Voff Uggla

Thank you so much Natales, very useful information. I think it was in one of your's post's I read about cache cleaning in the first place, and I've been wondering about it ever since. And thanks for the Firestorm Q&A url.

Thank you so much for the answer, Jean :-)

I've read in another topic, that cache should almost never be cleared now, only as a last resort if there's any problems. As compared to several years ago, it was suggested to clear cache almost everyday. So now I want to go to the bottom of this. First of all, in the Graphics Tab -> Hardware - 'Viewer Texture Memory Buffer', the maximum is set to 512 MB. My question is, if that folder on my computer exceeds 512 MB, shouldn't I clear the cache then? I mean if I have more MB than the maximum, it must mean the texture folder is full and need to be cleaned...?! Same question about 'Total Cache Size', there is a maximum of MB there as well. Common sense tells me that's maybe it's time to clear cache if that folder exceeds the limit of MB set in the viewer. Common sense is not the same as being a programmer/computer tech specialist, so please can anyone explain, how the cache works and when to clear it.

I've read in another topic, that cache should almost never be cleared now, only as a last resort if there's any problems. As compared to several years ago, it was suggested to clear cache almost everyday. So now I want to go to the bottom of this. First of all, in the Graphics Tab -> Hardware - 'Viewer Texture Memory Buffer', the maximum is set to 512 MB. My question is, if that folder on my computer exceeds 512 MB, shouldn't I clear the cache then? I mean if I have more MB than the maximum, it must mean the texture folder is full and need to be cleaned...?! Same question about 'Total Cache Size', there is a maximum of MB there as well. Common sense tells me that's maybe it's time to clear cache if that folder exceeds the limit of MB set in the viewer. Common sense is not the same as being a programmer/computer tech specialist, so please can anyone explain, how the cache works and when to clear it.

Well I didn't buy a "plug n play" computer. I picked out every part myself from an online computer store. Mainboard, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, Tower, etc. They put it together and sent it to my home and that was only 3 years ago and quite expensive. Sorry but I can't afford to buy a new computer every 3 years so that I can keep up with the "improvements" Linden Lab keeps introducing. My reply was meant more as agreemnet with you and dealing with Orca's whale of a 4Gig commnet. That one was a whopper. Ops, sorry. My native langauge is Swedish, somtimes I missunderstand the american/english expressions. For an example: "That one was a whopper.", I've no idea what that really means. By the way, this past week, I've used both the LL viewer and Firestorm and noticed that the memory usage is much lower now. But my GPU/Video Card have gotten a much heavier load, temp upto 80*C and fan running at 100% at it's worst. "Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 9.18.0013.2049 OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 and 1 GB RAM." GPU's are so much more expensive than RAM... :-/

Perrie Juran wrote: Voff Uggla wrote: Orca Flotta wrote: 4 GB RAM isn't enough to run any of the viewers now, you need to upgrade it (if you can afford it). Sorry, that is bull. When I look at my specs I only use a very small percentage of the availabe RAM. You seem to have some leakage in your system, maybe the OS or a bad viewer. Maybe "bull" for you, looking further up in this topic, reading you're recommending Linux as the OS to use, I guess that's the OS you're using. Maybe Linux handle all the processes better than Windows, I don't know. I have Windows 7 installed, I don't have any leakage in my system and I use the 'Second Life 3.6.3 (279564) Viewer'. By the way I'm pretty sure that most of the residents are either using Windows or Mac and only a small percentage are using Linux. I am NOT going through the hassle to uninstall Windows and install Linux instead just so that I can be in SL and I'm pretty sure that's not an option for others as well. People come to SL to have fun, many of them aren't "tech geeks", they just want a viewer that works, not to reinstall their whole system. I will upgrade my RAM/Memory when I can afford it. I run SL on my Lap Top with Win 7 Home Premium and 4 Gigs of Ram with no problem. Maybe if I increased my RAM I could eek out a little more performance. My only bottleneck is the old Nvidia GeForce 8400M card in it. My FPS will drop too much if I try to run on high or ultra. But you are right, most people just want to plug and play. Sadly, many have been duped by the computer manufacturers who can call anything that they build "A Gaming Machine." If there is anyone to blame it is them. My Mother used to call liver tasty. Yes it was tasty. Like dog poo. The computer manufacturers are no different. Well I didn't buy a "plug n play" computer. I picked out every part myself from an online computer store. Mainboard, CPU, GPU, PSU, RAM, Tower, etc. They put it together and sent it to my home and that was only 3 years ago and quite expensive. Sorry but I can't afford to buy a new computer every 3 years so that I can keep up with the "improvements" Linden Lab keeps introducing.

