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Mitsuko Kytori wrote: so I prefer spend time and money to sell for nothing and try to break the system. So you mad at LL because your to impatient to make a real marketing plan, so your next plane is to spend your time and $ trying to break the system by destroying your own business while helping LL out by giving free content to it's users, and renting half a sim to do so. <0

Not trying to be rude, but if your thinking of land in terms of "as simple as a few pieces of stone" you may want to spend some time learning how SL works specialy if your looking to upload mesh to sell. Theres a lot of great looking mesh on the makretplace that is useless in SL due to high land impact. All so if your looking to buy or rent land, to set up a private sand box understanding how land works in SL can save you from making expensive mistakes. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Category:Help/Land http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Mesh/Prims-Prim-Equivalent-Land-Impact-a-too-long-guide/td-p/1293579

I use both worlds, there's a lot to like about both, SL is more advance in many ways, but land is really cheap in inworldz a full island is only 75$ to buy and 75$ monthly tier and comes with 35,000 to 45,000 prims. Inworldz all so has better prims tools, max size is 128m and min size is 0.001 you can all so run small scripts in the build tool to automatically calculate things like prim size and rations. Inworldz has there own scripting language based on LSL but with some improvements, all thoe inworldz lack some of the new functions released in SL they have some of there own like the ability to write to notecards from a script. Monopolys are bad for the consumer so I think having inworldz around is a good thing to give LL some competition, I find there consumer service much more friendly then SL, In a lot of ways it reminded me of the old days of SL. I still spend most my time in SL mostly because of the new features.

I've read a lot of warnings messages over the years in SL, and I've never encountered any of the scams people were talking about. I don't waste a lot of time getting worried over these things, I quickly read them and go on with my life, but I'm glad I read the warnings. This week I got a message that had a link to the marketplace, and because I had read the warnings, I noticed that it had the wrong URL and was using a fake log in page to try to get my account password. I don't see the problem with some one posting to the forums how to identify and locate a spam object so you can avoid or remove it. Had the post just been "OMG PANIC AND OTHER SPAM ATTACK" I can see that as adding to the problem, specially if people start chatting to groups about it. For Those of us that have been in SL for years I can see how post like this could get old, but for new residents this might be the first time they are learning what/how to avoid things like this.

Phaedra that's an interesting idea, not sure if that's a viewer to server side change that LL would need make, but I think it would have to be limited to scaling a whole object that is attached and not the individual linked prims or you end up with the the same problem, if some one edits a prime to the smallest size in an attachment preventing the rest of the object form scaling down any more.

The big 3 L$ earners are renting land, sex, content creation.

The cave is a good place too, once you learn the timing of the rocks falling. All so use the big map to see which of the 6 different realms (3 - 8) has the least people in it for get to realms 7 and 8 you need to go to portal # 2. Time of day can all so be a big factor.

June marketplace transactions: 127 I all so saw a 60% decrease in sales starting 3 weeks ago, but today is doing well, I remember that last 4th of July was all so good for sales, then the summer void started.

