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You are correct in the statement of it not being full perms if not all components are in fact full perms...however, if the listing is selling the hud to you, but not the scripts to you, then it is a grey area. There is also the, are you an actual scripter ? if you are a scripter then you do not need someone else's scripts to use in your products, if you are not a scripter what is it that you need the scripts to be mod for, is it so that you can replicate and then pretend that you are the scripter? do you want to take credit for the script but not for the mesh/prims. Unlike the mesh and prims portion you cannot erase the creator, you can add a prim and by the basic of edit you can be seen as the creator, but anyone worth their salt can inspect and see that to not be the case anyway. Once a script is mod it is something you can steal, and by steal I mean copy paste to a new script created by you, then create your own mesh base and go on to sell it again full perms, the only protection that the creator has in you keeping to their TOS is that the script remains no mod. It being no mod does not mean you cannot set up another script in the item to remove the script if you want to give customers that option. Scripters are already absolutely taken for granted in content creation in SL, you can see people throwing other peoples scripts around for free without a care in the world almost daily, when that was not the intended purpose of the script to begin with, the only saving grace again on these is by them being no mod they still refer back to the creator. There is absolutely no reason at all for you to need a script to be mod other than a name change, and for that you could IM the creator of the script and ask if they would consider that as an option, but you would want to be willing to pay for it. Which brings us back to the start, the price you are paying for a 'system' that you cannot make yourself to be used in your own content, is a drop in the ocean of what you should/would need to pay a scripter to make something uniquely yours, with proper open to edit modify scripts involved.

I don't like reading light on black, best to always make something possible to read in both modes, your choice though, just letting you know.

I had to go look, I am very happy to say I have neither been confused by, or confused anyone else so far. The sad ones make me sad, because I am not sure what or why. I know that my own would have been genuine sorrow though. I only just realised a moment ago the cup means thanks, when I went to give it as a prize like "Good job, Yay you" but it doesn't mean that. https://gyazo.com/4d4d548c5f310e6a0107f10b5c07420a

I am not sure what happened to your post, but it is impossible to read without highlighting it, because it is grey on cream on white, you may want to edit the original post to be just plain text.

Ah so like when people selling full perms but only 20 sets they do limited quantity until gone, makes sense. That is true, there was that event that you chose to redeem or swap that did that. Not a fan personally because sometimes I might pass something to an alt to use if taking a group pic etc, gachas are handy for that.

Not really sure where in my post I blamed anyone for being thrifty, if that is how you took it it was not my intent at all. Do not have a whole foods here but of course I look for deals when buying groceries, I buy online and 99% of the time I only shop from the specials section of the website, because it is awesome, we do not have coupons in my country. The person before me commented that people need to remember that in some countries they have this and that, and I was also stating that that concern, those issues are on both sides, it is not a customer only dealing with lower income, lower currency etc, but again as a customer we have a choice, in SL anyway, no one is forcing us to shop, I personally have enough inventory to not wear the same thing twice for around five years at least. Again not blaming anyone for being on a budget, the fact that we can get a shopping thrill in SL for a fraction of the cost for the same high in RL is another thing SL is awesome for, but that budget is personal, you cannot just say everyone has to sell for less because of it, the sales days started out as a little boost, now there are at least half a dozen on the weekend alone, the lists are so long that there is no way anyone even close to being on a budget can even consider the whole list, even without a monetary restrictions by the time you get to the bottom even at 50-100L a hit you are looking at thousands of lindens spent, so the stores on the bottom are essentially paying to be on a list that many can not even get to them on, and if they can buy every item, when do they use it, wear it or enjoy it? As far as supporting creators I have gone above and beyond in that for many many years, I have purchased items just because they have done such a creative job on them not because I want them, I have purchased just to bring attention to stores and many other reasons...I said a lot of things before I said what you quoted, but again not my intention to have anyone think I do not appreciate a bargain, or begrudge anyone for finding one.

@MariahMaximilliana I am confused by this post, because if the item is a gacha item, why would the item still be listed once you have sold the item? how can they leave a review, I would think once you sold it, it would go away? The only suggestion I would make is that you unbox all your items for selling, and then submit them including the box in the folder for marketplace, then list the item so that the contents tab shows all the items that are included - to be double protected you could even screenshot your contents and include that as a second picture for the item, that way if someone does try that rubbish it is clear the contents were in the listing.

