Charli Infinity

Profile is empty because I left last year removed most of everything before I left. Logged in this year to see what's up...but nothing much is up...same old stuff. You're just one of those people that can't take my opinion.

You are so weird pamela. A lot of psychological projection. I did accept the answers that's why I said "I guess the only people that stayed in SL to this point are the people that can stand more before getting bored." You have been the one that's unhappy with my opinion that I find SL boring these days, you're the one that was accusing me "You are trying, and failing, to make the point that there is something wrong with SL" I was the one that said not everyone has the same opinion about SL "You're not the only one that experience SL. It's just that not everyone have the same opinion of SL as you." Really twisting things around by switching what I've said as yours and you taking personal offense of my opinion of SL as boring as if I'm saying you are boring really makes it look like you have a problem with differentiating and recognizing identity, not being able to differentiate your own identity apart from the identity of another entity. Really weird.

Looking at the interest over time chart really makes me question if LindenLab really knows what's best for itself...looks like they've been focusing on the wrong things for years for the chart to look like that or maybe they've just given up years ago.

I guess the only people that stayed in SL to this point are the people that can stand more before getting bored.

Pamela Galli wrote: Charli Infinity wrote: You're weird pamela. You don't find it boring so I can't? What the virtual hell... Those are your reason why you're not bored not mine. Maybe you think you are the whole of SL and that's why it bothers you that I find SL boring these days. Again, YOU asked if we ever get bored! And when we do you say the above! You are trying, and failing, to make the point that there is something wrong with SL, that it is boring. And I am saying, SL like RL is what YOU bring to it. To be clear, of course not all creative-imaginative ppl are going to like SL. And not everyone who likes SL is creative-imaginative. I am saying that for the most part, being creative-imaginative means you are more likely to find SL endlessly engaging. No pamela. You have a problem with me finding SL boring because you cannot accept anyone having a different opinion than you and when you encounter someone with a different opinion you accused them of something. No. You're not the only one that experience SL. It's just that not everyone have the same opinion of SL as you. Learn to accept that instead of accusing people of something.

You're weird pamela. You don't find it boring so I can't? What the virtual hell... Those are your reason why you're not bored not mine. Maybe you think you are the whole of SL and that's why it bothers you that I find SL boring these days.

It is very different. There were a lot more people back then though things were crappier. It was fun loads of people gathering at dancing clubs and many cafes even newbie areas and they were friendly. Now the only place you'd find more than 3 people are at shops and shopping events minding their own bussiness. Even sandboxes have very little people. There's one sandbox that I used to go as a newbie, it was always filled with people now there's never more than 10 people in it. Loads of people making things with just plain prims in the sandbox back then now I guess everyone's doing mesh outside of SL and only logging in to release their stuff for sale.Compared to SL then, SL now is very dead. Minecraft proved this better things does not equal more fun or more players.

Pamela Galli wrote: Charli Infinity wrote: Wow really you guys are here for years and not bored? A lot of the stuff just look like the same thing repeating it self. Same themes, same look just remade in sculpt then now remade in mesh. I've seen SL through the years. It does get boring there nothing really new about it and what's worse now is that there's so little people in SL compared to years ago. Lots of these places don't even have people in it. It is clear from the responses that SL is like RL -- it's all about what you bring to it. Creative ppl will find ways to make either engaging. Uncreative ppl CAN become more creative, if they want to be (to a limited degree), but my guess is that they really are not interested. Some are just gifted with an intense desire to be creative in SOME way, and some are not. Not everyone wants to spend their time making things and turning their second life into a bussiness in other words a second job you know. Some people are here to have fun, explore and socialise not to run a bussiness. Really as a creator who make your living from SL you should be more appreciative of this group of people because otherwise everyone would make their own stuff, you'd have more competitors and not enough customers to make your bussiness profitable enough to live on. Duplicating stuff that already exist in real life into SL is not that creative at all by the way.

Wow really you guys are here for years and not bored? A lot of the stuff just look like the same thing repeating it self. Same themes, same look just remade in sculpt then now remade in mesh. I've seen SL through the years. It does get boring there nothing really new about it and what's worse now is that there's so little people in SL compared to years ago. Lots of these places don't even have people in it.

Hmm off topic but that just reminded me of another question... What do content creators in SL that make their living in SL fill up in the "Occupation:_______________" section of any form in real life? Always wondered about that. Make enough in SL to support your family in RL? That's amazing.

Wander around but after so many years this just seems like the same thing over and over just better quality.

I've watched it. The love story looks very staged to me. Sure worth watching to see some second life users in real life.

Do you ever feel like you're wasting your life on SL? I've been feeling that way recently. Years gone by since I started my SL.

