Shamu077

Thank You Beq. I already have Win10 installed as a dual boot. But it has nothing I need, and I will have to find some new applicatioin software that was never updated to run on Win10, and learn how to use it. I will lose a few weeks of sleep getting it all back in shape on Win10. And because of your 3 version policy, I can always keep Win7 for my old applications that also run with SL until Win7 dies from unnatural causes. I will not miss the SLViewer one iota, I only used it for testing anyway. There will be less fortunate residents who only have a Win7 computer and will not know how to upgrade, and can't afford a new system. But they too have time, thanks to the TPV.s. Do you think LL support will tell them to install Firestorm as a short term solution? If they have never tried a TPV, you and others will be getting new clients, as SL is forcing them off their **** viewer.

Nope. I did that, removed all registry and other files from the SL Viewer - like a clean install, with the uninstaller. I still get the same missing files messages from ANY of the listed SL viewer versions when I try to re-install. Did the latest version delete these essential window DLL's ? They should install any dll files they have modified for their program, not remove them. But they apparently delete them, and not replace if Win 7. I hope LL doesn't find a way to delete the files for Firestorm viewers as well. Added later - The missing files were never in Win7. I checked two recent backups of my entire WIn7 system, on the cloud and a different hard drive, and neither of the files mentioned in my error messages were present in Win7 system or in the SLViewer folders. So the 'SLVersionChecker.exe' is preventing the missing dll files from being loaded at all. An effective way to block all Win7 systems from being used in SL. A public notice that WIn7 is now blocked from all SLViewers versions would have been more professional, imo, perhaps with a week of lead time for those that need to install Win10 or Win11. I doubt I am the only SL resident in the entire world that is still using Win7, which has up until now performed flawlessly, even with the alpha/beta PBR SL viewers. And I am no longer burdened with the Win7 program updates, which often break things until MS fixes it the next update. Finally a stable operating system! Security updates are STILL active in Win7, btw, in case someone thinks Win7 is a security risk. Real time monitoring of all incoming files still protecting the system, in addition to my router firewall port protection.

I tried to install an older version, 6.6.16.582201 - Maintenance-V, which always would install before. It to is now blocked with the same missing files error messages. So basically ALL of the installable versions of the SL Viewer are now blocked from Win 7 users, and not just the two latest versions? I hope Firestorm and other TPV's do not start to block Win 7 from all of their past versions as well. This is what LL has done it seems. I have Win10 installed on a new SSD, but am not looking forward to moving the 1000 or so programs I use in Win7 over. Some will not run in Win10, some need new drivers, and it's about a 1 week hassle to get transfered. Since I can dual boot, I can go to Win7 when necessary. I wll ask Firestorm developers if their next release versions for PBR and non-PBR will also block Win7 from installation. Hopefully the TPVs will not be forced to follow the LL path without any warning.

Yes I am. So all Win7 users will no longer be able to install the SL Viewer? I can try to re install the api-ms-win-core-path-l1-1-0.dll in Win7, since it seems to be the same for Win 7 through Win11. But I guess you are checking the viewer version, and blocking Win7, with no possible fix? Is that correct? Win7 is also blocked on your non GLTF version now. Why? You just wanted to force all Win 7 viewers to upgrade?

The two latest versions of the SL Viewer, the 6.6.16.6566955269 - GHA default release, and the latest PBR "beta" release, 7.0.1.6658224456 - GLTF Material Import. will no longer install on my system. Firestorm still works fine, although I have not installed Firestorm in the last 2 days. I assume these windows files were somehow deleted. Where do I find them? Since no one else has reported this, I figure it's a local problem. Here are the two error messages I get when attempting to install any SL Viewer. I already uninstalled the prior GLTF viewer as suggested. Now neither release version will install.