@KennyChidorie you wrote so many things it was hard to keep straight and definitely hard to quote. I am late in replying to this but here goes anyway. Marketplace already tells people if they have already purchased something, and how many times and on what dates, this is helpful and amusing because when you gift something over and over you look silly with so many things listed telling you you already bought it. You cannot make people read anything in Second Life, you can build fires around it, you can make it flash neon warnings, you can even tell them it costs more here and not there, but they will still go ahead and do what they want. People wanting to buy things not made for a particular body is on them, it is their choice, but you are also not factoring in that some people may know in advance that later in the week they are going to buy said body, but are going to grab the bits and pieces they need for it in advance, so imagine your shock and horror to go to buy said skin, boots, dress only to be rejected by the store because they have told you you cannot have because you do not already own the other item...that would be a very big mistake on the part of the seller, because the indignation felt would cause an all consuming rage fest and I can only shudder at the thought of the amount of venom that would spew forth from such a customer slight - honestly most of what you have said shows that you are lucky enough to have never experienced such things. I also buy things that are not made for any bodies, are still standard sizing because alphas and bom layers have made that possible, and exciting. So again try telling me I cannot have, and I would be very annoyed. I however do not do the venom thing. Your skins are meant to be protected, yes, very much so, but IMing someone that stole them from you is naive, it used to work when people were more aware of how many eyes would be upon them, but now not so much. It is your responsibility to file a DMCA and if LL do not act on that, then you keep on them about it, because it is meant to be actioned on. But the protection plan you want to implement is not going to make a lick of difference, because my personal experience with true copybotting is they rarely buy the item and then copy it, they copybot entire avatars and then pull them apart, and with some options that are the basic normal now, that may actually be easier to do. All of the copy bot protection devices that people have used in the past did nothing but make customers very angry, you are accusing all because of some, and people do not like that. Banning someone from buying from your store is one thing, banning from your region, not allowing them to buy from your system etc, those are all things you can do, but again you are rarely going to know the thief account, especially with skins and texture layers. Again syncing up to accounts by saying you cannot have this because you do not own that is a privacy issue, it is in no way your business if I have one head or 75, it is also none of your business if I want to strut around my home in privacy wearing whatever I want to wear. Lastly, you are not taking into account gifting, because whether the person has it that day or knows they are getting it on the weekend as a present, it is not your business, and all it would do is disappoint and make customers very upset. If all the theft you have experienced means you no longer make any sales I am sorry that is happening, but if you still sell your items, and you have filed dmcas then that is the best you can do, and regardless of what LL can and cannot do in terms of reviews, sometimes they come down in a day sometimes it can take weeks, because none of us are the only one asking for assistance in SL at any particular time and everything takes time, but you can comment on reviews, you can explain the situation clearly and politely, and then it is up to other customers to see and take notice.

How does the browser know what I am wearing in world if I am not logged in, and would I be able to see the complexity of said items when trying them on because in world when i try on a demo and my complexity goes from 18k to 148K I drop it like it's hot, the demo that is. not being able to try it on with other clothing my AO of the moment ( I have a serious AO addiction ) and will it know my feet heights for different styles, this all seems like voodoo magic ( i am teasing Blue Mars had similar ). I like the idea, it would be interesting to be able to try on various demos and if it is in browser would that mean no demo nonsense is needed, so you could actually see your trial item without DEMO pasted all over your face, or parts of your face obscured by prims when trying to buy hair ? I positively support protection of work, just sometimes I cannot even see me with the demo on, and that is the point of shopping to look super fabulous. The DEMO part could be the background, and of course I would want a mirror ball and some comfortable seating for in between trying on 423 hairstyles, that stuff gets exhausting.

Some vending systems have this feature, and if your marketplace sales also go to your vendor system then it should be all available, it can say by item as well, there are also by item functions in your marketplace, if you want to just do a quick scan of what sells most, how many of an item you have sold, what it has as far as demo vs sales retention etc. Marketplace has a whole lot of features under the hood.

