lol That actually happened to you or something? If it did then you must have really gotten under their skin and I need to know your secrete. lol😁 I like where your heads at. lol👍