House is open - poker game (not strip poker), witches table (sit on), and roaming zombie (harmless, has food in his room) inside. Don't bump the pumpkins. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Gardyloo/134/113/23

Northfarthing region has been down and/or not accessible since 21:38 SLT on Jan 6, Monday night. Ticket was filed when sim crashed Monday night, and nothing was done, or done correctly. The Big Map showed another region from the mainland (Northfarthing is a private island sim) as replacing it. But there was no region there and no access, just fake water, as observed from the adjacent region south of it. Then Tuesday mid day the correct private full region was returned and restarted, but the region was closed to any residents, including the owner -The "unable to grant capabilities" message when trying to enter. Live chat told the region owner nothing could be done before the restarts were over at 3pm slt. But support ends at 3pm, so any action on further tickets was ignored. This region houses several main stores for longtime clients, some smaller shops, many rental apts, a Blues club open 24/7 with 12 hrs/day of events, and several role play platforms from medieval to space. 32 hours with no access, and counting...

You might want to try this, copied from Patch Linden's Topic: "Additionally, we have implemented the ability for parcel owners to reset their house controller scripts (the mailbox or life ring for rezzing a different house) should a Resident encounter an issue generating the house selection menu. If you do not receive a house selection menu when you click your House Controller, simply click on and hold the Controller for at least two seconds to reset the scripts. This should correct for most issues of this nature. If the problem persists after attempting this, please contact support."

Time to remind the new residents about setting their security orbs. I was flying over the new houseboats tonight and triggered this one: 'Alyssa_Security_Orb' --Warning-- You have entered a private parcel, please leave now or you will be removed in 2 seconds. Good thing I was in my jet cruising at 30m/sec - just made it through before losing it. I sent her a polite IM with Covenant security orb rules.

This would be the perfect time to announce the 2nd batch of Linden Home houseboats are ready.

Well at least community.secondlife is still up - so don't have to do something useful in RL yet I was logged out with about 6 mins left in my set tonight - but kept streaming just in case. Looks like we all got hit w/ the planned network maintenance.

I was logged off at 19:04 slt, was able to get logged in again about 19:26

Assuming you have turned on Sit/Lay and Walk/Run in the Animation menu, your cat should start to move within 20 mins or less. If you think something is wrong with your free Firestorm cat, just file a support ticket with the cat's ID#, and they will send you a fixed copy to replace it. Callie Cline is the owner and designer for KC, but not a customer support person. She was in an auto accident a few months ago and on her doctor's orders, must remain in bed while she recovers from her injuries. She can only sit at her computer a short time until she heals. This has nothing to do with your possible broken kittycat script. KC is alive and well. There is an active 24/7 discussion group with CSR's usually online. In your case, they would tell you to file a ticket as everyone else does if sending the cat to the cattery and back does not work. "The Christmas decorations are still out." Did you really check the sim? Spring flowers and butterflies everywhere outside, with green grass and spring blooming trees, chirping birds and rabbits. And a few Easter eggs still around. Large Kittycat Easter eggs inside the building too, but Easter Sunday was just 4 days ago. The small pile of snow with a Christmas bulbs outside the front entrance might just indicate the owner of the snow decorations, who is also the CSR manager, is busy handling customer issues. If you file a ticket to Kitten, I bet she will remove the snow piles for you.

Green, where do you get that neat online graph? I just logged in, 13840 residents currently logged in I show

It sound like you took the box contents to inventory which will break the kittybox. You must file a support ticket and Kittycats support will replace it for you. You can register at their website https://kittycats.ws and file a support ticket under the Support tab. You could also go their Main shop inworld, and ask a CSR to help you. The way you get the kitty out of the box is to left click on it after rezzing, get the Kittycats menu, and then click on the Unpack button and wait 10 minutes for your tiny kitten to appear. If you did this and your cat is in pieces inworld after you Unpack, still file a ticket. It's possible the seller repacked the cat and forgot a script.

Founder of the Buzzeri group is Eleri Catlyn with an empty MP store and has no in world store atm - profile says she is moving and be patient. Send her a Notecard, she says. Buzzeri also shows her group and name in the LL Websearch in Firestorm.