That also goes the same way for the cost of being a creator, some people work in SL because RL work is not available to them, that in itself is an amazing thing, but with some countries paying VAT and some losing a lot with currency conversion and the cost of tier, and just SL existing is a lot. While for people buying it is a luxury, a choice, you can not buy that 112th pair of red mary janes (i am teasing myself here) or you can, but those that are relying on this platform for their bills in RL the idea that things have dropped so dramatically in price over the years is a gain only for the consumer not the creator. They are doing ten times the work with all the bodies and options expected, while tier has gone down over the years the fees have gone up, not only for converting funds and cashing out, but even to participate in the 4 plus events stores are participating in monthly. Then there is the dilution of items, putting this item in this event vs putting this item in this other event, would swapping them around create more sales, and forever feeling that not being in them at all is causing sales in stores to die off. Again consumers have a choice, creators are feeling less like they have any but to follow the herd and the herds are following in a circle.

yes, I went from spending weekly 5K ++++ a week (or lets be honest sometimes just in one tp) to spending less than 300L and some weeks not buying anything at all. This happened years ago when a one day a week sales day decreased the value of items, so that people started to steer clear of wearing some stores items because they suddenly became 'cheap', so that went away for a long time, then those days returned times 20. However, this post alone amuses me greatly when mention of the cost of items not on sale. Those 1200L or less fatpacks that people are mentioning, or 300L for an item etc is for many of us oldbies a discount already. We came from 450 slip dresses that were texture system layers, to 3K gowns in one colour and 2500L shoes in one colour and 10K fatpacks of skins to what we have now. People used to save up to buy a skin and wear that one skin with its options for years, and now you can tp around buy a skin and before you even unpack it you have bought another skin. When designers released it was not weekly, we would wait almost full seasons to see a release from anyone, hair stores would often be weeks or even months to release a new style, and people would camp waiting for the unveiling. There were collections from clothing stores, shows were put on to launch them and it could take you months to buy each piece, because it would be valued correctly. The weekly sales are not really the culprits it is the constant releases, every other minute something is released, people are spending less time in the items they buy than the time buying them and the jumping around the grid to collect them all is the new 'doing something' in world. Stores are not able to rely on the ongoing purchases of an item any longer, it used to be that you could release on a weekday, sell so many pieces, then it would trickle down over the next week or so, then become a few a day kind of thing for years. Now its a release an item hope you didn't just send a notice at the same time as 128 other stores and get what you can because tomorrow there will be 418 new releases from other stores, so what you posted on yesterday is already old news and that sucks, because no matter what people create, what they put those 20+ hours into it deserves more than 15 minutes of attention. Customers used to be excited to own something they put value in, they would save their stipend until they could afford it, they would be glowing when they purchased it, and they would IM creators and/or their staff (this is how I know) and be giddy with excitement and joy. Then you had the customers that would go out of their way to find the most expensive items so that they could hold it over their friends knowing they didn't have that same budget, those conversations were hilarious, because many really bought into the price tags being high in SL meant some kind of fake fortune. In the past when an annual kind of sale would happen it would be a great money maker for the seller, and an absolute lovefest for the customers, especially those that may have only bought one or two colours of everything ever sold in the past, they could upgrade to the fatpacks etc. For the fatpackers it would be a try and find what people did not already have moment, but begrudging a sale is not usually a thing in annuals because we usually know that they are going to happen. It is buy it at full in May or wait until July sales or Christmas Sales etc. I am rambling sorry, I think about this a lot but yes as jeans were mentioned earlier, if you have 500L in your hands, and someone releases a dress that is like many dresses you have, or pants or shorts etc, then it becomes 350L on one colour of that one thing, or 10 things in various colours from ten stores and a day out.

Eyebrows are just textures you create in PS or Gimp as an alpha layer, you would need to line them up with whatever UV your current mesh or SL default head uses, SL default or any head that uses the SL default, you can find the SL UVs online just search on Google, if the head you use uses a different UV you may be able to get them from the store as a developer kit. When you find out where to paint the brows you can go ahead and make the design and then save it as a PNG and bring it in world and create a tattoo layer and wear it and you should see the brows on your face. If you are not using a bakes on mesh head, you would need to make an applier for them to appear. You have three options for brows, you can hand draw them, buy a brush set for brows that others have made available and apply them and tweak as needed, or use photosourced resources but be sure to check that the images you may use are free to use, and that you are not using protected images.

If they have to get lost somewhere I haven't had any failed or time out, sometimes maybe a 5 minute wait, but my experiences have just been offline for now more than any time in history, it is kind of like being told ' you have enough inventory, you are in a time out '.