Those that have been in SL for years. Do you ever get bored? Have you ever left SL for awhile or have you been on here regularly for years? How much time do you spend in SL daily? If you left before what made you come back?

what has to happen according to you nalates

Gaia you are still thinking in the way of LL selling content and taking over the market of SL2. That's not it. They won't take over the market and profit from selling stuff from SL1. That's pointless to create a new world. But they do need basic stuff in the new world. People aren't going to join if it's just an empty world with nothing in it at all. Those basic stuff in it which they provide for free to all users could come from the mesh made in SL1 with a bit of modification. They need to to have stuff in the new world at the point of launching SL2 in order for people to want to join. The need to have clothes before creators join and start making clothes, furniture before creators join and start making them. They need stuff ready at the launching of SL2 to make people want to join. Without enough people wanting to join SL2 there wouldn't even be a market for the new creators.

Even if there were backlash there's nothing the creators could do about it because they agreed by uploading. They gave their consent to LL. If anything people will just see SL creators as dumb people that will just click "agree" to any TOS. Maybe LL won't impose the same TOS in the new world at first just like they didn't until recently in SL and that will make new creators join.

Of course I'm not saying LL will move all creations made in SL to the new world but they could pick the nice ones modify it a little and use those as stuff in the new world.

Who will be doing upgrades and maintenance for the items that will be sold by LL?I wasn't thinking of LL selling the items but they could just make the new world with all the top quality items in second life. The could provide the clothes, furniture and houses with the mesh made in SL with a bit of modification to be used in the new world. Sure beats them having to buy more mesh or hiring a team to make so much content for the new world. Why would LL actually put any effort into a new virtual world at all? They could just sell the items here and now...They are making a new virtual world right. The one people have been calling SL2. Again I wasn't thinking of them selling it. Surely the new world wouldn't be a complete empty blank white screen when you log in. There's going to be stuff in it and they could just use the top quality stuff made in SL there instead of buying new mesh or hiring a team to make stuff for it. Why would Creators step into the new world when LL is already taking over the entire market?Yeah why would they? But by uploading they agreed to the TOS assuming LL won't do anything but it clearly states in the TOS LL is free to exploit their creations any way they like. It's not LL taking over the market but they need basic stuff in the new world and also gifts to entice people to join and to pay for premium membership. Why hire a team to make to stuff when they already have so much stuff they could just give away. Why would Creators even stay in current SL if their work will be grabbed by LL and resold in the new world?Yeah why are they staying? I guess creators are taking for granted LL won't do anything with their content though the TOS does state LL can if LL decides to. Why would users step out of SL and enter the new world when it is made from stuff that already exists in current SL?Because LL could make the stuff for free as basic items for members like the stuff we have in our inventory libraries now. Obviously if they are going to take they'd take the good quality creations and they could modify it in anyway. Beats creating from scratch that will cost LL more money. Actually LL has stated that the compatibility of the new world to the current world is limitted. So who will adjust all the millions of LSL scripts to whatever will be provided in the new world?I don't think they'd bother with the scripts but meshes and textures and sounds. Those will likely be compatible and again sure beats them having to make from scratch. Can you give any example where Linden Lab has taken user content and resold that content within the past 12 years?Nope but that isn't proof they won't start especially with this TOS they set up which will allow them to do it legally.

also animations, textures, songs, sounds... buildings, vehicles... complete avatars, body parts

2.3 You grant Linden Lab certain licenses to your User Content. [..]you agree to grant to Linden Lab, the non-exclusive, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual, and cost-free right and license to use, copy, record, distribute, reproduce, disclose, sell, re-sell, sublicense (through multiple levels), modify, display, publicly perform, transmit, publish, broadcast, translate, make derivative works of, and otherwise exploit in any manner whatsoever, all or any portion of your User Content (and derivative works thereof), for any purpose whatsoever in all formats, on or through any media, software, formula, or medium now known or hereafter developed, and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed, and to advertise, market, and promote the same. You agree that the license includes the right to copy, analyze and use any of your Content as Linden Lab may deem necessary or desirable for purposes of debugging, testing, or providing support or development services in connection with the Service and future improvements to the Service.[..] Thinking of all the creators that spend so much time making nice furnitures and clothes in SL...some really good quality ones. Now that Linden Lab is making a new virtual world, do you think they will fill that world with all the mesh created by creators in this world without giving a dime or any credit at all? How would you feel about it that if it happens? I feel this TOS is really starting to show it's purpose now that LL has revealed they are making a new virtual world. They can do it legally and creators are just supplying LL with a ton of mesh of all sorts free of charge and Linden Lab owns them forever.

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Thanks guys. So a gaming laptop is the only way to go

The early days were so fun everything was new, plenty to explore. There were also more real people.