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I'm not trolling.  I simply have a hard time believing what I am reading here.  

In the end, I don't really care. Well not enough to continue. 

I got what I needed.  I now understand better what the "acceptable" levels of discrimination is here in SL.

I did not understand this at the beginning.  I now have a much different, and better understand of the topic now.

 

This was my first, and likely last post this forum.  

Thank you all.

 

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Just now, Solar Legion said:

It is almost like the OP does not understand the concepts they are pretending to rail against ....

I mean, having a space in Second Life set aside for a normally marginalized demographic is not some big problem. Not for anyone who understands that actual discrimination goes the other way around for the most part.

The creation of a Safe Space (of any sort) is not a bad thing.

Grow up, deal with it.

I never mentioned who or what my original complaint was about.

Its just the concept in general.

I'll put you down as a supporter...

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2 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

for complaints about the TOS and Guidelines:

Not sure what to do with this.  

This sounds like one of those, "If you don't like, it, take up it up with these guys" sort of responses.

Which makes me believe that you support the status quo.

Which (as I've come to understand) tolerates this level of discrimination.

 

So, can I put you down as a supporter of SL discrimination?  I mean, is that the message here?

Help me (us?) all understand this..

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3 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

But hey, maybe I missed the responses where someone supported a White, Cis, Male, Perfectly Functional (insert other limiters here that follow the same pattern) only parcel/region. Perhaps you'd like to share that instance?

 

Interesting choice of example demographics. Perhaps we all have our prejudices?

I dunno.   

All I can say was that in all my years of SL,  I never expected to find this much; indifference, tolerance, acceptance, justification, I dunno, call it what you will..  of discrimination.

(to be clear, this is not the banning of an individual, this is the banning of a CLASS)   

Again, I'm somewhat stunned.

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"No one has shown any support whatsoever for the sort of banning you have described. No one. At all."

Not gonna sit down.  Thanks though for the offer though.

If you read through the posts here, people have supported this.  

And in fact, some have gone so far as to say its needed.

So,  I get your point.  Differentiating between allowed, and supported. 

My point here is that this behavior seems to be allowed overall, tolerated by many, and supported by some.

And frankly that surprises me.  That's all.

Thanks again for the offer of a seat.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 9/24/2020 at 6:38 AM, Caroline Takeda said:

A private estate is just that: A private estate. It is your virtual world within a virtual world. Your money, your rules. Your the Gouvernor so to speak. Period. End of Story.

yes, except the TOS still applies in all cases.  So, its not really the "End of Story".  

I understand that land owners can ban whomever they want.  For any reason. Or  for no reason.  That I get.

But to ban an entire class of people, like all women, or all black, or all gay people, just because you don't like that class.. 

I was just a bit surprised how much support there is for this.  

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2 hours ago, Lewis Luminos said:

I think the real thing that the OP has got wrong is the definition of "public".

I get that.  

But what I meant was 'public' in the sense that its a market, or a bar, or someplace that is open to the general public. 

I fully understand that SIMS are owned privately or in groups.

 

And no, I'm not trolling. you will all notice I've never posted to this forum before. This forum is not my thing.

Was an honest question. 

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23 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

 Our most common banning by businesses says:  No shirt, No shoes...No service.  

Those ban anyone that makes the decision to dress this way or that. I get that.   That bans a behavior.

My issue lately is with the acceptable levels of racism, bigotry and sexism in SL that describe a blanket ban of anyone that is gay/straight, or male/woman, or black/white.

What I'm hearing is that this is OK here in SL.

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Just now, Syo Emerald said:

How so?

I mean, would you demand acess to everybodies land? Because that is basically what you are asking for.

No, I am asking that one's race, gender, or orientation not be the sole reason for being banned. 
I mean, I get that anyone can be an ass, and we should be able to ban them, but solely on race, gender, or orientation?  Seems odd  that this is allowed. 

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1 minute ago, Alwin Alcott said:

if you ask a question, there is a chance you get a answer you don't like.
 

Its not a matter of like/dislike.

I'm just a bit taken aback. 

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1 minute ago, Syo Emerald said:

Listen: There is no differentiation made in SL on how a land owner decides to use their space. You pay the bill, you decide how the land is used and who is allowed to visit you. You can build a giant pool and invite the entire grid to a pool party today and close your sim off for anyone the next day. Nobody can demand that you open your private place to anyone. If you are so generous and open your place to the public and establish something for others to enjoy, you are not suddenly burdend by additional, new rules by the TOS.

You asked, we answered, based on the TOS. You don't like the answer? Well... thats up to you. People are not entitled to haveing acess to privately owned land and I'm saying that as someone who would need to change her avatar to visit more places.

You certainly did answer.  

And I'm a bit shocked and stunned. 

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I have a question about acceptable forms of discrimination that might be allowed here in SL.

Are we allowed to ban avatars from a sim, based on sexual orientation, race, age, or gender?

In other words, in an otherwise public sim, can I ban all gay? or all trans people, or all women,  solely based on their orientation, or gender?

The question is this:  Is this behavior allowed, and if not where is that stated?

-Dillin