In the past year MP going down has been a somewhat more occurring issue than I have seen in the past decade plus, it is unfortunate, but the stores themselves are still available, so at least there is that. By it going down more, I have still only seen it go down probably half a dozen times, I do understand the shock of it though, it is really kind of WOAH! I do wish we got the banging gorillas when something like that happens, if it is LL and they are working on fixing it, vs not knowing if we are under attack

I am watching The Dead Zone (Re-watching) because I watched The Class and it starred Anthony Michael Hall, so then I needed more because I love him, and now I am starting a 6 season series from the beginning. I watched the first season of La Brea yesterday as well, so I am full of tv goodness.

I used to do that years ago, take people to ETD, Gurl 6 and anywhere that did free for new people stuff, then friends would log in and it would end up a movie montage makeover party. I was sitting down doing some work outdoors years later and a girl came up to me and thanked me for her first day, never been so happy to have been a part of that for someone.

Transfer boxes with No Transfer items inside used to be how many sold items in the olden days so that they could be gifted, but you would have customers buying the items, dragging to floor to 'have a look' and then freaking out because they couldn't then gift it and demanding another. It was also used for customer service before we had vendor systems and redelivery, but some places with their Managers. I had at least two stores of content in my inventory done this way, but I would change the perms before passing it to the customer, so it was just sent to me copy and transfer, and then id change it to no transfer, but the item inside were no transfer. SL perms are a minefield, but I would say that this creator is not wanting you to sell on the items, but to Gacha the way it was meant to be, if you get something you did not want, you traded it or gave it to a friend, did not make money off of it, which was a lot of the big drama with Gacha's earlier on when people realised that resellers were making more money than the creators were in some cases.

I want an SL tickertape along the top of my screen doo ddop dooo ddddooooo this just in " Linden Lab has joined Red Bull in making Residents energy needs easier in both lives...premium plus now includes a 4 pack of Red Bull each month delivered to your door" click https://secondlife.com/premium for more details.

I might get two IM's a year from unknown to me people if I am out and about...it is usually a compliment in some manner that suggests a pick up line perhaps (not sure as I am partnered in my profile) so when they say I look good, whether Male or Female I reply with a "you can look like this too' with a list of what I have on, what body I am wearing and so on...that usually ends it. My friend Whimsy gets very annoyed that people do not IM her lol but she has decided that it is because she is too good looking and it scares people. Which is I guess possible in SL as much as RL can be. It does kind of make me wonder if people do hit on people that have less going on, sort of like the good old - ' What do you mean you do not have Xcite' TPs you to a store and loads you up expecting an outcome in their favour. - I wonder if that is still the case with add ons now? I wonder if there are people that sit at the new hubs and drag new residents off to get sexified. I remember back in the olden days helping a girl that was so distressed because she had been 'collared' her first day and did not know what to do now that she realised it was not something she wanted. People were definitely more into approaching anyone and everyone years back, more so than now. A lot of friendships were started at camping spots, lucky chairs, fishing sites etc. We seem to have lost a lot of that over the years.

Mine is low but Excellent, so I am good with that, seeing as I just mosey on in every other year for a few days and out again. I did like checking other peoples and seeing they 'won the day on' that was kind of neat, especially as it seems less a popularity contest and just like mindedness of other residents.

They could create a town square vibe without it being commercial...Aurelia's region for instance is a town square look with shops all around the small park area, and even though they are all 'stores' they do not sell anything, they have just been decorated to look like stores. There are so many items that have been created over the years to be store props that this would be completely manageable, and not be Moles needing to create the content. It could even be done in a way like the Art installation regions were, you could put in an application to be given a store submit your theme idea and if you were awarded one of the stores, you decorate it with a prim limit and it becomes part of the community for a year ? then it gets wiped and new people have their chance, again no different than say the setting up of space at the SLB etc. But nothing is sold. Each space could even have a theme, some could be seasonal, some could be fantasy etc. Could even be something people travel to and perhaps even judge on best display just for fun. This would be amazing around holidays, a Winter Wonderland, a Haunted theme, and so on. People could even create teams to decorate their 'store' display etc. People could get really involved as a whole community, and if it does not produce the outcome that LL is happy with, they remove it and we tried and we try something else in the future.

I think that the main hurt to commerce with Belli would be no one needs to buy the builds... so those that sold houses and skyboxes etc catering to the first home market would have perhaps seen a drop in sales. However those selling home decor etc definitely took a huge upward move. Many that were already premium and never used their free land allotment because the previous Linden Homes were not fun, just had that tier unused, so now they use it and many became premium once they found out that they could have a nice home, prim allowance not being taken up by the build and live in brand new communities full of active accounts was just too good to pass up. Marketplace is a funny comment, I have seen a few and people seem to have selective memory on those times. For a start none of the big name stores of the times even listed their items at all, we were not xstreet purchasers anywhere close to the volume done now, I would probably shop on xstreet once a month if at all, because I would often find an item on its pages then go to the store to see what else they had because store owners were horrible at keeping up to date. OnRez was the platform that changed a lot of it, because they had so many nicer functions (one of which was Manager role) because of that I listed for at least 6 different stores back then so that they were up to date, and people liked the OnRez viewer and the support and the online options, so when they packed up and moved on, everyone moved over to marketplace. You still find many stores that do not keep up with updating their items, and there are a lot of things that could be fixed there, but most of them are user based and customers inability to understand that leaving a bad review is not how to obtain customer service if something is wrong. Everything LL have done to Marketplace has been an improvement, again there are a few things that need sorting out, but they have announced plans on that recently, so yay. The buying and selling of lindens from outside of LL was just bad, while it was easier, faster and for some countries the only option, it was potentially rife with the ability to launder money, and LL shutting that down was probably what kept SL alive. A lot of things over the years that made dramatic changes were LAW not LL's doing, the Bank Crisis and I lost thousands because of that (my own fault) was due to the Casinos having to close, the Gacha stuff, the potential for people passing money to those that may do RL harm etc...all legal. Now LL looking to find a way to make the relationship between customer and seller more streamlined with one system is not a bad thing...E2v closed, Hippo closed, others that started one purchase have gone subscription or percentage etc, because things are not free, this is business, you want a product to make your business better, then it is a business expense, just as land is, just as upload fees and so on are. Do I want to pay for each sale, not really, but I pay tier for my store and I pay a percentage on MP, so really would it make any difference, in RL you have to pay for electricity, rent, water, rates, promotion etc and on top of all that what you sell is one for one unlike SL and and everything being unlimited. But you have a choice, you have the option to just use the built in tools that LL already provides, set to buy and you are done, keep records of your transactions by saving them to a document of some kind every month and then if a customer does need a redelivery you can look it up, because honestly how often do you have to actually do that, if you sell your items in packages most customers have the pack in their inventory to unpack again anyway. It is mostly content that updates that ever needs to be delivered again, or if someone has been away for a long time etc. You have choices, LL have just given us another one, and that they have made improvements in leaps and bounds in the past 6+ years more so than any other time in SL history is something that most are very grateful for.

Firstly Congratulations to both Casper and Linden Lab. While Casper has other business does this mean that Casper Warden will now be Casper Linden ? because that is the only part of this whole thing that would make sense on the upcoming features etc. Much easier for Casper to do the work but have the resources of LL behind them. Hippo and E2V have closed in the past, this caused all sorts of issues, I personally am glad this has happened, and I do not have the casper system at the moment, because I have not been producing content for a long time. I have gifted the system though, so it was on my radar as a good product. For the oldbies that remember, back in the day there were actual vendors in world for OnRez and SLX and I am hopeful that that will be the case again, that listing via our inventory like we do now would somehow be linked to a vendor in world as well making everything one thing, because honestly the amount of double and sometimes even triple record keeping in SL by both the Lab and content creators is excessive, this should streamline all of that. I look forward to the changes, and maybe this will have LL look into my comments in the past about a 'commercial premium' account so that proper division of needs is possible to choose from. Whatever happens Business Partner/Manager options are a must, without them many stores could not function. EDIT: Just went and bought the system, I do so like to put my money where my mouth is. I also forgot I had purchased it for an alt but did not end up needing it, and have received a fully detailed email regarding the buyout etc.

I went the pool route and it is handy if you can get yourself a good property, we have an amazing one...however that is me and my partner and alts, pooling with friends means you do not gain anything other than your 1024, anything you rez counts, no free build and landscape not counting against prim allowance. It is another choice, it is just not the wisest of choices and the lindens already have your money because you would not have 1024 without having paid them, you still log in, you still buy items from other creators, this all goes to LL in some form or another. You also left out the word 'me' when you said from this premium thing, because you could not have meant you were going to stop all residents from doing what works for them. I forgot to add we got our property on one of the Zindra regions because it was cleaned up and is very quiet if you can get the right spot.