Liana Halostar

This is a little dated but there are probably others with this question (me, for example) so.... You didn't specify if you need the recipient to receive the message inworld. If that is a requirement, you'll need to use one of the text-based browsers or chat clients, etc. But if you want to send them an emai, which is what they'll get anyhow if they're not online, you can do that. 1. Get their avatar key. You can do this by using a keyfinder script or by checking their profile with Firestorm. 2. Send an email to AvatarKey@secondlife.com, where "AvatarKey" is the actual key. I just tested this by sending an email to myself and I received it moments later.

Thanks Relig. Anything that improves the script is always welcome. Though I'm not sure why the OwnerSay message is delivered along with the LM since there is typically nobody there to hear it. Poor thing must be lonely.

Do these changes have a practical effect? Like reducing script memory? Or is is just a cleaner, more efficient way to write it?

Drake What about scripts? Sounds? Dance animations? There are many things in SL that can't be photographed and are better suited to a generic image. Even clothing, textures, or other items that can be photographed often come in packs so you may use one image for multiple items. Or you may have several images, all of which are applicable to a variety of items. I can go on but I'm sure that after five years in SL you understand that the virtual world offers unique opportunities to those creative enough to exploit them. Unfortunately, LL does not offer those same opportunities on the Marketplace.

A short while back, LL did a survey to inquire about upcoming improvements to the Marketplace. I was very enthusiastic about offering my input. Until I saw the survey. I would like to offer my answers to the survey they didn’t have. The navigation buttons to scroll through the pages of listings are poorly designed and only allow you to advance one page at a time. So if you’re on page four and want page nine out of 13, you have to click, wait, click, wait, click, wait, click, wait, click, wait. This is an annoying waste of time when you have many changes and you have to do it repeatedly. When you bulk edit items on the second or later page of listings, you’re returned to page one after saving. You then have to click, wait, click, wait, etc to get back to your page. Items in Manage Listings follow their own, bizarre set of rules for alphabetizing. You can click the headings to change the sort order and get them in quasi-alphabetical order but never in proper order. This is extremely inefficient and very problematical when editing multiple items. When searching an item in the Manage Listings view and you activate or deactivate it, you’re returned to the full listings view and must search the item again. AND MY TWO LIST TOPPERS.... There is no way to make batch changes to images or the distribution. So if you want to change the images or distribution amount on several hundred items, you must do them all one at a time. It can take several days to do a task that you should be able to do in a few minutes. Nor can you delete multiple items. LL probably considers this a "safety measure" but I consider it a nuisance. The distribution can only be set as a whole percentage, which makes it impossible to make a fair split im many cases. It would make much more sense if the value could be set as a L$ amount (not to mention that it would be much easier for the merchant).

Thanks Ela That's over my head (I have limited ability to modify scripts but not write them) but hopefully others will benefit. For reference, I found the script on the SL Wiki: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Toady_Nakamura/Landmark_Giver_and_Counter. You'd think that anybody publishing a script would have tested it first.

Thanks Rolig. That did the trick

I have the following script that counts how many LMs have been given. The problem is that it always tells me it has given 0 LMs even when I know it has given some out. (And yes, I reset the script.) Any ideas? Or maybe a different script that works? integer gifts = 0; // sets initial value to zero default { on_rez(integer start_param) { llResetScript(); // this resets whenever the prim is brought from inventory } state_entry() { llSetText( "Touch for a Landmark", <1.0, 1.0, 1.0>, 1.0); //sets the hover text "message", color (here white), and intensity (can be zero to 1.0) } touch_start(integer total_number) { if ( llDetectedKey(0) != llGetOwner() )// if the toucher is NOT the owner (!=) { gifts = gifts++; // count up one from previous value llGiveInventory(llDetectedKey(0), llGetInventoryName(INVENTORY_LANDMARK, 0)); } else if ( llDetectedKey(0) == llGetOwner() ) // if the toucher IS the owner (==) { llOwnerSay((string)gifts + " people have gotten landmarks from me!"); } } }

Thanks Zanara. I didn’t understand that at the time but with all the info in this thread, it makes sense now. I can now write the whole process for anybody else who may have the same problem. And thanks again, Amethyst. Calculate Distribution Percentage For Any List Price To Obtain Desired Owner Share PROCEDURE TO CALCULATE DISTRIBUTION PERCENTAGE DOSP / 0.95 = AOSP 100 - AOSP = DP WHERE DOSP is the Desired Store Owner Share (as a percentage) AOSP is the Actual Store Owner Share (as a percentage) DP is the Distribution Percentage EXAMPLE List Price = L$800. Desired share = L$160 (20%) 20 / 0.95 = 21% 100% - 21% = 79% LL PROCEDURE FOR HANDLING DISTRIBUTIONS LP - C = ALP ALP x DP = DS ALP - DS = OS * All fractional values are rounded down (so 43.86 becomes 43, not 44). WHERE LP is the Product List Price C is the 5% LL Commission ALP is the Adjusted List Price (LP less C) DP is the Distribution Percentage DS is the Distribution Share (in L$, given to store owner’s partner) OS is the Store Owner Share (in L$) EXAMPLE LP = 800. DP (calculated above) = 79% 800 - 40 = 760 760 x 0.79 = L$600 760 - 600 = 160