To get some free L$ to shop you can make L$ playing linden realms, the quest just shows you around the land which is good to learn then just collect crystals for LS https://secondlife.com/destination/linden-realms-portal-park-1 for building and secripting help try these locations: Ivory Tower Library of Primitives http://slurl.com/secondlife/Natoma/210/163/27/?title=Ivory%20Tower%20Library%20of%20Primitives Texture Tutorial http://slurl.com/secondlife/Livingtree/127/88/26/?title=Texture%20Tutorial College of Scripting, Music, and Science http://slurl.com/secondlife/Horsa/56/243/84/?title=College%20of%20Scripting%2C%20Music%2C%20and%20Science The Particle Laboratory http://slurl.com/secondlife/Teal%20/180/73/21/?title=The%20Particle%20Laboratory%20 if you want to learn scripting here are some useful web pages, you can all so find many free examples to learn from. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Main_Page http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Library http://community.secondlife.com/t5/LSL-Library/bd-p/LSLScriptingLibrary All so there's a whole section of creation forms that would be the best place to ask for specific building and scripting help. And last but not least is this link it's a good place for tutorials mostly for creating clothing and avatar accessories http://www.mermaiddiaries.com/2006/11/build.html If your looking to avoid all that nastiness, what ever you do don't go to RL it's full of it. I don't spend a lot of time in G rated places, they only make up about 10% of SL and about 1/3 of that is owned by LL which a lot of that is just abandoned land and open water. Around 80% of SL is on moderate land, chances are you'll miss MUCH more then you would find nasty on moderate land. Some people even avoid G rates land because it's to restrictive and don't like the idea of getting there account suspended because a sculpted or mesh clothing attachment didn't rez in time for someone else to avoid seeing some skin. It can all so cause problems for club and estate owners who don't want to be responsable for other peoples actions. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Maturity-ratings/ta-p/700119 [second Life's Moderate designation accommodates most of the non-adult activities common in Second Life. Dance clubs, bars, stores and malls, galleries, music venues, beaches, parks, and other spaces for socializing, creating, and learning all support a Moderate designation so long as they do not host publicly promoted adult activities or content and do not use adult search tags. Groups, events and classifieds that relate to this broad range of activities and themes generally should also be designated as Moderate. Residents in these spaces should therefore expect to see a variety of themes and content. Stores that sell a range of content that includes some "sexy" clothing or objects can generally reside in Moderate rather than Adult regions. Dance clubs that feature "burlesque" acts can also generally reside in Moderate regions as long as they don't promote sexual conduct, for instance through pose balls (whether in "backrooms" or more visible spaces). However if any of these businesses uses adult-oriented search tags, the region may be categorized as Adult and blocked from appearing in non-Adult search.]

16 wrote: my point is that if OpenDebate want to be taken seriously then they should not write stuff that soundslike O.M.G !!! is a sekrit cabal in control the CPD is not a sekrit cabal. is a vehicle that the two main parties use to organise a debate jointly between themselfs for their own candidates is not the only debate forums that candidates participate in is nothing wrong with OpenDebate org wanting to organise a presidential debate using a different format. is all good that they want to The CPD own web site disagrees with you, and at the same time you make the case for OpenDebate's cause. You can't claim to be nonpartisan and at the same time have your own candidates, that's one of the problem with the CPD It my not be the only debate forum the candidates participate in but it's one of the MOST important ones viewed by the most people which is why the CPD was set up to control it. The League of Women voters did a much better job running the debates, back then they were actually debates, now there mostly prepared comments to predetermined questions. There's really not much to debate here the history of The Commission on Presidential Debates is well documented by many sources, any one interested in fair elections no matter what side of the political spectrum they are on should be aware of what the CPD is doing.

16 wrote: if OpenDebate wants to be taken seriously then dont write stuff like "... secretly controlled ..." is nuts to write in this way Would behind closed door sound better to you? Any way point being our election debates are not real debates and are not open to all candidates that should be in them (from all political party's.) http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Commission_on_Presidential_Debates "The commission describes itself as nonpartisan, but it is actually bipartisan: its co-chairmen are Frank Fahrenkopf and Paul Kirk, former chairmen of the Republican and Democratic parties, respectively. Questions concerning third-party participation and debate formats are ultimately resolved behind closed doors among Republican and Democratic negotiators. The commission, posing as an independent sponsor, then enforces these rules, shielding the major-party candidates from public criticism." http://www.annenberg.northwestern.edu/pubs/debate/debate03.htm http://coreyography88.blogspot.com/2009/11/secret-control-of-presidential-debates.html http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/1038593 http://www.debates.org/ http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4052162 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election_debates

Ron Paul is not the only politician with a problem getting fair media coverage, how about just telling the truth about all news. To bad the courts decided that's is ok to fire reporters for telling the truth. The problem is not just the media, it's all so our current debate system for elections ran by the Commission on Presidential Debates. http://www.opendebates.org/theissue/ http://www.opendebates.org/theissue/strengthenmajorparties.html With out fair/truthful media and real debates, elections are just puppet shows. It's too bad that Elektable was just a Ron Paul add and not about the under laying issues.

Statistics show that the chance of your request in the forums being read by a Linden is extremely low. Statistics show that you are now part of a large majority, (merchants who have all ready asked for this.) The best way to request this would be to file a JIRA, but statistics show that the market place has more out standing JIRAs then most other departments in SL combined.