Welcome to the world of private sims run my land management companies that care, unlike the LL mainland ghetto. I never shout, and have more trouble with Firestorm putting me in whisper mode - the slow left thumb problem (a comment only you will appreciate.) Unless you are into sailing and want direct LL sea access, why does anyone live on the Mainland? LL are nothing but slum landords, allowing the grossest collection of crap to be erected anywhere, at any elevation, with no themes, ban lines everywhere, and some amaziingly terrible performance sims - again caused by LL's lack of enforcement of the most basic rules.

Yes you killed it, but it's not dead - just lost it's pixels. You need to send a support ticket to KittyCats and include the cat ID#, and you will get your whole kitty box returned to you within 24 hours, usually much less. http://kittycats.biz/index.htm That is the web page - you need to make an account. Then you can hit the Pedigree tab and see your kittenbox that you still own. Copy the ID# from that, and hit Support button - and send a support ticket with the ID# and title it "Lost Cat", or "I Killed My Kitten." All they need is the ID# to get your cat back. This happens to first time owners all the time. ONce you get the box back, rezz it on land, left click to get the Menu, and click UnPack and wait 15 mins for your new kitten. Then read the Manual on the KittyCats site, which answers most of your questions.

DMColz wrote: I know it says on the website So you don’t have to pay for the great services you receive on listen2myradio, your free account is financed by the ads on your page. That means your radio station can only be listened to on the subdomain you have created. However in reality thats not exactly true becuase to listen to the stream, you just encode it in SAMS, and add the server info into SL and BAM... you dont need to open a webpage to hear the music - it is delivered directly to the parcel just the same way any other shoutcast server would. IDK if its a loophole or whatever but this is how i have always used it. And never have any of my guests needed to open a webpage to listen to me DJ. So this is why I'm thinking, why, when we are already ploughing a shedload of cash into land and all the other outgoings would we pay for a stream when you can get it for free? At least in the short term - i think it would be more than adequete for out needs. Long term we may indeed look into paying for a shoutcast server depending on how we grow, or if we grow. What im looking for is for any club owners who have used this technology or tested it, to straight up tell me game changing resons why not to use it. Or to offer any suitable alternatives. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I doubt many (any) SL clubs/users use your workaround - if they are they are simply flying below the radar. From the owners: "You're attempting to use methods to stream your station only available to those with a Premium account, which is why the stream is shutting off. Free accounts cannot use embedded players on their web page or other audio players such as Winamp, iTunes and Quicktime. Please only use your Listen 2 My Radio Player page for your listeners to stream your station. Failure to do so will result in your account being terminated." SL music streaming would be included in those "other audio players". I assume you can stream at 128 kbps and 44,100 Hz Stereo using SAM with your free account, the usual settings for SL music, although the free account does not include unlimited streaming or bandwidth, unlike their expensive premium accounts. You can rent a shoutcast stream in SL for under 500 $L/ month for 25 users and BW up to 320 kbps. That is more than any new club might have as listeners to their radio stream, when there is no DJ present. DJ's always use their own streams at clubs, which they pay for. 500 $L is $2 usd/month, or 25 cents /week to use a legitimate stream - I don't understand the reason to cheat, for 25 cents per week.

Linden Labs has fixed the "Drop bug" and KittyCats has announced it is now safe to Cuddle/Hold/Lay and Walk with your cats again, and use the Drop button to detach them. No information from LL as to just what was causing the new bug (no surprise there). Announced today Jan 4, at 2:32 pm slt in the KittyCatS forum by the owner. Shamu