I'm pretty sure I understand how to do this now. At least the numbers I arrive at are matching the results for confirmed sales. But to achieve that, I had to modify your instructions slightly. In your examples, you follow proper rounding procedure. But it looks like LL always rounds down regardless of the fractional value. So 43.89 would become 43, not 44. When I rounded up where appropriate, I got different results than shown on actual sales. Here’s the formula that LL appears to use: (Always round fractional values down.) 1. Subtract the 5% commission from the list price (LP) to get the adjusted list price (ALP). 2. Calculate the distribution at the desired rate to get the distribution share (DS). 3. Subtract the DS from the ALP to get the store owner share (OS). I still can't do the algebra to find a formula that will give me any desired OS for a given LP. But knowing LL's formula and a little trial & error gets me there. Now to apply it and hope I'm right. Thanks for the insights.

OK, actually this doesn't work. Your formula gives me 25% of the amount after the commission. I need 25% of the full sale price. Your example, for example, that uses 389 as the sale price, gives me 93, which is 25% of 95%. But what I would need in that example is 97, which is 25% of 100%. In other words, the person receiving the distribution needs to pay the full %5 commission. Since LL takes an equal portion of the commission from each recipient, I have to figure out how to factor that into the equation. [NOTE: I edited the original post and changed the desired owner share from 25% to 20% but the question is otherwise the same and the formula should be valid for any percentage]

Thanks Amethyst LL was rounding some numbers up when they should have gone down, or down when they should have gone up. And some numbers were getting rounded by more than L$1. I guess it was the double rounding that was causing this and that's what was throwing me since there doesn't seem to be a logical pattern. At any rate, your explanation does help clarify things. I'll apply your formula and see what happens.

When there is a distribution, how does LL determine the commission and final share for the separate recipients? What I’m trying to do is end up with 20% of the sale price after both distribution and commission have been taken. EXAMPLE: Sale Price (fixed value): 400 LL Commission (fixed percentage): 20 Store Owner Share (Must be 20% of sale price): 80 Distribution Share (Whatever is left): 300 EXAMPLE: Sale Price (fixed value): 265 LL Commission (fixed percentage): 13 Store Owner Share (Must be 20% of sale price): 51 Distribution Share (Whatever is left): 201 In other words, how do I set the distribution so that the store owner share is the desired amount? I tried calculating it with a straightforward 5% cut off each share but the numbers don’t add up to the values that LL actually takes. I know I can’t nail it exactly because LL requires the distribution to be a whole percentage (grrr). But what is their formula so I can at least get close to the desired amounts without changing hundreds of items and waiting for them to sell at the wrong distribution?

Thanks Ry0ta In the past when I've tried to submit a support request, the options I've needed (for inworld issues) were unavailable for non-premium members. Good to know the Marketplace is on the good list. I did check (multiple times) that everything was completed. I use Quick Fill to be sure and also do a careful visual check. I've bookmarked that link too. But fortunately I was able to find a workaround... I "updated" the one other item I had listed, replacing it with the one I couldn't get to activate. I used Quick Fill to replace all the info. This successfully moved the desired item into an Active category and moved the replaced item into the Unassociated category. I then tried to associate the replaced item and was able to do so. I had previously been unable to associate any new item so it should be noted that I waited a few days before I tried to add it. So I'm not sure if the root problem had simply resolved itself by then. But that workaround is still a handy trick, provided you have an item you don't mind deactivating (and may not be able to reactivate).

I updated an item but now I can’t get it or any other new items to activate. If I check the radio button when editing the listing I get a confirmation of success. Same thing if I click the ‘Active’ checkmark, except that it stays grayed out. If I use the dropdown to modify the item, I get an error that “the specified product could not be listed.” That’s the only way I can actually get an error, albeit not a very helpful one. I’ve gone through numerous attempts. I tried unlisting and then deleting the item, then logging out, clearing browser cache & cookies, then uploading the item again. It still won’t activate. I saw another post with an identical problem but the only solution offered was to file a ticket. But I am not a premium member so LL won’t acknowledge my existence. So if anybody has any constructive suggestions, they’d be much appreciated. Otherwise it seems I’m out of the market.