Orca Flotta wrote: 4 GB RAM isn't enough to run any of the viewers now, you need to upgrade it (if you can afford it). Sorry, that is bull. When I look at my specs I only use a very small percentage of the availabe RAM. You seem to have some leakage in your system, maybe the OS or a bad viewer. Maybe "bull" for you, looking further up in this topic, reading you're recommending Linux as the OS to use, I guess that's the OS you're using. Maybe Linux handle all the processes better than Windows, I don't know. I have Windows 7 installed, I don't have any leakage in my system and I use the 'Second Life 3.6.3 (279564) Viewer'. By the way I'm pretty sure that most of the residents are either using Windows or Mac and only a small percentage are using Linux. I am NOT going through the hassle to uninstall Windows and install Linux instead just so that I can be in SL and I'm pretty sure that's not an option for others as well. People come to SL to have fun, many of them aren't "tech geeks", they just want a viewer that works, not to reinstall their whole system. I will upgrade my RAM/Memory when I can afford it.

KralDaemon wrote: I've been having no issues with my SL for ages, Stable FPS, Low Lag but then recently i've been getting BSOD crashes with the error: MEMORY_MANAGER in it. I've tried deleting and even increasing the cache, lowered the Graphic quality to "Low" and increasing the Memory of the game to 2Gb but I still get the same BSOD issues. The weird thing is before it hits me I always get a Silent DC which is even more frustrating. My PC Specs (While not great) are: Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.40GHz 4.00 GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 Any help would be great! KralDaemon 4 GB RAM isn't enough to run any of the viewers now, you need to upgrade it (if you can afford it). I have 4 GB RAM in my computer and for a month I've been monitoring the memory usage as well as my video card, with Nvidia Inspector. For a month I was using the 'Projects Materials Viewer' and memory usage varied depending on how many avs there were on a sim. It also depends on how many programs and processes that's running on your computer. I have been closing the ones that weren't necessary, so with the necessary Windows processes running and Firefox running, my memory usage has been up to around 80% as highest. That's a lot and makes my computer sluggish, but I haven't had any BSOD's. Yesterday, I installed Firestorm and Singularity just to compare and noticed that it didn't use as much RAM as the "PM Viewer", but my video card was affected instead, temperature arond 80'C and the fan running at 100%. So those 2 viewers are not an option for me, I mean RAM/Memory is so much cheaper to buy than a new video card. Also yesterday, there were 2 mandatory updates when I logged in with the "PM Viewer", when logging in after the second one I noticed I was on the official 'Second Life 3.6.3 (279564)'...?! The temperature and fan on my GPU/Video Card went down to "normal", but memory will still be an issue. I didn't have time to check it out in a "crowded" (30+ avs) place, but I'm sure it will use a lot of memory. So I definetly need to uprade the RAM, but I can't afford it now, maybe after Christmas. Later. So I have increased the virtual memory (Win 7), standard was 4063 MB, the automatic box was checked. Now I changed it to 'Own Size' and max size to 6093 MB. I'm logged in at Beachwood atm, there are 25-28 avs here. I have Firefox open and using the 'Second Life 3.6.3 (279564) Viewer'. Memory stays below 70% and GPU/Video Card, temp: 55*C, Fan: 45 % and GPU Load: 37 %. FPS around 64 and Ping Sim around 200 msec, no packet loss. It seems as by increasing the virtual memory does help a bit. But for an optimal experience, more memory is needed.