Tari, I do not see your name mentioned in my post as claiming it was not a problem. I have seen other posts that venture in-world, find a sandbox, rezz and take a few items without any asset server error, and from that vast experiment, come back here and report it is not a problem because it didnt happen to them. And there are those who once had breedables, but now don't, but think their experience of 2-3 years ago is relevant to today's problem. Maybe it is, but the folks who see this problem today are in-world today, and it is an order of magnitude greater problem now. I quoted you about Items detached and disappearing from inventory. That is not the present bug. In this case the items never make it to inventory when first attached to an avatar. You dont have to detach to lose a cat - it is already lost if the Drop button is greyed out, because it is not in inventory, even though the cat is attached to an avatar. And the frequency has not gradually increased either. Drop was a reliable workaround for 2 years. Then it suddenly exploded into a major issue last December. There is a new bug that started causing server asset errors rather suddenly. There have always been Drop bugs related to land permissions - not this issue.

According to KittyCatS, it is affecting other breedables. But Kittycats is now the most popular of the breedables, and the cats have the most attachment interactions of any breedable. Besides the Cuddle/Hold/Lay/Walk interactions, you can ride (like a horse) the MegaPuss, fly around on a broom with the Halloween cats, and go sledding with the Holiday cats. So its no surprise they are now getting most of the problems. This is from the KC announcement in their forum, from the KC owners: **IMPORTANT** Drop Bug Information Hi all. About a month ago it seems there was a new bug introduced in SL. In regards to KittyCatS, this bug appears to be affecting the ability to Drop your cats after interacting with them via the menu, as well as possibly affecting cats that vanish randomly without reason while rezzed on land in SL. Other breedables have been affected by this bug as well. Linden Labs appears to be aware of this bug, however they cannot address it until after the holidays. Unfortunately this bug has caused many problems for our customers that like to Interact with their cats for fun and breeding purposes. To help minimize the loss of cats caused by this bug, we recommend that customers disable the cat's ability to walk and run, and not use the Cuddle/Hold/Lay/Walk interactions with their cats until further notice. We realize that the walking animation and interactions are a large part of the appeal of KittyCatS for many, and we truly apologize for the inconvenience that this latest bug has caused in regards to your ability to enjoy your cats. Please be assured that we are working hard to try and find a solution to this problem, and that we will be in contact with Linden Labs to determine what has caused this issue and how it can be fixed.

Tari, " It's about items being detached and disappearing from inventory altogether. That bug was, supposedly, fixed, in 2010. But the other problem, the losing of no copy items when worn from the ground and then dropped issue, was never resolved." The bug today is when an attached item NEVER appears in inventory when it is attached. If the item does not show in inventory then Drop is greyed out - since there is nothing to rezz back to land from inventory. Of course if you try to Detach the kittycat, it will vanish most of the time - that has always been the case. There are specific warnings never to use Detach for the kittycats. If you log out while the item is still attached, it will be gone when you log in. Either way, if Attaching using one of the menu driven commands does not show in inventory, you will lose the breedable. You must use Drop for the kittycat to rezz back to land. You must also be wearing the land tag for the land or Drop can lose it - but that is another issue entirely, NOT related to this present SL bug. This is ths same problem that all objects are now having when trying to return them to inventory - an error message appears saying the asset server did not respond in time, and the rezzed item remains rezzed. In this case, you just keep trying to Take the object back to inventory. This asset server problem has severely increased in the last month. With breedables that use a menu to attach to avatars, the result is no breedable in inventory, and hence Drop is greyed out. This has nothing to do with increased popularity of breedables meaning more reports. I have been using the Drop command for 2 years every day, sometimes 100 times/day. I have never lost a kittycat up to about mid November, because Drop was greyed out AND the cat was NOT in inventory. Now, if I try to attach, the cat will not move to inventory about 1 in 5 times. It still attaches, but does not exist according to SL, since it is not in inventory and attached. In other words, from no problems using drop many times/day for 2 years, to a problem every 5 cats. That is a huge change - and why Kittycats is now saying do not use any command that will attach to your avatar until SL fixes this new problem. And, people that don't rezz and take objects by the hundreds every day as part of their business may not notice the problem - that doesnt mean it does not exist or is some old infrequesnt bug, as some have suggested. Shamu

"Was not a kittycats customer service rep that said they will get tired of returning was just a group member. KC has been fairly good about it, its just they are not understanding that some of us really enjoy intereacting with teh pets more than trying to make money breeding that exclusive animal that everyone wants..." Tarina, KC fully understands that you enjoy enteracting with your kitties - why would you think otherwise? It is not their fault that the SL asset servers are have gone south, creating 100 times more inventory errors than before November of this year. And never listen to someone's opinion in a group, that does not represent the company. Anyone can post there, and they are often wrong, usually newbies who somehow think they know it all. Here is the official Notice from KittyCats, fyi: **IMPORTANT** Drop Bug Information Hi all. About a month ago it seems there was a new bug introduced in SL. In regards to KittyCatS, this bug appears to be affecting the ability to Drop your cats after interacting with them via the menu, as well as possibly affecting cats that vanish randomly without reason while rezzed on land in SL. Other breedables have been affected by this bug as well. Linden Labs appears to be aware of this bug, however they cannot address it until after the holidays. Unfortunately this bug has caused many problems for our customers that like to Interact with their cats for fun and breeding purposes. To help minimize the loss of cats caused by this bug, we recommend that customers disable the cat's ability to walk and run, and not use the Cuddle/Hold/Lay/Walk interactions with their cats until further notice. We realize that the walking animation and interactions are a large part of the appeal of KittyCatS for many, and we truly apologize for the inconvenience that this latest bug has caused in regards to your ability to enjoy your cats. Please be assured that we are working hard to try and find a solution to this problem, and that we will be in contact with Linden Labs to determine what has caused this issue and how it can be fixed. We know that many of you use the Interactions to help with your breeding programs and that this bug has also interfered with your ability to breed normally. If you MUST Cuddle/Hold your cats to give them the Happiness/Love buff and you are having trouble Dropping your cats because the Drop option is greyed out, please try the following workaround: 1. Pick up the cat you want to cuddle and take it into your inventory. 2. Right click on the cat in your inventory and select "Attach To" and select one of the following: - For Teacups and Toys, attach to the Left or Right Shoulders - For Petite, Normal, and Bigger de Big cats age 7+, attach to the Chest or Right Forearm (If your viewer supports multiple attachments to the same spot then your cats should all attach together) 3. When you are done cuddling, DETACH the cat. DO NOT DROP. This is very important!!! If you attach the cat from inventory like a regular prim object, then you MUST Detach it. Only use Drop if you cuddled/held the cat via its Interaction menu. This should be a viable workaround for the Dropping issue. Your cats may look a little funny attached to your avatar this way and you may get animation script errors, however the cats will still get the Happiness/Love buff, and you should not lose them when detaching. If you do end up losing your cats due to Dropping/Detaching, please go to our support website at http://kittycats.biz/support and file a ticket. If you are not registered on our website, you can do so by clicking the "Online Help" button on your cats' menu, or by using the web terminal in our main store lobby, located to the immediate right as you enter. Please be sure to include your cat's ID# (you can find this on your pedigree page at http://kittycats.biz/pedigree/.) We apologize again for the inconvenience. Thank you for your patience and support. Your KittyCatS Team

"To bring this back on topic: There seems to be a major issue with the asset servers which has been going on for a number of weeks. It seems to affect breedables mainly. For example it is possible to pick them up but when you need to drop them - the drop is greyed out using detach results in the loss of the item. As the items are no copy this is a real issue." As a breeder and seller of breedables, that is what worries me. It has been going on for over a month, which means it is not just a case of the LL employees on a holiday vacation. The asset servers seem to be slow, not responding before the time-out - so what has changed? Many so-called new features - which dont seem to be reducing the load on the servers as was advertised. LL says they hope to fix the asset problem after New Years - I hope their bean counters realize the top revenue producing sims on the grid belong to a few breedable companies.