MoiselleErin Teardrop wrote: Maybe Inside Studios has houses you would like. They might not have mesh but do you REALLY need mesh? Mesh is nothing more than the new sculpt. In about a year something else will come along and mesh will be forgotten for the new laggy and expensive "must have". Mesh is not the new sculpt, sculpts were a short cut to getting new building tools before mesh could be implemented in SL, all so well made mesh is less laggy them both prims or sculpts. Mesh isn't new and isn't likely to go away anytime soon it's the industry standard for both high end video games and CGI movies. How ever from a shoppers point of view I don't care if an item is mesh or not as long as it's well made and looks good.

It's been a long time since I last tried to use sketchup for mesh in SL, but would love to be able to do so, if I remember correctly uploading the mesh wasn't the big issue, it was setting faces for individual textures without the mesh object in SL falling apart (each face becomes it's own object.) The other issue I remember was optimizing the poly count for more complex objects. Most people were importing from sketchup to bleder or other programs. Searching the forums and the web I don't see any new post since last year, I all so asked in an inworld sketchup group to see if any one was still trying using sketcheup and go no reply.

Last 3 week for me are all in the top 5 all time werst weeks I have on record. I'm all DD with no inworld shops left, I don't think it has any thing to do with DD vs magic boxes. One thing I have noticed is a shift in customer avatar age, in December it was 75% 3 yrears or older and now it 38% less then one year and 38% over 3 years, the rest evenly in between.

For inworld I use hippo visit, for marketplace manual is the only way I know of. Thought I'd check to see how the numbers had changed since December, in the last 30 days 38% less then one year. 38% over 3 years. The rest evenly spaced out in between. It's good to see some evidence of new people in SL and that they are all so shopping.

Thanks for posting links, I hadn't see that before. I wonder how old mirror reflection lag compares to the water reflections we now.

Here's the best example I know of, but the builder took a break from SL and I don't know if he's returned, so I don't know if it's still set up any place where you could see it inworld, but there is a video in the link. Note this is an effect not a true reflection http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/07/sl-mirror.html

Nefertiti Nefarious wrote: I've been tracking the dreaded FREEBIE transactions versus the transactions for other things since I started selling things in SL, first on SLEX and now on the marketplace. Regardless of the number of freebies I have had listed, the ratio of freebie to $L transactions has been stable at about 1 freebie to every 2 $L transactions. any idea how many freebee slaes lead to a L$ sale or not?

last time I checked which was back in December 75% of all my slaes were from avatars that had been in SL for over 3 years.

as for a cause you could start here for an answer http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Merchants/Marketplace-and-Direct-Delivery-Update/td-p/1462915 there are around 200 other market places issues all so reported

Good suggestion I'll have to try that, I have several list that use the same values but in a diffrent place in the vector so just using the value as a float.z I hope to get rid a a few more list besides just the button name/value list.

Thanks every one for taking time to look at this. I stripped out the rest of the script to isolate the one menu selection that wasn't working to post a full script back here, but I tested it and it works fine by it's self. So it looks like it's a problem with how angle menu is placed in the structure of the rest of the menu, and that gives me a direction look at to fix the script which is what I needed. A better question may have been to ask for advice on how to debug a menu. I did some more debuging and found the issue, I have 2 list for menu botton names list LENGTH_MENU = ["+0.1", "+0.5","+1.0", "+5.0", "+10.0", "-0.1", "-0.5","-1.0", "-5.0", "-10.0"]; list ANGLE_MENU = ["+1.0", "+5.0", "+10.0", "+15.0", "-1.0", "-5.0", "-10.0", "-15.0"]; only values on the ANGLE_MENU that do not appear on the LENGTH_MENU work correctly. I changed the names and it works fine now. The listnever are used int he same functions so seam a bit strange that it would work that way.

The only thing you can do is put in a support ticket. As for meeting with lindens in world you would have better luck looking for the lockness monster or bigfoot in RL. But looking at some of your keywords from your other listing I can see where you are likely to have some problems, in one of your items you have the name of the maker of the hair that your model is wearing as a keyword, in an other you have the name of the model wearing the clothing that is not you, I all so see you using keywords like "promo sale" and "discount" but dint see in the description that the item was on sale.