Voff Uggla wrote: I'm testing the "Second Life Project Materials/3.6.3.279651" since July 21. There have been 2 mandatory updates, I have had no problems with the viewer until after the second update. I use flexi hair and the alpha blending is totally messed up after the latest update, the flexi hair looks awful. And not only my hair, all avatars wearing flexi hair. Okay, I reported it on the Materials Project Viewer Bugs Sorry it's not a reply to Coby, didn't realise that I have to go back to the first post, to reply. Edit # 3: Ops, now I've noticed that there are 'Reply buttons' both on the top left and bottom left :manembarrassed: Quoting myself: There was a third mandatory update to the Project Materials Viewer, a few days ago. That fixed the issues I had.

SSB/A will be rolled out on the main channel today. *Crossing my fingers* http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Featured-News/Project-Sunshine-Goes-Grid-Wide/ba-p/2148427

Exciting, SSB/A rolled out on the main channel, can't wait to try it out.

Dresden Ceriano wrote: Ren Toxx wrote: BloodyKitty230 wrote: [...] I hope it comes my way soon if it hasn't already [...] In a way, it probably has. The currently most known and discussed feature of the whole Project Sunshine is the new Server-Side Baking / Appearance (SSB/A) and, as Perrie indicated, is already active in some regions, those running certain Release Candidate versions of the server software; if you're curious, go to menu 'World' > 'About Region' third tab, and if you see there either 'Magnum' or 'Le Tigre', then you're in a SSB/A active region... you'll also notice your whole base avatar briefly turning grey when you arrive but (hopefully) loading quite faster than in non-SSB/A regions. It is expected than in a few weeks SSB/A will be active in all regions (grid-wide). Other parts of Project Sunshine will be rolled over consecutively, as Linden Labs tests and asserts their readiness. Actually, SSA is only on Magnum regions at the moment. ...Dres What?! Le Tigre was the first one that got SSB implemented and after that did the Magnum regions get it. Have they "removed" SSB on the Le Tigre regions recently? Edit: "Release Notes/Second Life RC LeTigre/13 13.08.12.279749 LeTigre is on a new server maintenance project. Scheduled 2013-08-14 for RC LeTigre It only includes a few internal bug fixes which shouldn't show any visible changes to the residents. 13.07.26.279129 This is the server side appearance project Scheduled 2013-07-31 for RC LeTigre and RC Magnum New Features Enabled server side appearance." http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/13#13.08.12.279749

I'm testing the "Second Life Project Materials/3.6.3.279651" since July 21. There have been 2 mandatory updates, I have had no problems with the viewer until after the second update. I use flexi hair and the alpha blending is totally messed up after the latest update, the flexi hair looks awful. And not only my hair, all avatars wearing flexi hair. Okay, I reported it on the Materials Project Viewer Bugs Sorry it's not a reply to Coby, didn't realise that I have to go back to the first post, to reply. Edit # 3: Ops, now I've noticed that there are 'Reply buttons' both on the top left and bottom left :manembarrassed:

When I logged into the forums, which I usually don't do. I noticed that the topic was a sticky, which made me wonder why and therefore I made the post you're referring to. Later on I discovered that I was subscribibg to the topic, so I deleted it and the post didn't appear as sticky to me. And please don't waste your "smartass" energy to comment my typos :matte-motes-yawn:

When I logged into the forums, which I usually don't do. I noticed that the topic was a sticky, which made me wonder why and therefore I made the post you're referring to. Later on I discovered that I was subscribibg to the topic, so I deleted it and the post didn't appear as sticky to me. And please don't waste your "smartass" energy to comment my typos :matte-motes-yawn: